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Old 10-20-2009, 01:49 PM   #16
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You can make a lid for the playpen with a fitted sheet
Thanks for that tip! I actually did that already, and guess what! HE learned to rip the sheet and climb out! I know its crazy i couldn't believe it myself. This dog is way to smart. I cut the sheet and used zip ties to tie it to the pen and it worked for 2 days until he realized he could just put his paws on it and rip it. I even cut his nails and de-sharpened them and he still got out.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:50 PM   #17
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How old are you and how many dogs have you had?

I am guessing this is just a joke...no one would come on here and say and do these things to a newborn baby.

and if I am wrong...

You need help...
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If your dog was 7 weeks on July 23rd when you posted about him, he would be a little over 5 months now. Not that that matters if everything you are saying is true.

Somehow I smell troll here, for the sake of the puppy, real or not, thats what I hope this is
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How old are you and how many dogs have you had?

I am guessing this is just a joke...no one would come on here and say and do these things to a newborn baby.

and if I am wrong...

You need help...
Exactly. I hope this is a prank.

In case it isn't - As to how you're committing animal cruelty, you are leaving a puppy confined to a cage, living in his own excrement, and saying you are going to leave him in there even longer to teach him a lesson. What in the world would you call it?
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If your dog was 7 weeks on July 23rd when you posted about him, he would be a little over 5 months now. Not that that matters if everything you are saying is true.

Somehow I smell troll here, for the sake of the puppy, real or not, thats what I hope this is
I sure hope you're right. I hope there's not a poor puppy out there living with this person. Who is the world posts something like this? They must be very bored as well as bent. I sure as heck don't have the time to sit around thinking these crazy things up just to get people riled.
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So, let me get this straight...you keep him in a crate, punish him by making him stay in his own waste and muzzle him at 3 months of age? Wow...you don't have the patience to own a dog.

If you can't deal with this puppy correctly you should admit defeat and rehome the poor thing so he can have a better life with someone who knows what they are doing.

However, if you want to try and to things right you're going to have to start over. Purchase a puppy playpen that has a top so he can't escape, get some puppy pads and train him to stay in the playpen and use the pads, keep his food, water, bed and a few toys in the playpen with him on one side and the pad on the other. Leave him in the playpen while you are gone or sleeping...when you are home take him outside to potty often...at 3 months his little bladder can't hold it for more than about 3 hours...rule of thumb is 1 hour for each month of age. Once you have him out and he potties you can play for a while and give him a treat, then it's right back in the playpen. Never take him out when he cries (unless there is something wrong or he is hurt) or you will reinforce that behavior...he cries and you pick him up. Continue doing this and stretching the time out of the pen longer as he ages...after a little time and some hard work on your part he should be trained. Also, have him neutered before he starts to lift his leg and that should help with his training too.

If you don't have the time, funds and patience to do this with and for your little puppy then I would have to recommend you rehome him to someone who does.

Training a dog is like raising a child...you can't react to something they do...you have to take a step back and act on it. You are reacting by leaving him in a soiled crate to teach him a lesson but it's not working...you should be upset with yourself for leaving him in his crate so long that he had the accident and you need to decide what you are going to do to change things so he doesn't have accidents in his crate again. Help him learn through love and compassion...not anger or spite. He doesn't know what you expect out of him until you train him to do something properly and praise him for it.

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How old are you and how many dogs have you had?

I am guessing this is just a joke...no one would come on here and say and do these things to a newborn baby.

and if I am wrong...

You need help...
Are you serious, again you people only seem to think about the dog and no one else. Do you not understand the situation. I came here looking for help not looking to give up my dog. This is my first dog, and again i live alone. Again there is no law stating a single person cant own a dog so quit saying im cruel for leaving him in the crate, that's exactly what you guys say to do to pottie train. I swear some people contradict themselves to much on here. You people are really anooying me (excluding the nice ones trying to help me fix the situation). Get a life. Don't come on here bashing someone else because they cant afford to stay home all day long with there little puppy. Not everyone can afford to be an at home MOM/DAD. Give me a break. Everyone has a job, and some go to school. It's apart of life.

I came here for help, I will not give up my dog and if no one on here is going to be nice enought to help me vs bash me then i wont come back for help again, and then you can blame your self for not helping me help him.
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I got him when he was 7 weeks old. The owner wanted to get rid of them as soon as possible and i didn't want him so early but told me if i didn't take him she would give him to someone else. (I didn't pay for him, the lady isn't a breeder either just accidental puppies)



How do you know he's not doing it out of spite! Prove me wrong show me proof. Untill you do know one really knows. Go find a journal article that someone did proving dogs cant do things out of spite, if none exists to create that study and come back to me. Just because you belive its not true doesnt make it true. People belive in god, that doesnt mean its true.

Because ALL dog experts tell you that dogs do not act out of spite. go and research it.

