Excellent Breeder in Stroud Oklahoma~Leslee Mitchell!!! - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

atchdca · 08-01-2008, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jrincon17

well now i know more of the story, now i have a different look at it. one should never take checks either. there are bad people in the world thats for sure, some are sleazy and slimey.

Interesting to read this so I can defend myself: I did cancel the $200 check I gave Leslee Mitchell in addition to the $600 in cash we gave her. Leslee had every opportunity to make a professional decision to simply exchange the puppy for a refund. Would anyone else want to buy another puppy from her when she does not have the checked by a veterinarian prior to selling to a purchaser? I asked Leslee while visiting the puppies if the puppy was healthy in her bite, back, and legs as well as up to date on her shots. Leslee told me yes, how else would she know all that unless she brought it to the vet to be checked out. Leslee made a mistake and it may be her first but she had every opportunity to make the right decision and take responsibility for her actions.

atchdca · 08-01-2008, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by puppypaws

I just feel so for Leslee after seeing what this unreasonable, unhuman
lady has put her through. She does not deserve this.
I just wanted to help in one small way.
I told Leslee that this lady may have wanted this Yorkie for breeding herself....
and that is very scarry! If she would treat a human being like this...how would she treat her precious Yorkie.
Anyway, thanks for commenting...
Enjoy your sweet little Yorkie...I am!!!

Please - breed the Yorkie myself! I have a two year old and a four year old and definitely don't need to profit as a dog breeder. We were simply doing a nice thing for grandma so she can have a companion and it really blew up in our face.

atchdca · 08-01-2008, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by puppypaws

No, there is only the one lady posting as many times as she pleases
all over any website she can get away with it on. there were stringent federal laws passed this last year that allows for legal pursuit of someone who falsely tears someone's reputation or someone's business apart on the internet. this mean spirited lady has no idea what kind of Yorkshire Terrier breeder Leslee Mitchell is....all this lady wanted was a puppy for free. She tried canceling Leslee's check and Leslee took her to court for it. The lady's attorney knew she would lose and made her pay Leslee, not only the check amount but all court costs as well. THEN
all this posting on the internet took place! When the lady could not get a free puppy, she was intensely cruel to this wonderful breeder. Now she will see what a person of determination and integrity are all about. If one does not have their reputation, one does not have anything.

Puppy Paws - You are clueless and have no idea what you are talking about! My only other option was to counter-sue Leslee Mitchell for the puppy costs, court costs, and attorney fee's and give the puppy back. I opt to be a better person in this world and not to be a part of this sue happy generation. I also could have given the puppy back to Leslee and let her keep the $800 but who knows who would become the next victim of her selling this puppy without them knowing the condition. It is funny how Leslee keeps saying I cancelled her check in defense to this situation....what she fails to tell them it was only $200 and she still had our $600 in cash.

atchdca · 08-01-2008, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by puppypaws

Yes, it will interesting to see how this turns out~!
If people in MS and NJ can't stand up for someone
they have come to know and respect like I have for
Leslee, that is their shortcoming. I am from up in Missouri
and did not know Leslee until I bought my Yorkie puppy from her.
I also know that a vet report from this 'CRAZY LADY' that states
he found coccidia (which if you are versed at all in the puppy world
is a result of stress) and a grade I (out of V) on one knee of her puppy
----is not a huge problem. The coccidia could have been taken care of
in 4-5 days with an oral medication. My vet told me this and he also said
90% of Yorkies have at best, slightly loose knees. He also said a vet checking
the knee is doing a judgement call...checking knees is subjective. At a grade I
my vet said the knee cap didn't move off the knee but would have been only slightly loose. Are you in MS and NJ getting a little clearer picture?
I am not a paid advertisement nor am I anyone to Leslee except her very grateful client. You guys are sitting in your marble castles should get out in
the real America where sometimes you just drop a couple things in your meaningless lives and help someone who is overwhelmed and needs a hand.

