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Old 01-13-2008, 07:31 PM   #31
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please dont give your baby valium..gosh, i have never heard of such thing ..it's a puppy so of course they have tons of energy..why dont you play with the baby or take the baby out for long walks! Please use the harness. there is NO need for choke chain for a yorkie puppy. I have 10 months old and 11 months old girls and they have soo much energy also. They just need you to play with them or take them for a walk to get rid of energy but dear god do not drug your puppy!
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:35 PM   #32
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Pinch collar??? Did I read that right? Please please please stop using it. Yorkies are very prone to collapsed trachea. Always use a harness.

He's still a puppy. I strongly discourage medication except for emergency situations. Wear him out with playing and walks. That's the nature of a yorkie...embrace and enjoy his playfulness.
I haven't read any of the other replies, but I agree with everything you said 100%!

And PLEASE do stop using the pinch collar...OMG And please do NOT give him medication to calm him down...he is just a puppy for heavens sake - LET HIM be a puppy! This is so sad
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Dylan is 6 months old and is totally nuts when out of his pen. He will sit and stay and heel nicely when he gets his walks with his pinch collar, but once inside with the collar off, he's super hyper and won't obey his commands because he full of play, jumping and running like the Road Runner, that can last for quite a while.

When I jokingly mentioned to his vet that there should be a valium pill for Yorkies, he said there is medication you can give them to calm them down a little. Has anyone had any experience with this medication? I don't remember the name but it was something like Doggie Down.

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You have a puppy. He is being a puppy.
It is up to you to teach him and have patience with him while he is learning.
Not to drug him.
He is only a baby.
Please give him time and be patient. He will shine for you.
His success at becoming a lovely dog is in your hands.
You have been blessed to be a Yorkie owner, give thanks that you have a healthy happy puppy and not someone who has a sick puppy that has no energy to play.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:13 AM   #34
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You have a puppy. He is being a puppy.
It is up to you to teach him and have patience with him while he is learning.
Not to drug him.
He is only a baby.
Please give him time and be patient. He will shine for you.
His success at becoming a lovely dog is in your hands.
You have been blessed to be a Yorkie owner, give thanks that you have a healthy happy puppy and not someone who has a sick puppy that has no energy to play.
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Omg what?

Are you for real? You should have learned more about a yorki before getting one. Sorry to be so blunt, but listen to the posts on here or you'll probably end up with a dead puppy.
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Absolutely no collars should be used on Yorkies except maybe as decoration. Always a harness--there are many different kinds and many are quite decorative. Do a search here on YT for harnesses--many YTers make them.

And in my opinion, if you're thinking of putting the dog on valium, I have to ask did you really research this breed before getting one??? Wear the puppy out by playing with him; do not medicate the dog.
Are collars bad for all sizes? My yorkie seems a lot more sturdy than others, as he is a 9 pounder. I totally understand that it would be crazy to put a collar and ANY pressure on the necks of the smaller ones, but what about a larger yorkie?
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Are collars bad for all sizes? My yorkie seems a lot more sturdy than others, as he is a 9 pounder. I totally understand that it would be crazy to put a collar and ANY pressure on the necks of the smaller ones, but what about a larger yorkie?
Yes they are yorkies of all sizes can get collapsed trachea
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I use a harness on Remi and a long retracktable leash for play only. He goes to obedience class and does well with the collar provided by the instructor. I was fortunate to get an instructor that raised and bred Yorkies for seventeen years. The collar she provided is a non-slip nylon choke that does not move. It remains very high on the neck and does not endanger the trachea.
I admit that I was very skeptical about this at first, but after training for six months, I find that it is quite benefical.
There is no way to obedience train any dog with a harness collar. We have to be mindful, however, about the fragile, little necks that our little ones have.
Please do not use the standard choker chain or any such collar on your Yorkie. You will need to consult with someone who is knowledgeable about this in your area.

As far as the vet medicating your pup, I would say no no no. Yorkies are like little wind up toys! They are so energetic and full of happiness. Why would anyone want to stifle them or break their spirit. This would be a shame. Yorkies, I believe, are not for everyone. That is why it is so nice to have this Yorkie Community to help us understand this very fine "King of Terriers" companion that we have in our homes!

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There is no way to obedience train any dog with a harness collar. We have to be mindful, however, about the fragile, little necks that our little ones have.
That is not true. My trainer trains with NO collars. Her dogs are obedience champions. We used collars/harnesses & leashes in class just to control the dogs to make sure they didn't run off to play with the dog next to them. Her advanced classes are done off leash.
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I Wouild Love To Have A Hyper Puppy.. I Believe In Training But Only The Harness And Please Do Not Medicate Your Dog......
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Let your puppy be a puppy. Pinch collars and medications are cruel and unnessary. We use the silk step in harness made by Chattiesmom and it only has one snap to deal with and also it doesn't come up close to the throat at all. It also doesn't cause the coat to mat.
I would not even consider paying for training lessons for a tiny dog when you can easily and safely train the dog yourself. There are many, many books to help you out. Good luck with your baby.
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That is not true. My trainer trains with NO collars. Her dogs are obedience champions. We used collars/harnesses & leashes in class just to control the dogs to make sure they didn't run off to play with the dog next to them. Her advanced classes are done off leash.

