What Is the Deal?! I NEED ADVICE

[emilyann]

Ok, I must have bragged way too much. Lilly has always been really good about using her potty pad . Usually TOO good. She would pee a little here and there ALWAYS ON THE PAD THOUGH every 10 minutes just so she could get a treat . She had it down pat. She'd look at me, then my bf, then she'd walk to the pad, squat, pee or force pee then look back at us waiting for a treat.

Great!

Until now. For the past several days she hasn't used her potty pad but ONCE . I have cleaned up so much pee I could scream. Then today! She pees on my flippin' couch! I was sooo upset. I told her "NO!" "BAD GIRL " and she was gated in the bathroom with the door shut for around a hour. Before when she would pee I would tell her "NO!" "BAD BAD GIRL!" and ignore her for about 5 minutes.

Bad thing about it is SHE KNEW she was doing wrong! She knew it! I know this because she would pee, smell it then see me getting up to scold her and she'd run upstairs to hide from me. I've even tried telling her no, bad girl and then setting her on her pee pad and patting on the pad and telling her "THIS IS A GOOD GIRL!!!!!"

I'm looking for any advice anyone can give me , it's getting out of hand and I've transferred way too many rags into pee rags over the past few days.

I feel like everything I've taught her as far as potty training has went out the window. It upsets me so much that she knows where she's supposed to potty but she isn't doing it.

[westieboy]

She does not know she was wrong. She does know that you were upset at something. The only time they will connect you getting angry and her having an accident is if you catch her midstream. Otherwise you are too late already. How long was she using the pads consistently? Maybe you relaxed in your training or gave her too much freedom the last week or so?

[Lady Amethyst]

I'm not sure that I can give you advice, but I surely will return to this thread to find out if there is anyone out there who has the answer!!! I just posted in another thread kinda about the same thing. My Neko was adopted, we got him at 5 years old. I can tell that he was potty trained, his paper work said so, but that he had accidents in the house 2-3 times a week. He sleeps and when we aren't playing with him, in his crate. We've had him for almost 2 months and still can't trust him to run over the house unattented! If you take him outside, he will go outside. If you don't, he will go where ever he walks!! He has days where he will jump on us and when we stand, he heads for the back door and jumps on it, once the door opens, off into the grass and he's doing his business! So I "KNOW" he "KNOWS" where he is supose to go. He's been doing that since we got him! Then he has his days where he will just stand in the floor and do it. (He always "coward" and won't move when you call him when he has done it in the house). I know he knows better, but what do I do??????? I feel sorry for him being in the crate day in and out, but our carpets are causing us to consider taking him back to the Humane Society!

[westieboy]

Originally Posted by Lady Amethyst

I'm not sure that I can give you advice, but I surely will return to this thread to find out if there is anyone out there who has the answer!!! I just posted in another thread kinda about the same thing. My Neko was adopted, we got him at 5 years old. I can tell that he was potty trained, his paper work said so, but that he had accidents in the house 2-3 times a week. He sleeps and when we aren't playing with him, in his crate. We've had him for almost 2 months and still can't trust him to run over the house unattented! If you take him outside, he will go outside. If you don't, he will go where ever he walks!! He has days where he will jump on us and when we stand, he heads for the back door and jumps on it, once the door opens, off into the grass and he's doing his business! So I "KNOW" he "KNOWS" where he is supose to go. He's been doing that since we got him! Then he has his days where he will just stand in the floor and do it. (He always "coward" and won't move when you call him when he has done it in the house). I know he knows better, but what do I do??????? I feel sorry for him being in the crate day in and out, but our carpets are causing us to consider taking him back to the Humane Society!

He's not really housetrained. He cowards because he senses that you are mad but doesn't know why. From your description, peeing outside and inside is the same to him. How have you gone about showing him outside is the right way. Have you cleaned all the accidents inside the house?

[emilyann]

Originally Posted by westieboy

She does not know she was wrong. She does know that you were upset at something. The only time they will connect you getting angry and her having an accident is if you catch her midstream. Otherwise you are too late already. How long was she using the pads consistently? Maybe you relaxed in your training or gave her too much freedom the last week or so?

