Help: New Puppy Aggressive towards 18 month 2lb Yorkie

[darnlora]

Folks sometimes its better to agree to disagree. I thought this forum for us all to learn...... that doesn't give anyone the assertive right to belittle anyone! A variety of opinions is a good thing and my mom told me along time ago sometimes when she gives me advice its ok to listen then as long as I have choices laid out it is up to me to keep what I need and discard the rest but listen to all...... We all have a variance of life experience and educational backgrounds... I am sure the original poster was looking for any and all advice, not a fight about who has more experience, education, some people on here think there is room for us ALL to learn!!!!!!! Have a blessed day!!

[chachi]

We are all giving opinions that is what this forum is for and no ones opinion is greater than another I dont care how much experience someone has. We all are dog owners and we all have experience. It may not be the same as someone elses but the op can sift through the posts and take what they want to take and leave the rest. I just dont like it when someone makes a point to say their opinion is more valuable than someone elses. Not every one does things the same way yet we all get results

[mscat]

Hi Shellie,
Your new baby wants to play with the other dog... But your other dog is getting walked all over . Your 2yr old Yorkie must be so placid , and laid back. She is putting up with the new puppy.
When the play gets out of hand, I would distract the puppy. Give her a toy or treat. Or play with her yourself. you might even have to separate them until things calm down.
Many yorkie owners have several dogs and certainly could offer really good advice.
I wish you the best of luck.

[bellasmomok]

Thank you for saying that. In retrospect, I was feeling a little defensive, and for that I'm sorry. I have a hard time leaving well enough alone when I feel "opinion-bashed" (my made-up word ) or feel like someone took something the wrong way--I feel the need to explain. I'm so thankful for all the opinions I've read on here about many, many different things!!! I've left a lot of them, but used a lot as well. So, thank you!

[broodizt]

Hello all,

First of all, I would like to say thank you to everyone who took the time out of their busy schedules to write and try to help me in my hour of desperation. I did not want to do a disservice to either Cassie or Muffin, or cause any harm, damage, impediment to learning or confusion to either Muffin or Cassie.

I find that each and every post has something to offer and I am grateful for the variety of different approaches and ideas.

I have gleaned from these discussions that there is more than one way to handle or manage theses situations, and that I guess each person needs to try various methods for themselves to see what works for them.

I am slowly understanding that there is no absolute right or wrong, that these matters are as much a personal vision and a philosophy as well as a specific individual method of handling situations such as mine. Also involved are the personalities of our little ones- who depend so much upon our love, wisdom and fairness to handle these things in the best way possible for both of them. Whew! That is a TALL order (LOL).

I have not actually reached any conclusions as of yet. Everyone's idea's seem to have some merit. I am trying to put them all together and sift through the pro's and con's of each methodology, or even perhaps combine them when appropriate-having a more eclectic approach. However, in the end, I do think whatever approach, consistency may be more important than any specific method or philosophy-as long as the method leaves both parties their dignity and feeling valued and loved.

Does this sound silly to you, when talking about our babies? Although they are not human, I do believe that they all have a sense of dignity and can feel when they have lost their own dignity and self respect. Maybe as long as whatever we do, we do it with love and patience on a consistant basis, it will be alright. I would be lying to you if I said I have it all worked out. I'm still confused, but I am trying certain methods. I will keep you all updated on my progress. I continue to welcome all who would share sincerely, their knowledge and experiences, to keep posting as I am open to all viewpoints.

Thank you all for everything, you have certainly given me something to think about and a place to start exploring. I don't feel as lost as I was. I appreciate each and every one of you. If not for you, I would be ALONE in this dilemma. Much Love, Shellie

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by broodizt

Hello all,

First of all, I would like to say thank you to everyone who took the time out of their busy schedules to write and try to help me in my hour of desperation. I did not want to do a disservice to either Cassie or Muffin, or cause any harm, damage, impediment to learning or confusion to either Muffin or Cassie.

I find that each and every post has something to offer and I am grateful for the variety of different approaches and ideas.

I have gleaned from these discussions that there is more than one way to handle or manage theses situations, and that I guess each person needs to try various methods for themselves to see what works for them.