Oh....found this 'CRAZY LADY" on a google search last night and she is a breeder....has group meeting in OKCity for her Chihuahuas.
Gives new light on her truthfulness.

You truly are clueless! I joined the Chihuahua website so I can warn chihuahua breeders/buyers about Leslee! I in no way own any chihuahua's or would ever consider breeding any dogs.

jrincon17 · 08-01-2008, 06:21 AM

i thought puupaws was fishy like she was leslee, sorry bout ur puppy. my bad

puppypaws · 08-01-2008, 06:47 AM

Oops...This lady joined the Chihuahua group in December of 2007....Long before
she ever met Leslee Mitchell.
Santa Rosa guy....I have contacted Leslee this AM and she will post the vet letter later today once she gets it scanned.
There is nothing fishy about me at all.
I am not Leslee Mitchell.
I have stated what I have seen and researched and hold on my lap a precious Yorkie as the best proof of all.
We will log back in as proceedings go to give you an update...
other than that, I just wanted to give Leslee the support she needed.
This lady is married to an anesthesiologist and if he were under attack for his livelihood and reputation, you don't think he would defend himself?
Think again.

atchdca
Get your pocketbook ready.

Erinmay · 08-01-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by puppypaws

Oops...This lady joined the Chihuahua group in December of 2007....Long before
she ever met Leslee Mitchell.
Santa Rosa guy....I have contacted Leslee this AM and she will post the vet letter later today once she gets it scanned.
There is nothing fishy about me at all.
I am not Leslee Mitchell.
I have stated what I have seen and researched and hold on my lap a precious Yorkie as the best proof of all.
We will log back in as proceedings go to give you an update...
other than that, I just wanted to give Leslee the support she needed.
This lady is married to an anesthesiologist and if he were under attack for his livelihood and reputation, you don't think he would defend himself?
Think again.

atchdca
Get your pocketbook ready.

This entire post is ridiculous and sad - puppypaws you are attacking atchdca just as you say she attacked Leslie. Do two wrongs make it right? Do you think you're the bigger person because your fighting for Leslie? Take a friggin valium and calm the hell down.

Leslie got her $600 and boo hoo the $200 check was cancelled. The puppy was sick and she should have been responsible about the situation. A good, responsible, reputable breeder wouldn't have responded to this situation the way she did with atchdca.

You're lucky your puppy is healthy - that DOES NOT mean she hasn't sold an unhealthy puppy before.

BTW - My marble castle? Is a 200 year old money pit I can't afford with asbestos siding. Stick it lady.

puppypaws · 08-01-2008, 07:57 AM

I am opening up the other side of the story...because all that was posted on this site was this lady's side and a lot of sympathy postings. There are bad buyers as well as bad breeders out there. Leslee is not out the $200 because the lady's attorney told her to pay up...he knew she would lose in court. Leslee is not out the $ but out the slam to her reputation....which is one complaint (unjustified) in 7 years as a quality breeder. Leslee did offer to replace the puppy per her contract with the lady, she wanted no part of it. Leslee was acting responsibly. She threatened to sue Leslee before anything else happened. I think Leslee has a right to defend herself and I have the right to voice my opinion just like this lady does. This opinion will be validated even further when this lady's vet report is posted later today.
I don't need a valium, I have a Yorkie to love me~!
I just want Leslee to have a fair shake.
Without my postings you would have nothing else to balance out what she has said. Until you are attacked I guess you will not know how she has felt.
The marble castle refers to someone off out of the situation with no connection to what has happened.....not that you are a well to do lawdy daw southern belle or anything like that!