That's another thing, I HAVE caught her midstream. She knows she's doing wrong otherwise she wouldn't run upstairs before I even tell her bad girl.

She'll be 2 in July and she's been consistently using the pads since she was around 7 months old. She would have an accident maybe like once in a month but that was it.

I haven't changed anything, everything has been going the same. Her pads stay in the same spot and when she peed on the floor the first time, I got onto her just like I would if she had peed on the carpet before.

[westieboy]

Originally Posted by emilyann

That's another thing, I HAVE caught her midstream. She knows she's doing wrong otherwise she wouldn't run upstairs before I even tell her bad girl.

She'll be 2 in July and she's been consistently using the pads since she was around 7 months old. She would have an accident maybe like once in a month but that was it.

I haven't changed anything, everything has been going the same. Her pads stay in the same spot and when she peed on the floor the first time, I got onto her just like I would if she had peed on the carpet before.

Is there anything medically wrong with her? Something like this that suddenly comes up could be medically related. Her accidents that happen once a month, did you clean all those spots?

[QuickSilver]

Is it possible she has a UTI?

I think something very subtle probably changed that might not occur to you right away. In any case, if it's not a physical problem, I would just go back to potty 101. Keep her crated for a few days, then give her access to one room, then two rooms, etc. It will probably go quickly since she knows the drill.

I agree with westieboy about what she "knows" is wrong. Strangely enough, a dog can know that pee on the floor upsets their owner, but not associate that with the act of peeing. I don't suggest you try this, but if YOU peed on the floor, she would probably run away from that as well.

[emilyann]

Originally Posted by westieboy

Is there anything medically wrong with her? Something like this that suddenly comes up could be medically related. Her accidents that happen once a month, did you clean all those spots?

I didn't think there was, she hasn't really had any signs of anything out of the ordinary besides her peeing where she pleases. Yes, I thoroughly clean every spot, it grosses me out so much.

[emilyann]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

Is it possible she has a UTI?

I think something very subtle probably changed that might not occur to you right away. In any case, if it's not a physical problem, I would just go back to potty 101. Keep her crated for a few days, then give her access to one room, then two rooms, etc. It will probably go quickly since she knows the drill.

I agree with westieboy about what she "knows" is wrong. Strangely enough, a dog can know that pee on the floor upsets their owner, but not associate that with the act of peeing. I don't suggest you try this, but if YOU peed on the floor, she would probably run away from that as well.

LOL, you're too funny!

I don't think she has a UTI though, I need to look up the symptoms. She doesn't pee all the time, it's just like when she has to go - she makes no priority to make it on the pad, she just pees wherever she's standing. She could be playing and then just pop a squat and piss then go back to playing.

She doesn't even try to go to a different room to pee. We can be watching TV and look over and she'll just pee right in front of us. Today, she peed right in front of my boyfriend's foot.

[Lady Amethyst]

Originally Posted by westieboy

He's not really housetrained. He cowards because he senses that you are mad but doesn't know why. From your description, peeing outside and inside is the same to him. How have you gone about showing him outside is the right way. Have you cleaned all the accidents inside the house?

When we catch him in the act, we continue to say "No-No Bad Doggie" and take him to the back door, showing him to jump on it (saying "Neko go potty outside...Potty outside Neko!) and then open the door and out into the grass..Saying over again "Potty Neko, Potty!"...Gently of course! No sooner than you get him outside though, he goes again! We praise him and give him a treat.

He will jump on us and then lead us to the door, jumping on it..Then outside in the grass to pee. Once he's done, he will jump on the door to go back inside. He will do this for about 3-4 days in a row and then you will see him just stand in the floor, pee and then coward! Not sure how much more crate training or misunderstanding I can take. And yes, we "ALWAYS" clean up "VERY" well behind an accident. He almost never goes in the same place he did before anyway. Or so soon he will have to start repeating!!

