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Old 12-27-2007, 08:19 AM   #16
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No trainer should recommend a choke collar or pinch collar to a Yorkie (or any other) owner. They are cruel and dangerous. Why would you want to stick prongs into your dog's neck? Why would you want to choke it? Regular collars for any breed are bad enough (and should never be used on small dogs). Any trainer that has to choke a dog or jab its neck to get it to submit is not a good trainer at all. These techniques should be saved for severely aggressive dogs where the next step is euthanasia. While I'm on the subject, I don't like Gentle Leaders either. They are a bad design. The collar part was way too tight on Ellie (and I didn't tighten it as much as the directions said). It sat in the right spot and it looked horrible. The nose piece can rub and irritate and then correction is given by jerking the head. I do not like them at all.
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No trainer should recommend a choke collar or pinch collar to a Yorkie (or any other) owner. They are cruel and dangerous. Why would you want to stick prongs into your dog's neck? Why would you want to choke it? Regular collars for any breed are bad enough (and should never be used on small dogs). Any trainer that has to choke a dog or jab its neck to get it to submit is not a good trainer at all. These techniques should be saved for severely aggressive dogs where the next step is euthanasia. While I'm on the subject, I don't like Gentle Leaders either. They are a bad design. The collar part was way too tight on Ellie (and I didn't tighten it as much as the directions said). It sat in the right spot and it looked horrible. The nose piece can rub and irritate and then correction is given by jerking the head. I do not like them at all.
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:47 AM   #18
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I too didnt realize how much energy these little furballs have, and when he first got home and was crying I almost got rescue remedy to calm him down and even considered taking him back....that was around halloween.

But I kept hearing, he's just a puppy and realized he really was just a a baby...learned to talk long walks when I can tell he is getting edgy(which are good for your health anyway) and I take him to play with another puppy friend (Bailey can hardly move after playing for 4 hours straight), and teaching him the house rules.

Bailey is 20 weeks and knows that when he barks to get on the couch that means chill out or he goes back down on the floor away from god forbid, his parents and their warmth and attention.

He's been on the couch either watching tv, falling asleep hear and there, or chewing his toy since I got on YT around noon today lol.

It will get better - just stay firm; Bailey is still very hard headed at times.
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my mickey and bella are both 8mths old and they run around chasing each other and having fun.they jump on the bed off the other side into the other room, under the couch then bound back around onto the bed etc etc and both look totally mental with their tongues hanging out knackered and you know what.. i wouldnt change them for the world. like everyone else says, he is just a puppy and full of life and excitement.you should be delighted that your fur baby is so happy living with you. treat your baby with love and you will be truley blessed.
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Um, well this sounds like a typical puppy- esp. a yorkie! You can try aromatherapy once in awhile. I spray Barney with this product from www.happytails.com it is for "in b/t" baths. You can spray it in yourr hand and let him smell it and then spray him down. They have a spray on conditioner that does the same thing- it is like catnip!
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OMG- please do NOT use a freaking choke chain on your DOG! I will not write anymore b/c I am SICK to my stomach right now. If you can't handle him then give him to a yorkie rescue- these are very precious loving little babies- they do not deserve to be treated like this. Thanks!
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Typical puppy!!! It will get better once he is 12-18 months old.

OK guys, I know everyone is concerned about the pinch collar. So am I, someone who has trained for years with a positive reinforcement trainer. I agree with you, and normally I'm the first to jump but since you all have already I get to be the voice of reason.

Anyone can be a trainer (groomer too for that matter). There is no license. I've taken 7 or so classes with my own dogs and I could decide tomorrow that that makes me qualified to call myself a trainer and train dogs. Average people don't know this. They also don't know the history behind the alpha BS and new techniques that are based in science (like conditioning). People see Cesar on TV and think it's all about "dominating" your dog. That's why I'm so anti-Cesar. Not necessarily because of any one thing that he does, but because he glorifies the concept of this domination of your pet.

