6+ years old, had it up to here - need help.

[Rachael x]

I would just like to add that Poppy fake pee's too.
And I know she does because I've seen her do it lots of times.
I actually think she is doing it for a treat, because I am training her to go outside she gets a treat when she potty's outside.
So a few times she has squated and fake peed then ran up to me and waited for a treat... I go over to the place were she squated and it's bone dry.
So now I make sure I check before she gets a treat and she dosn't do it as much.

[ladyjane]

We all have different opinions on things and you are not ruffling my feathers at all.

But, that being said, I have a submissive pup as well and know that I did not cause it. This person has clearly admitted to some pretty agregious behaviors with this pup. Seems he just keeps piling on the button pushing themes...and none of you are catching on. That's fine, but to ignore some of his remarks is not something I can cater to.

This has nothing to do with you or your pups. I don't even see how you could think that. You have never posted that you do the things to your pups that he says he has done.

I agree, and will not suggest again that he should surrender this pup, because it is not his pup to do so with anyway! I will simply say that I have seen these things more times than I can count, and I know how they end up. I hope you all are able to perform a miracle; but given that he is some super secret government person who cannot even give the name of his dog for fear of exposure, I guess none of us will really know for sure. We will just have to take the word of this person.

My thumbs up were basically to Deuce's comments about his last "book" where he continued to carry on. I felt that they were right on target. This man is really not very funny at all. And, again, I am having some real reservations about his sincerety. But..I would not worry too much if I were you, as his last PM to me said he was going to put me on ignore.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Rachael x

I would just like to add that Poppy fake pee's too.
And I know she does because I've seen her do it lots of times.
I actually think she is doing it for a treat, because I am training her to go outside she gets a treat when she potty's outside.
So a few times she has squated and fake peed then ran up to me and waited for a treat... I go over to the place were she squated and it's bone dry.
So now I make sure I check before she gets a treat and she dosn't do it as much.

Oh, now that I can see! I just don't think that they would fake it so that they could go back to the house and be vindictive and eliminate where they were SURE to be smacked or otherwise "disciplined".

[celstu1]

Sometimes I am too naive or innocent for my own good... but I always try to be hopeful for someone else.

Luvsdogs2 - Please take to heart that people here LOVE this breed, they are passionate about them and they want to see each and every dog in this world loved and treated right. We have (as a forum) seen and heard some HORRENDOUS things happen to dogs that would make a grown man cry like a baby. Ladyjane does work with dogs that sadly came from the worst of the worst. Her hopes and intentions for each dog is bigger than anyone Ive ever seen or heard. It physically hurts her (and emotionally and mentally) to hear of a dog being mistreated in any way. As it does for a lot of us.

If you are TRULY in need of help/advice for your dog, please stay and learn and let us know how this goes. If you are putting us on or making up stories, please GO. When I look my babies in the eye and I see all the love in the world shining there, I know there is no greater gift in my life. I know that it is ME who is blessed to have them and their unconditional love. Yorkies are a unique breed of dog. You need to give Bdog patience, love, time and more love. I could not stand to think that your beautiful girl, your loving, wonderful, sweet girl is not getting all the love that she so deserves, because she loves you, despite everything, she does.

[licricket]

Originally Posted by celstu1

Sometimes I am too naive or innocent for my own good... but I always try to be hopeful for someone else.

Luvsdogs2 - Please take to heart that people here LOVE this breed, they are passionate about them and they want to see each and every dog in this world loved and treated right. We have (as a forum) seen and heard some HORRENDOUS things happen to dogs that would make a grown man cry like a baby. Ladyjane does work with dogs that sadly came from the worst of the worst. Her hopes and intentions for each dog is bigger than anyone Ive ever seen or heard. It physically hurts her (and emotionally and mentally) to hear of a dog being mistreated in any way. As it does for a lot of us.

