Victoria Stilwell love thread

[Soccer50]

Originally Posted by kalina82

i like watching Victoria's show as well. I think its because she's English and her ways of dealing with people are different. Its funny. But what she does really works.

i did catch a new show the other night with some guy (i guess that's the brad that was mentioned before) and i didn't like him at all.

Oh I think you saw Dog Whisperer?
Maybe. If so i hate his way of handeling things.

[chloesMama]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

I think what the two trainers both have in common is that you have to train the owners as well as the dogs. Most of the time the dogs have the owners trained, that's why they are having the problem.

Has anyone seen the episode of South Park where they get Cesar to train Cartman? Pretty much sums it all up.

LOVED that episode ! I know I shouldn't, but I DOOOO

I like watching both Cesar and Victoria. I just wish training my dogs would have been as easy as they make it look ! I think they may have Dr. Doolittle powers and we just don't know it I think its amazing the way animals respond to them.

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by Soccer50

Oh I think you saw Dog Whisperer?
Maybe. If so i hate his way of handeling things.

no it wasn't the dog whisperer. i know that show and watch it sometimes. this was a show i never saw before.

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by RoxyLuv

Well, I've seen Victoria really get into people's faces when they get uncooperative & negative with her. Granted the people had it coming, but I have seen it myself. However, the people end up changing their attitudes & become cooperative. Sometimes that's the only way to get through to some people. It's not her approach with the dogs.

Static mat is electrical with settings. Victoria jumped when she touched it, said it hurt & mat was set on low. Of course she insisted it no longer be used.

Well i was not worried that she was in the face of a human. May owners need you to scold them but I try never to do that either.
My comment is that she never scold a dog.
As for the static mat I am with her on the use or not using it.

JL

[Britster]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

Well i was not worried that she was in the face of a human. May owners need you to scold them but I try never to do that either.
My comment is that she never scold a dog.
As for the static mat I am with her on the use or not using it.

JL

This amuses me that you think it's perfectly acceptable to get in the face of a human but not a dog. The reason Victoria annoys me is how much of a bitch she is to people. It just irks me. Yes, owners are stupid a lot of times and need to learn certain things... however, a lot of people are simply un-educated. I would not be a happy person if a trainer began to get in my face and yell at me about the way I'm raising my dog. That hits a hard spot, just as if someone were in my face criticizing me about the way I raise my kids. There's a NICE way to explain it to people and educate people on dog ownership. I've noticed though that with her American clients, she is definitely nicer than to her British clients. On another note, I also don't really agree with static mats but I think it would all depend on the situation and the size of the dog.

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by Britster

This amuses me that you think it's perfectly acceptable to get in the face of a human but not a dog. The reason Victoria annoys me is how much of a bitch she is to people. It just irks me. Yes, owners are stupid a lot of times and need to learn certain things... however, a lot of people are simply un-educated. I would not be a happy person if a trainer began to get in my face and yell at me about the way I'm raising my dog. That hits a hard spot, just as if someone were in my face criticizing me about the way I raise my kids. There's a NICE way to explain it to people and educate people on dog ownership. I've noticed though that with her American clients, she is definitely nicer than to her British clients. On another note, I also don't really agree with static mats but I think it would all depend on the situation and the size of the dog.

It is what the Telvesion watching public wants. She pulled that on me I have to dress her down but those that watch want to see the sparks.
The humans can talk back if ceasers dogs try to talk back they are dominating him and therefore must be punished.
Ceasers not nice to the humans either.

JL

[Britster]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

Ceasers not nice to the humans either.

JL

Lol. Give me an example of when he has not been nice to the humans?
Because every episode I've seen he's never gotten in anyone's face, ever.
If they have children or babies, he's usually seen holding the newborn baby
loving on it or saying how nice the kids are. He hugs every single person on
the show usually. He's made a lot of kids dreams come true. I remember one episode
in particular from the Make-A-Wish foundation and she wanted to be "Dog Whisperer"
and he brought her to his center, his very first TV episode with Nunu, the owner of Nunu
now has a job at the dog psychology center. I've never seen anywhere with him being
mean to a human, so if you could lead me to a video clip, that'd be great.

[Britster]

I just wanted to apologize for even responding to YorkieMother. I didn't even know what thread I was in....

This is a VICTORIA STILLWELL love thread. WHY did you even just bring up Cesar's name?