[Yorkie_Mama]

Originally Posted by Lady Amethyst

When we catch him in the act, we continue to say "No-No Bad Doggie" and take him to the back door, showing him to jump on it (saying "Neko go potty outside...Potty outside Neko!) and then open the door and out into the grass..Saying over again "Potty Neko, Potty!"...Gently of course! No sooner than you get him outside though, he goes again! We praise him and give him a treat.

He will jump on us and then lead us to the door, jumping on it..Then outside in the grass to pee. Once he's done, he will jump on the door to go back inside. He will do this for about 3-4 days in a row and then you will see him just stand in the floor, pee and then coward! Not sure how much more crate training or misunderstanding I can take. And yes, we "ALWAYS" clean up "VERY" well behind an accident. He almost never goes in the same place he did before anyway. Or so soon he will have to start repeating!!

You may have a male who was left intact for a while a easy solution is a wee wee pad alot of ppl make them on here as soon as there in the house place it on them .. my males hate it so much that they will hold it untill I take them outside and take it off

[Lady Amethyst]

Originally Posted by Yorkie_Mama

You may have a male who was left intact for a while a easy solution is a wee wee pad alot of ppl make them on here as soon as there in the house place it on them .. my males hate it so much that they will hold it untill I take them outside and take it off

LOL.....I would really be "greatful" if you could explain that a little more? Left Intact for awhile? Take them outside and take "it" off? I don't think you are talking about what I'm thinking, so before I make a fool of myself (LOL) I will just let you explain it alittle more for me...

[Yorkie_Mama]

Originally Posted by Lady Amethyst

LOL.....I would really be "greatful" if you could explain that a little more? Left Intact for awhile? Take them outside and take "it" off? I don't think you are talking about what I'm thinking, so before I make a fool of myself (LOL) I will just let you explain it alittle more for me...

oh sorry I should never post when im tired you adoped your yorkie correct but not as a puppie? he could of been used as a stud dog *intact* as in not fixed ... if this is the case a wee pad will help . If you live in an area where ppl around you have female dogs or a female dog walk by in heat .. he will still want to pee to mark his territory. A wee wee pad that wraps around his belly will keep him from marking your home and when you do let him outside make shure to take off the belly band and replace it before he gos inside. with a new liner after a while he will work to hold his pee untill you take his wee wee pad off .. I am sorry if i confused you .. I tend to confuse myself when im tired LMAO

[Lady Amethyst]

Originally Posted by Yorkie_Mama

oh sorry I should never post when im tired you adoped your yorkie correct but not as a puppie? he could of been used as a stud dog *intact* as in not fixed ... if this is the case a wee pad will help . If you live in an area where ppl around you have female dogs or a female dog walk by in heat .. he will still want to pee to mark his territory. A wee wee pad that wraps around his belly will keep him from marking your home and when you do let him outside make shure to take off the belly band and replace it before he gos inside. with a new liner after a while he will work to hold his pee untill you take his wee wee pad off .. I am sorry if i confused you .. I tend to confuse myself when im tired LMAO

Well, he was neutered when he was dropped off by his owner at the Humane Society...It was just done at 5 years old which was a few days before I adopted him. So, you could be right. However, there are only male doggies around me. (And neighbors doggies are kept inside most of the time). Never understood the "marking of the territory" deal anyway. He is the only dog and male dog around/in the house, too..I don't get it! Anyway, wrapping a pee pad around him, a? Hummm, how do I get it to stay? What if he bites at it and pulls it off..I bet he will just pee in the pad wrapped on him as he walks around the house anyway..lol..It would just act as a diaper to change daily. Wonder if him just being neutered has something to do with his weird behavior? (Peeing outside and then inside periodically with that little cowardly method of his?)

[QuickSilver]

If he was just neutered, that will definitely throw him off. I hate to tell you this, but it can take up to a year to fully potty train a yorkie. Please do not take him back just for potty problems. He just needs some patience.

yorkie_mama was describing what's called a "belly band". A number of YT members sell them. It fastens around the middle, and you put a panty liner inside, I believe. For many dogs, the sensation of having a wet belly is unpleasant enough that they will hold it when they are wearing one. On the other hand, some dogs may pee anyway.

I would definitely keep at the training before resorting to belly bands.