If you are TRULY in need of help/advice for your dog, please stay and learn and let us know how this goes. If you are putting us on or making up stories, please GO. When I look my babies in the eye and I see all the love in the world shining there, I know there is no greater gift in my life. I know that it is ME who is blessed to have them and their unconditional love. Yorkies are a unique breed of dog. You need to give Bdog patience, love, time and more love. I could not stand to think that your beautiful girl, your loving, wonderful, sweet girl is not getting all the love that she so deserves, because she loves you, despite everything, she does.

[roseylovestosho]

Originally Posted by licricket

I am not a Yorkie owner as of yet, (I am hoping to meet a potential breeder in the middle of December, she wants to meet me in person before she considers giving me one of her babies...and rightfully so!) but I've found a lot of people's comments on here extremely helpful in thinking about how to take care/train a yorkie. I do agree with the above comment that it seems as if everyone here is passionate about the breed, and from reading close to almost the ENTIRE thread, it does appear to me that the OP does not share this same compassion/care as all of the other owners here. The OP was full of frustration, and even anger, and a lot of comments were made about the fact that if Bdog continues the way she/he? is behaving then she/he? must go. Your OP went from blaming Bdog's behavior on the dog (even insinuating that Bdog is maliciously holding pee/poop to anger you) to now saying that you are only here asking for help and that you really want to train him etc, while at the same time mentioning all of these "obstacles" and "time constraints" you may have. While at the same time, trying to argue with members here for expressing their opinion and telling them to leave "your" thread. Ladyjane, I completely agree with you and think that the OP is not sincere, in fact it seems as if he is constantly changing his demeanor/respones depending on who is replying. Also, I found it interesting that the OP was quicker to reply (and at length) to comments that were directed at the OP's behavior (i.e. hitting the dog, lack of time, care attention, dismissing the fact the OP made clear mention of getting rid of the dog), but when members replied at LENGTH on steps the OP can take to help train and rectify the situation, not only would the OP forget to reply, but if he did, then it would be a short declaration of "great advice" or something similarly shallow.

While I am not answering any questions regarding how to help train Bdog, I do offer from a pretty objective standpoint (after sitting back and reading through this entire thread), that you find a rescue to give Bdog a chance of a happy home. If you cannot even deal with criticism on a forum about your behavior in a respectful way, (i.e. comparing ladyjane to a "bad dog") then I think it is quite clear that you have even less patience to deal with a small dog (I also understand that you have "raised dogs" for many years prior to this, but clearly previous experience is not helping you here. I have owned a dog before (he just passed away after 15 years), and I am here avidly reading/researching on how to take care of a yorkie and I do not PRESUME that my previous experience with a dog will lead me to be able to raise a Yorkie). And I understand that you've made mention of the fact that if you didn't care you wouldn't be posting here to begin with, but honestly it just seems to me like you just want to use this forum as an "I told you so" against your fiance rather than coming from you actually caring about Bdog.

[hartygirl]

Luvsdogs2,

There is a book I always recommend for dog training issues.
"The Loved Dog" by Tamar Geller.
I can always find it at Half Price Books, or it is at any of the major book retailers.
In no way am I an expert on dog behavior but I have had pups with issues and this book helped me more than any advise I ever received. I read Cesar Milan, took class, etc..... but this method of training always helped me.

I hope you have the time to read it, I know how busy school can make you and how crazy homework loads can be.

If you take the time to properly train your dog you will find that almost nothing in this life is more rewarding. He/she will be your constant companion and devoted best friend for life. Dogs are so pleasing and learning is like the most fun thing ever for them because it makes you happy. You have this great big chance to bring your whole family (future family) to a whole new level of closeness.

Best of luck to you. Maybe one day we can see a picture of this little rascal of yours, no?

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by hartygirl

Luvsdogs2,

There is a book I always recommend for dog training issues.
"The Loved Dog" by Tamar Geller.
I can always find it at Half Price Books, or it is at any of the major book retailers.
In no way am I an expert on dog behavior but I have had pups with issues and this book helped me more than any advise I ever received. I read Cesar Milan, took class, etc..... but this method of training always helped me.

I hope you have the time to read it, I know how busy school can make you and how crazy homework loads can be.