KristinJ · 08-01-2008, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by puppypaws

I am opening up the other side of the story...because all that was posted on this site was this lady's side and a lot of sympathy postings. There are bad buyers as well as bad breeders out there. Leslee is not out the $200 because the lady's attorney told her to pay up...he knew she would lose in court. Leslee is not out the $ but out the slam to her reputation....which is one complaint (unjustified) in 7 years as a quality breeder. Leslee did offer to replace the puppy per her contract with the lady, she wanted no part of it. Leslee was acting responsibly. She threatened to sue Leslee before anything else happened. I think Leslee has a right to defend herself and I have the right to voice my opinion just like this lady does. This opinion will be validated even further when this lady's vet report is posted later today.
I don't need a valium, I have a Yorkie to love me~!
I just want Leslee to have a fair shake.
Without my postings you would have nothing else to balance out what she has said. Until you are attacked I guess you will not know how she has felt.
The marble castle refers to someone off out of the situation with no connection to what has happened.....not that you are a well to do lawdy daw southern belle or anything like that!

The problem isn't you trying to bring someone else's "side" to light.. it's the way you do it. You are flat out attacking someone else. Not just explaining facts. That's the problem. You're not making much of a case when you do that. I, for one, don't want to listen to you after reading all that simply because even though you're "not directly involved," you are so heated about this, name-calling and saying things like "get your pocketbook ready."

It's wrong. I don't care how this truly played out, or whether it was the buyer/breeders "fault."

Wylie's Mom · 08-01-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by puppypaws

atchdca
Get your pocketbook ready.

Quote:

Originally Posted by puppypaws

I just want Leslee to have a fair shake. Until you are attacked I guess you will not know how she has felt.

WHOA.

This sure reads "personally involved" to me. Puppypaws, I think Atchdca is explaining HER experience with this breeder, which is her right on YT. And you have explained yours. Please refrain from attacking her. We do NOT allow attacks.

Thank you.

tylermish · 08-01-2008, 08:32 AM

Hate to tell you but I'm from New jersey as well and I bought a puppy from Missouri. Now MY breeder is an excellent breeder, but that's another thread in itself. I must tell you though that not only is my puppy perfectly healthy, he did NOT have coccidia even after being on the plane for several hours and coming to a new home. Sounds to me this pup was already sick before going to the new owner. I have to agree, this sound an awful lot like the breeder herself posting...LOL!

atchdca · 08-01-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by puppypaws

I am opening up the other side of the story...because all that was posted on this site was this lady's side and a lot of sympathy postings. There are bad buyers as well as bad breeders out there. Leslee is not out the $200 because the lady's attorney told her to pay up...he knew she would lose in court. Leslee is not out the $ but out the slam to her reputation....which is one complaint (unjustified) in 7 years as a quality breeder.

Im the husband and the person that purchased the dog from the breeder. My Attorney did not persuade me to just pay cause we would lose first of all. He said we could counter sue or just pay out and be done with it. I chose the latter cause I didnt want to waste my time messing with this and take the higher ground. We have not stated anything about the breeders character. We have stated facts about the dog backed up by our vet. The facts are that the dog had 2 issues. We got this dog for my 83 year old grandmother, so we are sorry that we expected to get a healthy dog for her. We attempted to bring the dog back and get a refund several times. I even talked to breeders husband and was completely professional which got me nowhere. We posted on other forums to warn other potential buyer of the poor customer service and the sick dog we recieved. I think people have the right to be an informed consumer, and if someone would have posted this thread before I purchased from her I would not have puchased the dog from her in the first place. Im sorry this has gotten so nasty and out of hand, but from the multiple post you can see what we have been dealing with and why I chose to just pay. We are not flamming a person we are providing facts of our experience with a particular breeder, which happens to be very negative.

atchdca · 08-01-2008, 12:54 PM

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 11 Definition of Slander

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The Definition of Slander is :

SLANDER - A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures) which injures the character or reputation of the person defamed; distinguished from libel.

