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[YorkyDiva]

Originally Posted by SophieRose

FYI if you are selling your pups, then this thread belongs in a different section. "For Sale" Thanks, Deborah

SophieRose, it was not my intention to sell my puppies by starting this thread. If you didn't already read my first post, look and you will see.

[drawlins27]

Originally Posted by YorkyDiva

BRAVO to you for doing RESCUE! I see where you are coming from.
In reference to tinies: I see a few sites that advertise they do not breed for tiny ones but sometimes do have an occasional tiny. This statement scares me to death! Especially when you see the puppy and the whites of its eyes are prominent. They may not breed for tinies, but are these occasional ones actually "runt of the litter"? Which spells problems in some cases.

I know where a lot of runts have actually turned out to be the biggest when full grown so you have to look at more than just that. What you mentioned was a great example. When you can see the white in the inside corners of their eyes, this is most likely hydrocephalus A very horrible condition with poor prognosis.

[YorkyDiva]

Originally Posted by KathyinCali

I too am sorry you are being harrased.

When I came to YT I found the negative association with teacup interesting. When I was growing up, my mother always had "teacup" Chihuauas (sp) and what it meant (at least back then) was that it fit into a teacup when it was a baby. I remember this because when my mom brought her first one home it did fit in a teacup It was not associated with an idication as to how large it would be fully grown or anything of the sort and my mom's babies ranged in the 4-7 lbs. if I had to estimate.

It was only here that I understood what all the negative association was about and have formed my own opinion based on all that I have learned here.

I think that it is terrible to breed a tiny female solely for the purpose of getting a smaller sized litter weight and it seems the breeders I read on here are on top of their game knowing what they are doing so they don't breed a girl that is too tiny to birth a litter. However, I have also read posts here from people having no idea what they are doing, in a panic because their pregnant dog may be too small to birth the puppies that they allowed their dog to get pregnant with in the first place, nevermind all the emergency vet visits and sometimes death that comes with it. It breaks my heart.

I have always had large dogs, and I have to be honest when I say, sometimes I look at my lil' Lucy and I think OMG she would have the prettiest babies BUT I have no intention of having a batch up puppies just to fill my desire to be surrounded by baby Yorkies. I'll just have to get my fill with looking at all the precious ones on here coming from responsible, experienced breeders.

Yes, I agree and have had breeders call me asking what to do, what to do.
Simply: If you think there is a problem Get the dog to the vet. Don't wait! DO IT! In the first place, they should have verified the bloodlines of the sire and dam. But too late when the female is in labor.

[YorkieShadow]

Hi and welcome to YT.
I am so sorry you are being harassed, I would let admin know about the pm's
The picture On your website of your babys are so cute.
I also think that your prices are very high, But your not the first breeder with those prices. and its your own bussiness what you sell them for.
The word "teacup" Is just a word, It does not bother me one bit. Its just another word as small, toy, tinie. I would not remove it from my web-site just because others dont agree with it. The only Thing I didnt like is the breeding of a female smaller then 5 lbs. JMO and I would never do that. But each are own and just because we dont agree dont give us a right to be mean to you or anyone else and send you threatning pms.

[YorkyDiva]

Originally Posted by drawlins27

I know where a lot of runts have actually turned out to be the biggest when full grown so you have to look at more than just that. What you mentioned was a great example. When you can see the white in the inside corners of their eyes, this is most likely hydrocephalus A very horrible condition with poor prognosis.

I agree! Hydrocephalus and accompaning Hypoglycemia possibly.

[YorkyDiva]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

Hi and welcome to YT.
I am so sorry you are being harassed, I would let admin know about the pm's
The picture On your website of your babys are so cute.
I also think that your prices are very high, But your not the first breeder with those prices. and its your own bussiness what you sell them for.
The word "teacup" Is just a word, It does not bother me one bit. Its just another word as small, toy, tinie. I would not remove it from my web-site just because others dont agree with it. The only Thing I didnt like is the breeding of a female smaller then 5 lbs. JMO and I would never do that. But each are own and just because we dont agree dont give us a right to be mean to you or anyone else and send you threatning pms.

Thank you so much too and if I missed anyone, Please know that I am very grateful for the support.

And thanks also for all the PM's that everyone has sent in support.

[msodie]

They are soooo precious!

[YorkyDiva]

Originally Posted by msodie

They are soooo precious!

Thank you too!

