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Old 01-11-2011, 02:26 PM   #226
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I'm not without fault, I have a lot. I'm not trying to pass judgment and I'm sorry for any underhanded comments. I don;t know what crawled under my skin.

My drive and passion comes from my own mistakes in how I have handled situations with yorkeis, so it is only fair for me to say that the same could be true for the OP.

If it were not for my experiences both bad and good in dealing with my own pups I would not be where I am today.


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I'm not without fault, I have a lot. I'm not trying to pass judgment and I'm sorry for any underhanded comments. I don;t know what crawled under my skin.

My drive and passion comes from my own mistakes in how I have handled situations with yorkeis, so it is only fair for me to say that the same could be true for the OP.

If it were not for my experiences both bad and good in dealing with my own pups I would not be where I am today.
No one is without fault in everything we do. I have read in her previous posts that Elaine admits her mistakes, but still she is getting slammed. This is a Breeder Review Section- Not a Bash the OP for making a mistake section.
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I couldn't watch the entire video. No matter what research you did to find the pup I find it hard to believe the seller didn't know she was sick. You can hear it and see it. She should have never been sold.
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No one is without fault in everything we do. I have read in her previous posts that Elaine admits her mistakes, but still she is getting slammed. This is a Breeder Review Section- Not a Bash the OP for making a mistake section.
Look, I'm not "bashing", I'm reviewing as well. If you are entitled to jump on here and and voice your opinion then so am I.

I apologized because some of my comments were a little quick and harsh (in NO way "bashing", give me a break!) but I stand firmly by the fact that this OP has made some pretty huge mistakes ALONG with the "greeders".

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I couldn't watch the entire video. No matter what research you did to find the pup I find it hard to believe the seller didn't know she was sick. You can hear it and see it. She should have never been sold.
The breeder made Elaine aware the puppy was ill and also sent her home with medicine.

Which makes me wonder if those circumstances neglegate the puppy lemon laws...whose purpose was to help people who had unknowlingly purchased sick puppies.
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The breeder made Elaine aware the puppy was ill and also sent her home with medicine.

Which makes me wonder if those circumstances neglegate the puppy lemon laws...whose purpose was to help people who had unknowlingly purchased sick puppies.
I don't think it negates the Lemon Laws. She was told the dog was well and had been cleared by the vet for sale. The medication was for "just in case".
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Look, I'm not "bashing", I'm reviewing as well. If you are entitled to jump on here and and voice your opinion then so am I.

I apologized because some of my comments were a little quick and harsh (in NO way "bashing", give me a break!) but I stand firmly by the fact that this OP has made some pretty huge mistakes ALONG with the "greeders".

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Look, I'm not "bashing", I'm reviewing as well. If you are entitled to jump on here and and voice your opinion then so am I.

I apologized because some of my comments were a little quick and harsh (in NO way "bashing", give me a break!) but I stand firmly by the fact that this OP has made some pretty huge mistakes ALONG with the "greeders".

If you don't like my gate don't swing on it.

Maybe I mis-spoke. Your are digging at the OP (in your own words).
Futhermore I don't want to "swing on your gate, or care which way it swings".

The point I am trying to make is this lady for what ever reason has a sick puppy that she purchased from these breeders. She made a review of these breeders in the Breeder, Vet, & Groomer Review section so that others may not make the same mistake as she did, but now for some reason others are bashing, diggin' on, or talking trash about the OP? Unless she is a Breeder, Vet, or Groomer personal reviews of the OP does not belong here and should not be allowed here. I'm sure she feels bad enough without people bashing or diggin' on her.
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glad you think that is funny.......

It's there to remind everyone including myself, and I believe I've already apologized for anything over the top that I said.
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Maybe I mis-spoke. Your are digging at the OP (in your own words). Yep, i was digging and making hasty remarks, for which I apologized.
Futhermore I don't want to "swing on your gate, or care which way it swings". Good

The point I am trying to make is this lady for what ever reason Reason is she made the misatke of going BACK to bad breeders that she herself called bad. has a sick puppy that she purchased from these breeders. She made a review of these breeders in the Breeder, Vet, & Groomer Review section so that others may not make the same mistake as she did, but now for some reason others are bashing, diggin' on, or talking trash about the OP? Unless she is a Breeder, Vet, or Groomer personal reviews of the OP does not belong here and should not be allowed here. I'm sure she feels bad enough without people bashing or diggin' on her. Report my posts to admin and stop digging at me
I will not sit here silent for fear that you think I'm Bashing digging or any other kind of ing you can come up with.