What I state is purely fact and in no way false! I bought a puppy from Leslee after driving out to Stroud and meeting the Sire and Dam as well, the names were Missy and Humper. My whole family sat in front of Leslee Mitchell's home visiting for a long time with the puppy we bought and the puppy you say is the littermate - who was Maisy at the time. We insisted on seeing the puppies living environment and we were told that Leslee just moved to Stroud from Weleetka and there were boxes everywhere in her house but she did say these were her home-raised pets and they were very well socialized in their family activities. When I brought the puppy to the vet the very next day I was told she had the Coccidia parasites and Patella Luxation, I notified Leslee before I even left the veterinarian office and she outright refused to take the puppy back for a refund. Yes, she offered the littermate in exchange but we did not decide on taking her because we did not think she was as cute and was bigger than the one we bought. We also made the decision we did not want to do further business with Leslee because she informed us the puppy was not vet checked, we were suprised learning that information because when I had asked if she was very healthy with her bite, back, and legs as well as being up to date on shots she said yes. The only reason your puppy came to you vet checked was because she had to take it to get treated for the Coccidia and see if she had the genetic knee disorder as well. I have attached the vet report for everyones review just to be sure there is no slander. Also, while you were visiting Leslee out in Stroud did you happen to get a tour of her kennel where she raises toy poodles, rat terriers, chihuahua's, and Border Collie's as well as the multiple dams of Yorkie's? I would not be surprised if you did not, because those are the real living conditions of where our puppies came from, not from the comfort of her home. I would have to admit Leslee was real good at portraying the perfect breeder image while we were at her home in Stroud, we absolutely got no indication of all these other dogs. Then again, who knows how far they are from the house since she has twenty acres to hide them on. Were you also aware that she is operating without a kennel license in the city limits of Stroud? Now, who is conducting Slander? I am only stating facts, what facts do you have about me when knowing nothing about me or this situation? Also, I am pasting a copy of an email Leslee sent to me in reply to our email showing we are doing homework on the diagnosis and were not happy, we just wanted a refund so we could find a healthy puppy. Just to let everyone know how professional Leslee is from what she states in her email, we are renting because my husband and I are in the process of building a home since we just moved to OKC ourselves. Just as a reminder - we were never told any policy prior to purchasing Daisy, we were told their would be a 1 year genetic health guarantee and that was it - which the Patella is genentic. Here is her "professional" email:

From: "Steve and Leslee" <springhill@itlnet.net> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Coccidia
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:41:06 -0600

I am glad that you have done your homework!!!!! As I have stated before I give a one year genetic health gurantee. Liver, heart, kidneys and lungs, life threating. As I stated before I will be happy to replace your puppy. I will need you to mail me a copy of the vets report so I can have my vet look it over about the knees. I have been breeding for 7 years and I know all about what a good breeder is and I did not tell you must take within 48 or 72 hours your puppy to the vet for any kind of guarantee to be valid. If a puppy is going to have a genetic issue it will show up before the year!!! Alot of breeders MAKE you do that within their time frame, which alot of new owners do not, so they are not entilted to a refund. As I told you before I would be happy to replace with a different puppy when one becomes available or you can have Maisy. Yes the knees is genetic, but without an X-ray and of course having a second a opinion it what is needed. It does not mean that Maisy would have. And yes if it is confirmed that the puppy does have that then, you will need to find out if it is coming from moms line or dad's. But for 7 years I have not had a problem with the knees. You are not going to FORCE me to do anything. You really do not know as much as you think! Yes I send a nice care package with the puppies that I ship, I do not give them locally. I don't think that your grandmother is wanting to breed is she? I don't what you to have a puppy with a knee problem, and would not expect you to keep one with one, however your arguing, and trying to say that maybe I spent what you had paid me, highly insulted me, I am not the one that is renting am I???????? NO I have 3 houses asnd 200 acres! Glad we got that straight! IF would like to fax the documents to me let me know so that I can turn on my fax machine. Maybe you should have asked me alot more questions before you purchased Daisy. I will be happy to take Daisy back for you, but I will not refund any money. I will take Maisy to my vet and have her knees checked with health cert, should you decide to take her. Don't bother asking again for a refund, I will not change my mind, and I do have a whole book full of references to use if needed