[mscat]

I am a Victoria fan. Her methods are positive , and I believe her experience and knowledge of dog training is refreshing . She teaches dog owners propper training stratigies , and then follows up with them. SOmetimes, the owners do become defensive , and it is the husbands that I have seen who have become like that towards Victoria. Victoria, stands her ground, and just tells it like it is, they called her to help , then give her attitude, sometimes the husband and wife are having dog disagreements allready, long before Victoria even showed up.
I saw one eposoide where they had I believe 5 pugs , and they all ate each others poop . It was so gross, and the husband was very rude towards Victoria, she even walked out. That had to of been one of the most intense shows on It's Me or the dog.
I did miss the first summer show

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by mscat

I am a Victoria fan. Her methods are positive , and I believe her experience and knowledge of dog training is refreshing . She teaches dog owners propper training stratigies , and then follows up with them. SOmetimes, the owners do become defensive , and it is the husbands that I have seen who have become like that towards Victoria. Victoria, stands her ground, and just tells it like it is, they called her to help , then give her attitude, sometimes the husband and wife are having dog disagreements allready, long before Victoria even showed up.
I saw one eposoide where they had I believe 5 pugs , and they all ate each others poop . It was so gross, and the husband was very rude towards Victoria, she even walked out. That had to of been one of the most intense shows on It's Me or the dog.
I did miss the first summer show

Yes this episode def stands out in my memory. That husband was acting like just a jerk, to put it mildly! he refused to feed one dog b/c he said that wasn't HIS dog, b/c his wife took that dog in as a rescue or foster or something and didn't ask his permission, so HE IGNORES IT AND DOESN'T FEED HIM! he even went as far as saying to Victoria something like "Look at you standing there with your hands on your hips telling me what to do" Uhh, that's why she's there, b/c you can't deal with your problems with your wife and now you're taking it out on the dogs! Oooh that guy made me so mad, I wanted to reach in the tv and rip out his eyeballs.

i like watching Victoria get in people's faces and having it actually be effective. I have a hard time holding my temper and when I get upset my words don't come out right and everything just turns into a big yellfest.

[QuickSilver]

I can see why some find VS bitchy, because, well, she IS bitchy (isn't that an alternate spelling for "British"? jk!). One of my favorite episodes is "It's Me or the Fat Dog". She starts off the show by saying that she is disgusted by both underweight and overweight dogs. I know it's not good for pets to be overweight, but hey, if they are fat, at least they are comfortable. Neither are good, but it's one of her typical over the top statements. Or once, when she showed an owner how much her dog disliked being brushed by making the owner get on all fours and pretending to use a street sweeper on her. I just think it's funny. She reminds me of Mary Poppins (the proper, literary one, who was constantly yelling at her charges). And then she gets all lovey dovey with the dogs.

[mscat]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

I can see why some find VS bitchy, because, well, she IS bitchy (isn't that an alternate spelling for "British"? jk!). One of my favorite episodes is "It's Me or the Fat Dog". She starts off the show by saying that she is disgusted by both underweight and overweight dogs. I know it's not good for pets to be overweight, but hey, if they are fat, at least they are comfortable. Neither are good, but it's one of her typical over the top statements. Or once, when she showed an owner how much her dog disliked being brushed by making the owner get on all fours and pretending to use a street sweeper on her. I just think it's funny. She reminds me of Mary Poppins (the proper, literary one, who was constantly yelling at her charges). And then she gets all lovey dovey with the dogs.

I know, she is quite something It is the attitude that is so entertaining ! Some of the shows where the owners actually cooking gourmet meals for their dogs and eating frozen meals for themselves > Those dogs were not fat, but it was sad that the family was sacrifcing so much for their dogs .
Other owners gave hot chocolate each night to their dogs before bed.

[QuickSilver]

Ha, yeah, I remember those! Or that woman who had five hyperactive, disobedient dogs. It turned out they got ice cream every day! They would go nuts when they heard the ice cream truck because they knew they were each getting their own cone.

[Krystee]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

Yes, I think we meant that Victoria enjoys scolding people. It's part of her charm, it's so very English.

BTW, you can usually set your Tivo recordings so they get first run only.

That's weird that both Cesar and Victoria had an eppy on the static mat, one for, one against. I wonder if that was deliberate? It didn't seem to be working too well for Victoria's dogs (she threw it out).

Victoria does use more treats, though she did not in this episode. She used gentle negative reinforcement (removed dog from situation if he barked, stopped walking when he pulled on the leash), and body blocking. Oh, I guess she used some for the Wait command.

I also thought it was interesting that she decided not to teach the old dog new tricks!

I understood why she decided not to work with the old dog. My Rat Terrier will be 16 in September and there is NO way I could teach her new tricks. I swear she forgets what she is doing from one minute to the next. lol.
I am addicted to "It's me or the Dog" too! I've never seen "The Dog Whisperer" show but I really don't like that he would use one of those static mats.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

Ha, yeah, I remember those! Or that woman who had five hyperactive, disobedient dogs. It turned out they got ice cream every day! They would go nuts when they heard the ice cream truck because they knew they were each getting their own cone.

LOL thats what mine do!!!! Theyre not hyperactive though