If you take the time to properly train your dog you will find that almost nothing in this life is more rewarding. He/she will be your constant companion and devoted best friend for life. Dogs are so pleasing and learning is like the most fun thing ever for them because it makes you happy. You have this great big chance to bring your whole family (future family) to a whole new level of closeness.

Best of luck to you. Maybe one day we can see a picture of this little rascal of yours, no?

Tamar Geller is an excellent reference!

[Rachael x]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Oh, now that I can see! I just don't think that they would fake it so that they could go back to the house and be vindictive and eliminate where they were SURE to be smacked or otherwise "disciplined".

Oh no I totally agree, dogs are not vindictive they just dont think that way.

[eddiesmom14]

I am so sorry for poor little Bdog. I get the sense that luvsdogs2 thinks he knows everything about everything. Many men in engineering do.

And if you are reading this luvsdogs2, yes, I am talking about and to, you.

You are anthropomorphizing your dog. If you think your dog is vindictive maybe you need to take a look at your own motivations. It's possible your real anger is at your fiancee and you are taking it out on the dog. Just because you have had a couple of well behaved ranch dogs doesn't make you an expert in dog training. Those kinds of dogs are a whole different breed, literally and figuratively.

Please, open your eyes and your heart and seek at least a little professional help. That is what you expect people to do with you when they don't have your expertise and training, isn't it? Isn't that why you are working on a degree? So people will come to you for expert advice?

Do the same for yourself and your future family. You will be amazed at the difference it can make. Now, you can put me on ignore, too.

[eddiesmom14]

Originally Posted by roseylovestosho

I am not a Yorkie owner as of yet, (I am hoping to meet a potential breeder in the middle of December, she wants to meet me in person before she considers giving me one of her babies...and rightfully so!) but I've found a lot of people's comments on here extremely helpful in thinking about how to take care/train a yorkie. I do agree with the above comment that it seems as if everyone here is passionate about the breed, and from reading close to almost the ENTIRE thread, it does appear to me that the OP does not share this same compassion/care as all of the other owners here. The OP was full of frustration, and even anger, and a lot of comments were made about the fact that if Bdog continues the way she/he? is behaving then she/he? must go. Your OP went from blaming Bdog's behavior on the dog (even insinuating that Bdog is maliciously holding pee/poop to anger you) to now saying that you are only here asking for help and that you really want to train him etc, while at the same time mentioning all of these "obstacles" and "time constraints" you may have. While at the same time, trying to argue with members here for expressing their opinion and telling them to leave "your" thread. Ladyjane, I completely agree with you and think that the OP is not sincere, in fact it seems as if he is constantly changing his demeanor/respones depending on who is replying. Also, I found it interesting that the OP was quicker to reply (and at length) to comments that were directed at the OP's behavior (i.e. hitting the dog, lack of time, care attention, dismissing the fact the OP made clear mention of getting rid of the dog), but when members replied at LENGTH on steps the OP can take to help train and rectify the situation, not only would the OP forget to reply, but if he did, then it would be a short declaration of "great advice" or something similarly shallow.

While I am not answering any questions regarding how to help train Bdog, I do offer from a pretty objective standpoint (after sitting back and reading through this entire thread), that you find a rescue to give Bdog a chance of a happy home. If you cannot even deal with criticism on a forum about your behavior in a respectful way, (i.e. comparing ladyjane to a "bad dog") then I think it is quite clear that you have even less patience to deal with a small dog (I also understand that you have "raised dogs" for many years prior to this, but clearly previous experience is not helping you here. I have owned a dog before (he just passed away after 15 years), and I am here avidly reading/researching on how to take care of a yorkie and I do not PRESUME that my previous experience with a dog will lead me to be able to raise a Yorkie). And I understand that you've made mention of the fact that if you didn't care you wouldn't be posting here to begin with, but honestly it just seems to me like you just want to use this forum as an "I told you so" against your fiance rather than coming from you actually caring about Bdog.

Boy, I think you hit the nail on the head. Plus, he gets to sense the aggravation in a few more women. If we quit feeding in he will probably go away, if he hasn't already. It's sad, but I don't think anything we say is going to affect his behavior anyway. That's not what he's here for.

