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08-26-2010, 07:31 PM | #1 |
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| Biting ~ over it! I know I'm not the only one to post here on biting, but I'm getting fed up with Piper's out of control biting. She has launched at my husband and I's faces and got us on the inside of the nose twice now. She gets most hyper with him and I think it might be because she is with me all day. She will still bite me throughout the day and once we are home but when she gets home and spends time with him, the entire time consists of my husband telling her "NO BITES! NO BITES! NO BITES!" It's really annoying. It's not just when he walks in the door or anything...its constant. She has TONS of toys to chew on and I rotate them so she doesn't get sick of them. We're trying to put her in her crate each time she bites now, but it's just exhausting. She really is a good girl, but this biting is obnoxious. We also give her a toy when she bites too so she knows to bite that instead. It still happens a lot though. HELP! |
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08-26-2010, 09:05 PM | #2 |
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| Her crate should NOT be used as punishment. How old is she and is she acting aggressive? You need to put her on the floor and ignore her behaviors. She should be enrolled in a puppy class as well. You need to get this under control immediately. How old was she when you brought her home? What was her socialization like with the breeder? There could be many issue involved in your biting problems. Btu first and foremost, crating her for biting will not work and will only make your problems more sever.
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08-26-2010, 09:56 PM | #3 |
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| Is this aggressive biting or just exhuberant playing that ends up with the teeth being involved?
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08-27-2010, 04:30 AM | #4 |
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| I amy get roasted.... but here goes :-) How old is Piper? If she is still a pup, then the biting is a play/exploratory activity and is expected with pups. All of my pups "teeth" on my fingers, they are allowed to nibble on hands and toes, when they get too rough, I simply move my hands or put shoes on. Sadly enough, they outgrow this silly puppyhood state and become adults who only mouth me when we are playing. None of my adults are "ankle biters" except during play time when it is perfectly acceptable and they control the "bite". You mention that you are home all day with Piper - how much time do you spend one on one with her playing games that SHE initiates and enjoys? |
08-27-2010, 04:42 AM | #5 |
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| I suggest having a laundry basket handy and when she bites, IMMEDIATELY flip the basket on top of her and turn your back away from her and ignore her. Do this EVERY time. Leave her there for a minute and then go back to playing. If she bites right away, put her right back under there. She will quickly associate biting with a swift end to play time and no interaction. You have to ignore her entirely or she will think this is part of a game. The key here is consistency. If she thinks its ok sometimes and not others, she'll only get confused and not understand the reason you are giving her the time-out. Don't give up!! Right now you might feel hopeless about this situation, but with a little dedication and lots of consistency, you will get results. Remember she is a puppy and this will take time just like any other training.
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08-27-2010, 04:43 AM | #6 |
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| That was the point of my question. If she is play biting, this will pass. When puppies play, they play with their mouths....they don't know about hurting. If that is it, I suggest you simply say "ouch" in a loud tone. That usually gets their attention....and they stop. Do this every time they bite. I have seen other people use that "no bite" thing with no success. They don't understand. If you watch two dogs play together, when one gets a bit rough the other yelps, and it stops! I personally would not give a time out for play biting. They just need to realize what is too rough! That is easily taught with the "ouch" method imo. Not sure why you stick your faces in hers to begin with? I would stop that immediately. And especially if this is aggressive behavior? I have trained fear biters using crate "time outs" but that is to show them that they cannot stay with the family if they misbehave. If done consistently, they often "get it".
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08-27-2010, 04:49 AM | #7 |
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| I'm not sure how old your puppy is or how old when you got her. We never had this problem, but I was wondering do you crate her any other time? If so, I would NEVER use the crate for punishment or they will not enjoy it or think of it as a good thing! I would suggest taking her for training!
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08-27-2010, 04:59 AM | #8 | |
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I don't believe in "punishment" anyway. Anything I do in terms of training is positive reinforcement. Letting a pup know his behavior is inappropriate is key....hitting or yelling imo is punishment. Redirecting is not....it is really just discipline. For a puppy who is playing...I would not do that. Puppies just need to learn how to play without hurting with their teeth.
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08-27-2010, 05:04 AM | #9 | |
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I'm not sure how we would have handled a biting problem if we had one, we were really lucky in that regard, but since we crate at night I don't think it would have been the way we would have gone! Funny how he would send himself to a time-out! Smart little guy!
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08-27-2010, 05:08 AM | #10 | |
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Dogs do not understand human language, you need to speak to them in their language. Start by using a low growl, if she doesn't respond to that then snap at her with a quick pinch to the neck and making a snapping sound like her mother would. Time outs make no sense to dogs. By the time you put them in the crate they have no clue why you are doing. The correction has to be instantanious. | |
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My alpha dog here will use that growl if they fight. She will stand right over them and give a low growl. When they are playing, no. She does pretty much what I said...yelps! As for time outs, I totally disagree with you. You pick them up immediately and put them in a crate or another room. They quickly understand that they cannot stay in the room everyone else is in if they are not behaving appropriately. We are not wolves..and I don't buy into acting like one. Just my two cents.
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08-27-2010, 05:17 AM | #13 |
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| And, I might add, when you put them up in a crate or another room, use a command as you are going there. I have two girls who would once in a while get into some tiffs. I snagged each one and say in a loud tone "time out" and put them in separate rooms for about 5 minutes. They DO come out with a different attitude most of the time...if they go back to fighting, I do it again...immediately. Most days they get along really well now...this has been a work in progress with them. That is also important...use a command when you put them in time out...with Matty I always said "kennel up". He learned...and it got to where all I had to do was say the words and he went to the crate...or later to the bathroom.
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