Thank You,

Leslee
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atchdca · 08-01-2008, 01:11 PM

The vetts letter is in post 13 of this thread for those that are interested

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ables-com.html

jrincon17 · 08-01-2008, 06:08 PM

well waiting puppypaws, what does your letter say, does sound very personally involved

08-01-2008, 06:21 AM	#20
jrincon17 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: santa rosa, ca Posts: 648	i thought puupaws was fishy like she was leslee, sorry bout ur puppy. my bad __________________ IF EVERYONE OWNED A YORKIE, THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE Proud Papa of SUKI

08-01-2008, 06:08 PM	#30
jrincon17 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: santa rosa, ca Posts: 648	well waiting puppypaws, what does your letter say, does sound very personally involved __________________ IF EVERYONE OWNED A YORKIE, THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE Proud Papa of SUKI

08-01-2008, 06:47 AM	#21
puppypaws YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: wentworth,mo Posts: 9	Oops...This lady joined the Chihuahua group in December of 2007....Long before she ever met Leslee Mitchell. Santa Rosa guy....I have contacted Leslee this AM and she will post the vet letter later today once she gets it scanned. There is nothing fishy about me at all. I am not Leslee Mitchell. I have stated what I have seen and researched and hold on my lap a precious Yorkie as the best proof of all. We will log back in as proceedings go to give you an update... other than that, I just wanted to give Leslee the support she needed. This lady is married to an anesthesiologist and if he were under attack for his livelihood and reputation, you don't think he would defend himself? Think again. atchdca Get your pocketbook ready.

08-01-2008, 07:57 AM	#23
puppypaws YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: wentworth,mo Posts: 9	I am opening up the other side of the story...because all that was posted on this site was this lady's side and a lot of sympathy postings. There are bad buyers as well as bad breeders out there. Leslee is not out the $200 because the lady's attorney told her to pay up...he knew she would lose in court. Leslee is not out the $ but out the slam to her reputation....which is one complaint (unjustified) in 7 years as a quality breeder. Leslee did offer to replace the puppy per her contract with the lady, she wanted no part of it. Leslee was acting responsibly. She threatened to sue Leslee before anything else happened. I think Leslee has a right to defend herself and I have the right to voice my opinion just like this lady does. This opinion will be validated even further when this lady's vet report is posted later today. I don't need a valium, I have a Yorkie to love me~! I just want Leslee to have a fair shake. Without my postings you would have nothing else to balance out what she has said. Until you are attacked I guess you will not know how she has felt. The marble castle refers to someone off out of the situation with no connection to what has happened.....not that you are a well to do lawdy daw southern belle or anything like that!

08-01-2008, 08:32 AM	#26
tylermish YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: paterson, nj Posts: 4	Hate to tell you but I'm from New jersey as well and I bought a puppy from Missouri. Now MY breeder is an excellent breeder, but that's another thread in itself. I must tell you though that not only is my puppy perfectly healthy, he did NOT have coccidia even after being on the plane for several hours and coming to a new home. Sounds to me this pup was already sick before going to the new owner. I have to agree, this sound an awful lot like the breeder herself posting...LOL!