[MaddiesMommie]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Oh, now that I can see! I just don't think that they would fake it so that they could go back to the house and be vindictive and eliminate where they were SURE to be smacked or otherwise "disciplined".

Exactly!
Maddie did that sorta stuff when she was a puppy. She knew what I wanted when I said 'get busy'. She also figured out that getting busy led to lots of praise and something tasty. She figured out pretty quick this celebration didn't happen when she got busy inside.

IMO, dogs are not spiteful creatures, they do not punish, or try to pay us back for anything.

My girls are driven on receiving love and positive attention. When I got Cooper, she had came to me from owners that were too busy to "deal" with her and neglected to meet her needs, and abused her.
It took months and months of me working to earn her trust. Until that happend, I knew it was unrealistic for me to ask her to do anything for me. She had to learn what behaviors brought what consequences.

IMO, if the owner is not willing to develop the relationship needed for the best life possible for the animal, then it should be rehomed. It breaks my heart to think if Cooper had stayed in her previous situation.

[MaddiesMommie]

I just had to ask, why do you think giving the dog's name would reveal identity, hmmm?

[salazark]

I've been following this thread but finally felt compelled to post. I've lived my entire life with engineers. My dad was one. So was my first husband and both of my children. I work with engineers every day. You are usually intelligent logical thinkers. Please, read Tamar Geller's book. It is a fabulous book and I believe that it will help you understand training with kindness. Let it sink in and if you are as intelligent as most engineers I know your outlook on training will be forever changed. It might even help you be a better parent down the road. The principles are the same.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by roseylovestosho

I am not a Yorkie owner as of yet, (I am hoping to meet a potential breeder in the middle of December, she wants to meet me in person before she considers giving me one of her babies...and rightfully so!) but I've found a lot of people's comments on here extremely helpful in thinking about how to take care/train a yorkie. I do agree with the above comment that it seems as if everyone here is passionate about the breed, and from reading close to almost the ENTIRE thread, it does appear to me that the OP does not share this same compassion/care as all of the other owners here. The OP was full of frustration, and even anger, and a lot of comments were made about the fact that if Bdog continues the way she/he? is behaving then she/he? must go. Your OP went from blaming Bdog's behavior on the dog (even insinuating that Bdog is maliciously holding pee/poop to anger you) to now saying that you are only here asking for help and that you really want to train him etc, while at the same time mentioning all of these "obstacles" and "time constraints" you may have. While at the same time, trying to argue with members here for expressing their opinion and telling them to leave "your" thread. Ladyjane, I completely agree with you and think that the OP is not sincere, in fact it seems as if he is constantly changing his demeanor/respones depending on who is replying. Also, I found it interesting that the OP was quicker to reply (and at length) to comments that were directed at the OP's behavior (i.e. hitting the dog, lack of time, care attention, dismissing the fact the OP made clear mention of getting rid of the dog), but when members replied at LENGTH on steps the OP can take to help train and rectify the situation, not only would the OP forget to reply, but if he did, then it would be a short declaration of "great advice" or something similarly shallow.

While I am not answering any questions regarding how to help train Bdog, I do offer from a pretty objective standpoint (after sitting back and reading through this entire thread), that you find a rescue to give Bdog a chance of a happy home. If you cannot even deal with criticism on a forum about your behavior in a respectful way, (i.e. comparing ladyjane to a "bad dog") then I think it is quite clear that you have even less patience to deal with a small dog (I also understand that you have "raised dogs" for many years prior to this, but clearly previous experience is not helping you here. I have owned a dog before (he just passed away after 15 years), and I am here avidly reading/researching on how to take care of a yorkie and I do not PRESUME that my previous experience with a dog will lead me to be able to raise a Yorkie). And I understand that you've made mention of the fact that if you didn't care you wouldn't be posting here to begin with, but honestly it just seems to me like you just want to use this forum as an "I told you so" against your fiance rather than coming from you actually caring about Bdog.

Welcome to YT! Will look forward to seeing more of you and hearing about your baby when you get him/her! I commend you for taking the time to research before buying!