I disagreed with someone like you are disagreeing with me so deal with it.
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glad you think that is funny.......

It's there to remind everyone including myself, and I believe I've already apologized for anything over the top that I said.
I agree with you, she should have known better and yes twice is a pretty big mistake but the focus now is on the little one and making her better not throwing out unkind words, although I know you apologized and I really do understand your frustration for me once was enough but sometimes we make the mistake twice and we need forgiveness and some solid advice and I think you can definitely offer that
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I did not include your quote to be mean. I included it to because it is very wise. The sad thing about this whole thread is that there are a lot of upset people and hurt feelings all for the love of these wonderful dogs. The only people who don't seem to be upset with the situation is the original breeders/brokers. That they would suggest that they will put down all their animals as a threat alone shows how their true feeling run. I admire the love, devotion, and intensity of the people who are advocates against the byb and puppy mills. Better to have a strong opinion than to feel nothing at all.
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I did not include your quote to be mean. I included it to because it is very wise. The sad thing about this whole thread is that there are a lot of upset people and hurt feelings all for the love of these wonderful dogs. The only people who don't seem to be upset with the situation is the original breeders/brokers. That they would suggest that they will put down all their animals as a threat alone shows how their true feeling run. I admire the love, devotion, and intensity of the people who are advocates against the byb and puppy mills. Better to have a strong opinion than to feel nothing at all.
Sorry, I'm a little on the defensive as you can see. I'm not so good at taking my own medicine sometimes and I have a very hard time dealing with people that perpetuate the suffering of innocent animals, then I just can't shut my mouth.
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I'm leaning toward Nancy on this one. I'd be afraid to leave her with a stuffy nose for that long without checking in with the vet. Granted, I probably would have been there harassing them anyway

If you're worried about the $200 test maybe borrow money from a family member or maybe invest in one of those pet care credit cards I keep hearing about?
Hi. Not worried about the $200. I've gone into $523 as it is, so another $200 isn't going to break me. I had only said that she has improved dramatically in the past two days. Playing, eating and not acting sick in any way except for the nose this morning. I did call the vet right away. He said that there is a test that is fairly new, where they swab the mucis from the back of her throat and her eyes and then send it into the lab. We have been in contact just about daily, other then yesterday. He calls everyday and I've had her back for check ups about four times in the ten day period plus the intial exam so that would be five times. What he said was AND, this is to answer Nancy too. What he said was that it could be that because she was so congested that it is finally coming out of her and it is doing that by discharging through the nose. She is not coughing nearly as much, just she woke up with crap out of her nose, like a kid with a cold. He suggested bringing her back on Thursday morning, so we can take it from there. See IF the nose is clear by then and of course if it is worse tomorrow I'd bring her right in, but if it is not then she is scheduled for Thursday in which she will then have the swab done if it hasn't changed any. I would never let me dogs go without medical or anything else. I would do without first. I did call and ask about the decongestant. I am able to use a little plain saline just a drop in the nose and that will help to flush out whatever crap may be in there. It is non medicated, just simple saline. He said they use that on infants quite often because when they are sick it helps to clear the airways. I will not skimp on her. I'll have done whatever is needed, I just posted here because I felt that it does not hurt to ask others who may have had this experience and maybe their vets told them something different or maybe they know a remedy they've used etc. For example someone suggested Temural (may be spelling it wrong) they said it knocked it right out of their baby. Well, today I asked my vet about it but he said that is not an antibiotic and asked if I was refering to and he said another name. I forget what it was, but I do when people say things that they have used or experiences they've had I do ask the vet because I feel that MANY heads are sometimes better then just one. So I thank everyone for their input.

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