I am slowly understanding that there is no absolute right or wrong, that these matters are as much a personal vision and a philosophy as well as a specific individual method of handling situations such as mine. Also involved are the personalities of our little ones- who depend so much upon our love, wisdom and fairness to handle these things in the best way possible for both of them. Whew! That is a TALL order (LOL).

I have not actually reached any conclusions as of yet. Everyone's idea's seem to have some merit. I am trying to put them all together and sift through the pro's and con's of each methodology, or even perhaps combine them when appropriate-having a more eclectic approach. However, in the end, I do think whatever approach, consistency may be more important than any specific method or philosophy-as long as the method leaves both parties their dignity and feeling valued and loved.

Does this sound silly to you, when talking about our babies? Although they are not human, I do believe that they all have a sense of dignity and can feel when they have lost their own dignity and self respect. Maybe as long as whatever we do, we do it with love and patience on a consistant basis, it will be alright. I would be lying to you if I said I have it all worked out. I'm still confused, but I am trying certain methods. I will keep you all updated on my progress. I continue to welcome all who would share sincerely, their knowledge and experiences, to keep posting as I am open to all viewpoints.

Thank you all for everything, you have certainly given me something to think about and a place to start exploring. I don't feel as lost as I was. I appreciate each and every one of you. If not for you, I would be ALONE in this dilemma. Much Love, Shellie

Well said allowing them the sense of dignity is very important and needed.
Exploring is a wonderful way to learn.

Just like we go to a mechanic to get our car fixed or our Family doctor to find out info and get help. We may know somethings but not it all and asking advice and learning.

JL

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by chachi

We are all giving opinions that is what this forum is for and no ones opinion is greater than another I dont care how much experience someone has. We all are dog owners and we all have experience. It may not be the same as someone elses but the op can sift through the posts and take what they want to take and leave the rest. I just dont like it when someone makes a point to say their opinion is more valuable than someone elses. Not every one does things the same way yet we all get results

I understand what you are saying and I get that this is the general feeling.
Follow this thought.

So we all drive cars and know how put gas in them and that the wheels go round and round and the engine must run to make it go..
So it does not start do you stick you head in hit it twice or do you take it to the mechanic that been to school read the books and understands the engines and th computors that run them.

Hummm unless I am a trained mechaic or a have an understanding of a car engine I going off to the mechanic.

My child has an ear ach and I know what it is and I try the medication to unclug the nasel passages but it not working.. Do I try something else or do I go see a Dr. that been to school and undeerstand the workings of an ear or not.
That same child brakes and arm....???? I going to know to keep it still and give him a pain killer and run him to a Dr one specializing in bones.....


Dog trainer those that I run with spend a great deal of time learning their craft and yes we all own dogs but as dog trainers we have taken it to a teaching level and a learned level that out passes most " dog owner"

Now that said there as a great deal of very wise dog owners out there that have spent there time busting there butts to learn to save a critically ill dog cause no out there close enough to teach or to guide.

That be my start point so I get there are a few very wise dog owners that understand this stuff.

And on that note there are a few said trainers and two on TV that know not a thing and are held in high requried but they stopped learning and they stopped seeing what is realy there not what is folk lure.

JL

[chachi]

A child and a dog are different a child can tell you they have an ear ache. A dog cant you can only quess. So I quess that is the point I am trying to make. No one on this earth (even the dog experts) can get into the mind of a dog. So it is just their opinion the same as someone on here. If someone on here has gotten good results from ther training method than I think thats what the op wants to hear. Also there are alot of dog trainers all with different methods and not everyone goes by the same one and thats okay. Who is to say who is superior opinion when like I said no one on this earth can get intoo the mind of a dog

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by chachi

A child and a dog are different a child can tell you they have an ear ache. A dog cant you can only quess. So I quess that is the point I am trying to make. No one on this earth (even the dog experts) can get into the mind of a dog. So it is just their opinion the same as someone on here. If someone on here has gotten good results from ther training method than I think thats what the op wants to hear. Also there are alot of dog trainers all with different methods and not everyone goes by the same one and thats okay. Who is to say who is superior opinion when like I said no one on this earth can get intoo the mind of a dog

Well dear then you best not talk to those that do rekie ( that no spelt right) or are animal communicators as tehy feel they can get into a mind.

Now that said I am not sure if I even believe that is possible but I do rekie for my dog to help calm her.