Sounds like you have a terrific trainer. Our class sounds similar to yours except we are not permitted to use harnesses. The advanced classes are all off lead. For puppy and the novice classes that follow, each dog has a collar that is picked out by the instructor for the particular breed and behavior of the dog.

My dog and I enjoy the classes immensely. Even after so many years of owning dogs I realize that there is so much more to learn.

Thanks for your input.
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Sounds like you have a terrific trainer. Our class sounds similar to yours except we are not permitted to use harnesses. The advanced classes are all off lead. For puppy and the novice classes that follow, each dog has a collar that is picked out by the instructor for the particular breed and behavior of the dog.

My dog and I enjoy the classes immensely. Even after so many years of owning dogs I realize that there is so much more to learn.

Thanks for your input.
I don't understand why the trainer would pick out the collar??? Except to use it forcefully for a correction, it shouldn't matter what type of collar the dog is wearing if any, and we learned to train without using force on the collar. My trainer discourages traditional harnesses because they encourage pulling, but loves Easy Walk harnesses. Harnesses are not allowed in competition, but none of us were serious enough to compete so we could use harnesses all we wanted.
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I firmly believe in positive training for a Yorkie. Anyone who suggests, pinch or choke collar could be killing your Yorkie and I don't believe these methods should be used on any dog. I believe that only harness's should be used on a Yorkie and it is okay to leave one on a Yorkie all the time but it will matt up their hair. Yorkies love one on one interaction and they love to get out and walk.

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WHY I BELIEVE IN RELATIONSHIP-BASED TRAINING
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Through my over thirty years of training experience, I have found that positive dog training built on a relationship is the most kind, effective method of training. When you have a relationship with the dog, you have trust, and the dog wants to spend time with and work with you. By reinforcing behaviors that you like and want to continue seeing, you set the dog up for success. Positive dog training is effective for teaching new behaviors or changing current behavior for ANY genetically stable, medically healthy animals. Regardless of an animal’s age and past experiences, positive training methods give an animal the best chance for success in his lifetime.
My education consists first of training many different types of animals. The success of positive training, in modifying the behavior, was proof of its value. As I became aware of other training techniques, through years of experience of working with other trainers, veterinarians, attending conferences, reading books, and watching videos, I furthered my belief in positive training methods based in relationship. By staying abreast of the animal welfare movement, I continue to be open to advances in the field of training and behavior.
We can use this simple rule to our advantage—dogs do what works. Keeping this in mind, positive training methods include:
Understanding the animal’s needs—is this animal injured, ill, fearful, frustrated, hungry, thirsty, needs to eliminate?
Understanding body language to help the animals and keep ourselves safe
Reinforcing any behavior you like
Eliciting and reinforcing appropriate behavior through shaping, targeting, or capturing the behavior
Teaching incompatible behaviors to address undesirable behaviors
Preventing the ability to continue practicing unwanted behaviors by controlling the environment, and controlling exposure
Supervising to set up for success
Setting up situations for behavior modification
Using what the dog wants to your advantage; find out what motivates the dog
Ignoring unwanted behavior
Distracting a dog to refocus
Positive trainers also have realistic expectations for the animal. They understand that animals are not born knowing how to fit into our human lives. Most adult dogs I meet have not properly been taught how to be part of a loving human family. If they have been in a loving home they still lack the skill to generalize toward strangers, new situations, etc. Punishing an animal for not knowing anything is an unfair expectation. Every animal should be seen as an individual.
There are training methods, not based in relationship, that I choose not to use after seeing the negative effects on the animals. These are methods which cause confusion, lack of trust, breakdown in relationship, physical injury, fear, and so-called unpredictable behavior. Examples include:
Dominance
Physical force
Pushing a dog into a sit or down
Alpha rolls
Physical punishment (hitting, kicking, slapping, hanging, finger grabs)
Leash corrections
Harsh tones; verbal reprimands
Cornering the dog and not giving him an “out”
Methods which rely on inflicting pain
Pinch/prong collar
Training/choke chains
In addition to the negative effects on the animals, these techniques have caused people to get injured and dogs to lose their lives. The success rate for positive-based training greatly outweighs the use of punishment/discipline-based training.
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You have a puppy. He is being a puppy.
It is up to you to teach him and have patience with him while he is learning.
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Please give him time and be patient. He will shine for you.
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