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Old 01-25-2009, 02:29 PM   #16
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My two never seem to be potty trained. Heard to give them the peanut chips you bake with, only for going outside to potty. I've been doing it for three months now and it's working great. Hope this works for yours.
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Sorry it should of said peanut butter chips.
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Old 01-25-2009, 03:04 PM   #18
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yes, i know, milu does both as well (goes on pad and outdoors as well)

what i was saying is that in order to have better success with the pad training, it is better to let him go only on the pad when you are in the process of pad training, otherwise you will confuse them. they won't associate it as going on the pad, they will just think that you mean going in the 'house' is ok as well as going outside of the house.

since thor already knows how to go potty outside the house. he will be ok and continue to do both (pad and outdoors) but for the purpose of training, it's a lot easier if you only allow him to go on the pad in the house until he gets the idea.

what i did with milu is that i would still walk her, but only after she already went to the bathroom on the pee pad, until she is fully pee pad trained. then you can walk thor whenever you want, and when you are not there, thor can just use the pee pad if he really needs to go.

another important thing is to have enough pee pads around the house. i have pee pads in three different areas in the house. that way where ever milu is at, she has access to a pad without having to travel really far for it.

she also has favorite spots for going #2, she tend to like to use the pad that is in the most private area. harder for anyone to see her going to the bathroom.
What you're saying makes sense. I guess I have a fear of letting Thor hold it until he just can't bear it anymore, like I'm forcing him to pee his pants! You know what I mean? Like if he thinks he's not supposed to pee inside, I don't want to push him to that point.

Before walks, I usually put him on the pad and tell him, "go potty." He usually stares at me for a while, wondering what the heck I'm talking about.

Thank you for your help!
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What you're saying makes sense. I guess I have a fear of letting Thor hold it until he just can't bear it anymore, like I'm forcing him to pee his pants! You know what I mean? Like if he thinks he's not supposed to pee inside, I don't want to push him to that point.

Before walks, I usually put him on the pad and tell him, "go potty." He usually stares at me for a while, wondering what the heck I'm talking about.

Thank you for your help!
i know what you mean about making him feel like he has to hold it forever. that's how i felt. but the truth is, they WILL GO! and that is your opportunity to show them where they are supposed to go!

so that's what i did with milu. as soon as she went potty on the pad, and if i knew that she doesn't need to go anymore, off we go for a walk!

there were a couple of times when milu just had accidents and i didn't see her in time to give her her pad training lesson. then i just cleaned it up and make sure i pay closer attention to her.

i think overall, it will take less time to pad train if you do it the way i am suggesting. but you are the mommy, and you know your baby best.

i am happy i did it that way with milu, because now she really understands what a pee pad is for. i can go anywhere with her, and know that all i need to do is bring a pee pad with me, and show her where it is, and she will not have an accident.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:30 PM   #20
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Could it be that they are just like young children and get so busy doing what ever that they wait till the last second to take off for outside and just don't make it?
I have said this myself a thousand times about my Lucy. She is 2.5 years old and a very busy dog. No time for potty, really. I have scheduled times I take her out, to remind her to go. Otherwise, she finds herself stuck at the last minute!
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Let's hear it for lucky number 3! That's 1, 2, THREE times Thor has used his pad! His average is now more than once per year! WHOOOOOO!

I'm still not quite sure what I'm trying to do here. I'm locked in the living room and am 98% sure he isn't marking my antique japanese chest. I have a bell, which Thor tolerates, but would rather die that ring himself. I praise him for outdoor pees and poos, and I think that message is getting through: I'm pretty sure he tried to fake-poop last night to get a treat. And I have a pee pad, which has now been used twice in one week.

I guess I'm waiting for Thor to give me a clear signal when he wants to go out (bell), or, failing that, going to a pad and leaving me out of the process. Either one is fine with me, as long as we get a system going.

All hail the timely pee of THOR!
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LMAO, we get fake pees and poos all the time in an attempt to get treats, thought thankfully that's starting to taper off finally. Unfortunately we were fooled at first, so now we have to carefully inspect the area (with a flashlight at night) to make sure it was a real pee. Sheesh, they're way too smart.