No one here least of all me is feeling superior in any of my thoughts as I made and will make a great many mistakes on my path of learning.
It is by making mistakes we learn.

Good results is great aslong as your dealing with a dog without any metal health concerns at all. and unless you can see it you do not know that.
Nor do I so going slow allows one to make a mistake that is not hurtful and you can not take back or change with a little work or you have not made the dog fearful.


JL

[chachi]

Originally Posted by YorkieMother

Well dear then you best not talk to those that do rekie ( that no spelt right) or are animal communicators as tehy feel they can get into a mind.

Now that said I am not sure if I even believe that is possible but I do rekie for my dog to help calm her.

No one here least of all me is feeling superior in any of my thoughts as I made and will make a great many mistakes on my path of learning.
It is by making mistakes we learn.

Good results is great aslong as your dealing with a dog without any metal health concerns at all. and unless you can see it you do not know that.
Nor do I so going slow allows one to make a mistake that is not hurtful and you can not take back or change with a little work or you have not made the dog fearful.


JL

Well I dont believe in animal communicators so I wouldnt agree with you

[YorkieMother]

Originally Posted by chachi

Well I dont believe in animal communicators so I wouldnt agree with you

I did not say I agreed with animal communicators, did I??
I said I did rekei which is just energy work. Does not require me to think I can mind join with a dog at all.

I was just pointing out that there are some that think they can.

Now the science is not behind them as it is with what I have talked about.
The research and the cross checks are in place to support what I have chatted about not so with what you have chatted about nor the animal communicators either.
Just cause it always been done does not mean there is reseach to prove it is correct.

JL

[littlebit_3642]

I have the same problem at home. My yorkie is almost 13 weeks as is my husband's dog, a mix of rat terrier & whatever else that makes a good squirrel dog, lol. Although mine is half the size of the other one she plays so rough with her. She is not aggressive where food or toys are concerned, just growls, bites, and jumps on the other one while playing. I am constantly trying to keep them apart to prevent it but my husband says that eventually they will get over it and she will stop. So I don't really have any advice but wanted to let you know mine is doing the same.

[sharon]

i have a 2 lb. male yorkie, and when he came home it was certainly a fiasco!

i already have a 4 year old 7 lb male yorkie and a 6 year old 3 lb maltese (who by the way is the Alpha here!)
this was certainly a test. Mcdreamy, the little (new one) was just jumping all over everyone.i thought FOR SURE that elliott was going to bite him. I watched them, butalso,let them work it out, and they did. mcdreamyKNOWS when to stop.
now, my daughter bought a newyorkie(who isalmost onenow) and she also has a little Maltese, who is VERY demure. shes so quite, rarely barks, and just let little sophie take over. sophie jumps all over her, and its just been RECENTLY, that they now play fine. sophie is definately the Alpha, but thats okay.
i think as long as you watch them when you can, should be okay. a 1 or 2 lb. dog REALLY cant harm your other one, i dont think. but if you really are concerned, please contact your vet. good luck.

Originally Posted by broodizt

Hi all,

I just got a 4 month old tiny puppy. She is about 1.2lbs, so she is small, about half the size of my almost 18 month old. My problem is she keeps charging at my poor little girl, seems to nip and try to bite her, steals her toys.....and she is half the size. My older girl seems lost, and hesitant to stand up for her rights. She seems afraid to set limits and ends up being abused by the puppy. The puppy charges at her like a bull and then rams into her, jumps on her and sometimes even tries to bite her. She just seems so lost, so depressed. I wonder am I supposed to stop these shenanegans? Or allow them to work it out themselves? Both of them are very very small. my older one is only between 2 and 2.5 lbs. She seems so depressed, I'm almost thinking of selling the puppy because my older one seems to be having such a bad reaction. Should I step in and stop the puppy from jumping on the older one? How should I handle this my first time as the parent of two puppy dogs. I don't know how to handle this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. By the way, the puppy is the cutest thing. Very rambunctious and full of energy and cute as pie. But I dont want my older girl to be depressed or abused. She is the love of my life. Help!!!! Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Shellie :-)

[sharon]

i think, basically, the new little one, JUST wants to play...

[sadiesamie]

How was Cassie and Merlin together before Merlin passed away? Didn't they get along? Is Muffin also a yorkie? I haven't been on line in FOREVER... Renee