The bottom line is, you want your dog to like you. If he pees on the floor and you come home and hit him, he is going to think you are completely nuts and fear you. If he pees in the grass and you give him a piece of hot dog and do a happy dance, he sure as heck is going to try to repeat the behavior! Yes you look like an idiot standing in your front yard baby-talking to your dog telling her what a super duper pooper she is!!! But it works!

So, here's the bottom line. First of all, don't use a pinch collar on Yorkie or for that matter any dog under 12 months old (I wouldn't use them on any dogs, but even trainer who USE pinch collars I dare say..properly...will tell you that.)

Here's how they work on some dogs: Dog pulls. OUCH! OK dog stops pulling - when the collar is on. Off collar is another story.

Here's how they works on *other* dogs: Dog pulls to try to chase a bird. OUCH! Connection in dog's brain -> Bird=Ouch. Dog is now afraid of birds. Seriously! And you don't know which dog you are going to get.

Besides, WALKS are supposed to be fun. Loki knows the difference between going on a walk and getting to stop to sniff and whatever, and a walk where I ask him to "watch me" and follow by my side (we never taught him to heel because we never did trials.) It's not hard to teach - you just carry treats in your pocket and ask for his attention and when he does well give him a treat. Take it slow. Check out "Positive Perspectives" by Pat Miller. You can get it Borders or B&N or Amazon.

How do you get him to stop pulling? They make special harnesses for that. I even carry them on my website: www.barkaholics.biz They even have them at Petsmart, although they don't carry all of the sizes. You do not have to use a pinch collar, ever. Please consider talking to some more trainers. Ask to see them show your their methods with their own dogs. My trainer doesn't even train with ANY collar. Yanking on a flat buckle collar is just as bad as a choke collar. Look for someone who uses treat rewards and consequences like time outs. No "corrections"

For your pup, exercise is KEY. Yes, your arm will get tired throwing the ball forever. Also, you dog might be smart (and therefore bored) so puzzle (food) toys help with that too! Bully sticks help too because your dog will chew the stick rather than bug you!

Good luck and please feel free to ask questions!!!
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Forgot to address the meds. Was it Clomicalm? Most of the meds are for anxiety, not hyper-activity. As far as I know there is no doggie ritalin. So, even if you tried the drugs they wouldn't work. You'd just get a dog that was out of it, not very fun at all. Let your puppy be a puppy. There are LOTS of tools out there that you can use, you just have to look for them and ask for help!
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Don't know if it works or not, but I saw something at Petco the other day. It's called Good Dog. It is an all natural liquid that is added to your pets water dish. Apparently it is supposed to calm hyper dogs. The ingrediants listed are essences from flowers, including impatiens, HPUS and clematis HPUS, purified water. If you go to Petco's website you can find it in the training and behavior section.
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Why don't you rehome him and choose a stuff animal , they are calmer .
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are yorkies hyper????? your puppy is full of life and fun not hyper. i agree with last post, get a toy that you can play with then put in the cupboard. i am sorry, but you dont drug your dog just because its being a normall puppy.
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When I jokingly mentioned to his vet that there should be a valium pill for Yorkies, he said there is medication you can give them to calm them down a little. Has anyone had any experience with this medication? I don't remember the name but it was something like Doggie Down.

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Regardng the original question of 'Doggie Valium' my dog walker recommended, Serene-UM Drops. "A Nutritional suppliment to calm and soothe hyperactive anxious and / or aggressive cats, dogs, and small animals"

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Watch Cesar Milan (The Dog Whisperer) on the National Geographic Channel.
He never recommends anything that could harm your precious pet. Anyone who doesn't want a spirited dog should not get any type of Terrier. I've had
a Scottie (13 yrs), a Westie (15 yrs) and Yorkie (3 yrs) and one of the most
endearing things about each of them was their terrier personality and playful nature !!!
Annie is wearing her harness vest in the adjoining picture. I ordered it from Care-a-lot pet supply for about $12, and includes a matching leash.

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Diego....loved your comment
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We're empty-nesters and we love the bouncing hyper-activity that our 11 mo. old Yorkie and 7 mo. rescue pommie give us. Gives us something else to think about than ourselves. Our two senior girls just lazy around and get annoyed at the two bouncers. Joanne
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