08-01-2008, 12:54 PM	#28
atchdca Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 15	Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 11 Definition of Slander -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Definition of Slander is : SLANDER - A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures) which injures the character or reputation of the person defamed; distinguished from libel. What I state is purely fact and in no way false! I bought a puppy from Leslee after driving out to Stroud and meeting the Sire and Dam as well, the names were Missy and Humper. My whole family sat in front of Leslee Mitchell's home visiting for a long time with the puppy we bought and the puppy you say is the littermate - who was Maisy at the time. We insisted on seeing the puppies living environment and we were told that Leslee just moved to Stroud from Weleetka and there were boxes everywhere in her house but she did say these were her home-raised pets and they were very well socialized in their family activities. When I brought the puppy to the vet the very next day I was told she had the Coccidia parasites and Patella Luxation, I notified Leslee before I even left the veterinarian office and she outright refused to take the puppy back for a refund. Yes, she offered the littermate in exchange but we did not decide on taking her because we did not think she was as cute and was bigger than the one we bought. We also made the decision we did not want to do further business with Leslee because she informed us the puppy was not vet checked, we were suprised learning that information because when I had asked if she was very healthy with her bite, back, and legs as well as being up to date on shots she said yes. The only reason your puppy came to you vet checked was because she had to take it to get treated for the Coccidia and see if she had the genetic knee disorder as well. I have attached the vet report for everyones review just to be sure there is no slander. Also, while you were visiting Leslee out in Stroud did you happen to get a tour of her kennel where she raises toy poodles, rat terriers, chihuahua's, and Border Collie's as well as the multiple dams of Yorkie's? I would not be surprised if you did not, because those are the real living conditions of where our puppies came from, not from the comfort of her home. I would have to admit Leslee was real good at portraying the perfect breeder image while we were at her home in Stroud, we absolutely got no indication of all these other dogs. Then again, who knows how far they are from the house since she has twenty acres to hide them on. Were you also aware that she is operating without a kennel license in the city limits of Stroud? Now, who is conducting Slander? I am only stating facts, what facts do you have about me when knowing nothing about me or this situation? Also, I am pasting a copy of an email Leslee sent to me in reply to our email showing we are doing homework on the diagnosis and were not happy, we just wanted a refund so we could find a healthy puppy. Just to let everyone know how professional Leslee is from what she states in her email, we are renting because my husband and I are in the process of building a home since we just moved to OKC ourselves. Just as a reminder - we were never told any policy prior to purchasing Daisy, we were told their would be a 1 year genetic health guarantee and that was it - which the Patella is genentic. Here is her "professional" email: From: "Steve and Leslee" <springhill@itlnet.net> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert Subject: Re: Coccidia Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:41:06 -0600 I am glad that you have done your homework!!!!! As I have stated before I give a one year genetic health gurantee. Liver, heart, kidneys and lungs, life threating. As I stated before I will be happy to replace your puppy. I will need you to mail me a copy of the vets report so I can have my vet look it over about the knees. I have been breeding for 7 years and I know all about what a good breeder is and I did not tell you must take within 48 or 72 hours your puppy to the vet for any kind of guarantee to be valid. If a puppy is going to have a genetic issue it will show up before the year!!! Alot of breeders MAKE you do that within their time frame, which alot of new owners do not, so they are not entilted to a refund. As I told you before I would be happy to replace with a different puppy when one becomes available or you can have Maisy. Yes the knees is genetic, but without an X-ray and of course having a second a opinion it what is needed. It does not mean that Maisy would have. And yes if it is confirmed that the puppy does have that then, you will need to find out if it is coming from moms line or dad's. But for 7 years I have not had a problem with the knees. You are not going to FORCE me to do anything. You really do not know as much as you think! Yes I send a nice care package with the puppies that I ship, I do not give them locally. I don't think that your grandmother is wanting to breed is she? I don't what you to have a puppy with a knee problem, and would not expect you to keep one with one, however your arguing, and trying to say that maybe I spent what you had paid me, highly insulted me, I am not the one that is renting am I???????? NO I have 3 houses asnd 200 acres! Glad we got that straight! IF would like to fax the documents to me let me know so that I can turn on my fax machine. Maybe you should have asked me alot more questions before you purchased Daisy. I will be happy to take Daisy back for you, but I will not refund any money. I will take Maisy to my vet and have her knees checked with health cert, should you decide to take her. Don't bother asking again for a refund, I will not change my mind, and I do have a whole book full of references to use if needed Thank You, Leslee Attached Thumbnails

08-01-2008, 01:11 PM	#29
atchdca Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 15	The vetts letter is in post 13 of this thread for those that are interested http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ables-com.html