Does a 3 month old baby wet his pants for spite????????? Do you think he does it out of spite knowing what your reaction will be??????????????


Yes i know letting him sleep in his waste is bad but i have no choice. Today i showered him, crated him. Left for food came back and he soiled him self. I then showered him, put him back in the crate and he pee'd again all over himself. I'm not going to clean up after him over and over.

As for getting a smaller crate, this crate is definitly the smallest he can fit. He has little room, He can walk in it a little and lay completly down. I didn't want him to not be able to move around.

Again about the spite, Untill someone finds a psychologist/researcher who prooved dog's don't do things out of spite please dont tell me otherwise.

He used to get 15+ hours of freedom a day, but once he learned to climb his playpen he's lost that since he gets out and pee's everwhere. I don't know why they make play pens with wholes in it that dogs and use as a latter, makes no sense. I need one with a lid. I wish i knew yorkies were this smart i would have gotten one with a lid to begin with.
Get a 3 foot x pen so there is room for both his bed and a pee pad.

and stop puinishing him for something that he has no clue about.

You are litterally scaring the poop out of him. That is why he dos it when you THROW him into his crate.

And to be honest I think you have done so much damage already that he will never stop being frightened of you. So it is best if you find him a new home.
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Yea Right....it would appear you have come on here and started bashing kind members who have tried to help you.

If in fact you have a dog (which I doubt) then not to worry it will be dead soon...I bet you also feed it table scraps.
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How is this animal cruelty. The doctor specifically said not to wash him more than once a week, well doing it twice a day would seriously make him SICK!

dIf you provide a proper place for him you will not have to wash him every time he poops.


I Created that title to get people to look at my post, he's not the worst dog ever I love him alot and its just his potting that;s a problem.

If this is how you love a dog, heaven help us all

Um are you kidding me! He sleeps for 9 hours in the crate and then comes out, then I have to put him back in the crate while im at school. I have no choice I'm not letting him run around peeing on everything. He had his playpen but he escapes every time.

You have choices, HE does not.

As for rehoming him i dont think so. Is a single person who lives alone not allowed to have a pet! Who determined this law, you? Seriously though, its not like its going to be forever once he's trained he'll gain his freedem.
Just because you are single and live alone does not give you the right to be cruel to this baby. Try thinking of something besides your selfish little self.
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As for crating him i literally just started doing this, he always had his play pen, its not like i started crating him from the beginning and forced this on him. As for soiling him self, what do you want me to do wash him every time he does it?? How many times do you think i could wash him before something else serious happens to him. Again you people keep contradicting what you say. First you say wash him 1-2 times a week as most and im telling you i washed him 3 times in the last 48hours and now i'll be washing him again today for a 4th time in 48hours. If washing him over and over doesnt hurt him then ill rewash him everytime.

LOL! You need to re-read your first post, because you are contradicting yourself, maybe get with yourself and get you'alls story straight....


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Are you in Davis California??? What school are you in? What courses are you taking? Put a picture of the dog up and the crate...
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LOL! You need to re-read your first post, because you are contradicting yourself, maybe get with yourself and get you'alls story straight....


ps: my last post in this thread, not worth bantering just so you can get enjoyment and tick people off
Oh come on and play...
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Are you serious, again you people only seem to think about the dog and no one else.

Ya, that is what we do, we speak for the dog, who cannot speak for himself..


Do you not understand the situation. I came here looking for help not looking to give up my dog. This is my first dog, and again i live alone. Again there is no law stating a single person cant own a dog so quit saying im cruel for leaving him in the crate, that's exactly what you guys say to do to pottie train. I swear some people contradict themselves to much on here. You people are really anooying me

Well your actions are making me ill.


(excluding the nice ones trying to help me fix the situation). Get a life. Don't come on here bashing someone else because they cant afford to stay home all day long with there little puppy. Not everyone can afford to be an at home MOM/DAD. Give me a break. Everyone has a job, and some go to school. It's apart of life.

Don't come on here telling us how you abuse your dog and expect sympathy. You have choices. he dog has none. he did not choose you, you chose him. do you really think he would have chosen you
I came here for help, I will not give up my dog and if no one on here is going to be nice enought to help me vs bash me then i wont come back for help again, and then you can blame your self for not helping me help him.
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It's not bashing...the truth is...leaving him in his own waste is beyond CRUEL!! Sorry, but that is the bold truth and I'm so sure it hurts.

What do you think it is doing to him, he feels your frustration. He is reacting to your actions. How much exercise is he getting during the day? He will definately need taken out at least once during the night. He sounds like a high energy guy and will need alot of daily activity, he is bored to death.

You stated 9 hrs for you to sleep, school & work? Where does he fit in your life or schedule for that matter? I understand you wanting to keep him, but he has to have a place and time in your life. They don't just become good dogs, they need worked with. I know it's hard for you and very nerve wracking, but you have to stop and take a look at the whole picture here.
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