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Old 01-28-2009, 07:58 PM   #23
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LMAO, we get fake pees and poos all the time in an attempt to get treats, thought thankfully that's starting to taper off finally.
I really had a good laugh at this. Sounds like a page out of Lucy's book. She's a great faker. When I'm too lazy to go outside and see what's been done, we have "hoo ha" checks when she comes back inside- LOL! If it looks wet, she peed.

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Update: Thor peed on the pad today and received both lavish praise and yogurt. I got optimistic and let him out of the living room for approximately 30 seconds, which he used to pee in my bedroom. I did manage to catch him in the act and put him on the pee pad, though of course he acted like he'd never seen it before. Two steps forward, one step back, I guess.
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Nikko started sliding backward with potty training a little bit, probably because he'd use his bell to tell us he wanted to pee, play outside, go for a walk, AND play with the neighbor dog. So we started telling him "no" sometimes when he rang the bell and we knew he didn't have to pee... I think that backfired, because that was about the time we started finding pee spots on our carpet :-(

Anyways, we moved the bell over to a door that leads straight to the potty zone instead of our front door that we use for everything else. Hopefully that will work, and we are also giving peanut butter chips a try. He got his first one today and he LOVED it! The only little problem is that 5 minutes after giving him one, he turns into insano sugar rush dog... then 15-30 minutes later, passes out into a sugar coma, lol. I'm going to start eating half the chip myself, and giving him only a half when he pees/poos... hopefully that'll help. Thanks for the tip though! Hopefully this'll help him relearn the new door quicker.

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If it's any consolation, Nikko is still way ahead of Thor. Thor has yet to ring the bell, period.

HOWEVER, he did use the pee pad again today, and for exactly the reason I got it - he was racing around like he was on fire, and in the middle of his fun, he made a pee stop. Whoo hoo! I think he's actually used the pad three days in a row. If he really takes to the pad, I might get rid of the bell, since that seems to only be the start of the journey for Nikko!
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LOL, how old is Thor anyways? Goodness he's cute.

Don't give up on the bell! Even with all our little problems with it, I still think it's absolutely wonderful. And honestly looking back on it, I feel like I'm pretty sure all the problems were our fault. We would ring the bell, get him to pee, then go directly on out for a walk. Or not ring the bell, but go out the same door to see the neighbor's dog and play. These little dogs are smart, too smart. I only wish I would have been smart enough to use the other door from day one, but lesson learned and we're back in potty training boot camp again. I can only blame myself , ya know? Still, I really believe it you are super insanely dilligent, attentive, and consistent, it doesn't really take these guys too long to learn anything, including where the best place to potty is to get that yummy treat

Good luck with Thor, I have faith in him (and by him, I really mean you) ;-)

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Thor is 2 1/2 years old. His previous owner never fully trained him. I think she had a studio apartment he knew he couldn't mark, and then he would roam over our offices and pee wherever he wanted with no one the wiser.

I do have two doors leaving my apartment, so I suppose I could designate one of them the potty door... they both lead into the same hallway, though.
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Yaaaaaaay! Thor was acting kind of antsy, so I put him on the pee pad and told him to go potty... AND HE DID! It was so cool, I can't even tell you. It was a total "click" moment!
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Aw, awesome :-) I remember now reading some of your other posts about Thor - I'm sure you'll be able to get him trained, but it'll take a bit.

Here's another example of how smart these dudes are - In two days, Nikko has already figured out his new bell, AND his new treats. On the second day, he rang the bell to be let out to pee, and then proceeded to do three short little pees outside instead of his normal one big pee so he could get three treats! The peanut butter chips are now being split into fourths, lol. But there've been no accidents in the last couple days either! I just hope this keeps up - for Thor and for Nikko. Gotta love those "ah-ha!" moments. :-)

If you keep up with the bell or really any encouraging him to pee outside at all, I would definitely designate one door to be a potty door, and one door an everything-else door if you possibly can, even though they lead to the same hall. Just my 2 cents, from my experience.
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