[MyFairLacy]

I just saw on your "chocolate" page that you sell the pups with full registration. Why would you not sell them with limited registration so that they cannot be bred? Only those that are show quality should be sold with showing and breeding rights. But I guess since you don't show, you wouldn't know which ones are show quality and which aren't. I wouldn't want to chance selling a 2lb "teacup" puppy to someone who might breed it. Those tinies could die if bred. All reputable breeders sell their non-show quality puppies with limited registration. Reputable breeders want to protect their lines and the lives of their puppies.

[Sugar's Mom]

my fairlacy, every post you have made in this thread has been chocked full of misinformation. reputable breeders/show breeders wouldn't do this and wouldn't do that. You are very mistaken in thinking that all the dogs they sell are sold with limited registration. sure, that is the only way some will sell but to say that those that don't sell limited aren't reputable is just wrong. i have found that if you research, search and search you can find reputable show breeders that will sell with full rights. especially if you are willing to pay extra for those rights.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

i have found that if you research, search and search you can find reputable show breeders that will sell with full rights. especially if you are willing to pay extra for those rights.

So is that all it takes? Just fork over the extra money and the ethics go out the door? I would certainly hope that it would take more than a little extra money, no questions asked to get breeding rights from them. If that's the case, seems like their concern is more on their pockets than their dogs.

Of course there are exceptions--breeders willing to place dogs with the rights under the right circumstances, but not just as a general practice. I think that is what myfairlacey was getting at...those who do--or maybe I should say, those who won't do it--everyday without working out many fine details with the new owners first. I actually thought every post she made...all 2 of them...were pretty dead on accurate.

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

So is that all it takes? Just fork over the extra money and the ethics go out the door? I would certainly hope that it would take more than a little extra money, no questions asked to get breeding rights from them. If that's the case, seems like their concern is more on their pockets than their dogs.

Of course there are exceptions--breeders willing to place dogs with the rights under the right circumstances, but not just as a general practice. I think that is what myfairlacey was getting at...those who do--or maybe I should say, those who won't do it--everyday without working out many fine details with the new owners first. I actually thought every post she made...all 2 of them...were pretty dead on accurate.

It shouldn't take paying more to obtain full registration. Full registration should only come with a show quality dog that can be championed and then bred.

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

my fairlacy, every post you have made in this thread has been chocked full of misinformation. reputable breeders/show breeders wouldn't do this and wouldn't do that. You are very mistaken in thinking that all the dogs they sell are sold with limited registration. sure, that is the only way some will sell but to say that those that don't sell limited aren't reputable is just wrong. i have found that if you research, search and search you can find reputable show breeders that will sell with full rights. especially if you are willing to pay extra for those rights.

Maybe our definition of "reputable breeder" is different...

[YorkyDiva]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I just saw on your "chocolate" page that you sell the pups with full registration. Why would you not sell them with limited registration so that they cannot be bred? Only those that are show quality should be sold with showing and breeding rights. But I guess since you don't show, you wouldn't know which ones are show quality and which aren't. I wouldn't want to chance selling a 2lb "teacup" puppy to someone who might breed it. Those tinies could die if bred. All reputable breeders sell their non-show quality puppies with limited registration. Reputable breeders want to protect their lines and the lives of their puppies.

I don't want this to be an argument. I don't think we should say that "all" breeders should do this or not do that or that "all" show breeders do this or do that.
Why would I want to limit a puppy registration from 2 dogs that are exactly the same as the puppies whether petite type or chocolate color? Unless I felt the dog should not be bred because of its size or for fear maybe a novice breeder would get ahold of it and breed it to a Big dog.
But to group the whole breeder world into "Reputable breeders only do this and Reputable breeders only do that is a mis-statement in my opinion. I have met breeders who limit everything. So that does not make them reputable, just because they limit the papers. Do you see where I am going with this? I would think that a lot of limited papers are because a breeder is afraid of someone else breeding what they have and capitalizing on their lines. Some would say that is a form of greed.
And if you think that only dogs that are show quality should be bred, and it seems that you may think that only show breeders are the only reputable breeders around. then you are thinking with a very closed mind and do not know a lot of the breeders that I have became acquainted with over the years and yes, a few show breeders. I have tried to breed for quality always, just a bit smaller version and I love the chocolates. I would like to see them shown some day and have heard some breeders are requesting it.
Showing is not for everyone. But I do love the fine little show dogs and know that there is a tremendous amount of work involved and it is their life 24/7 just as my dogs are mine.

[YorkyDiva]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

my fairlacy, every post you have made in this thread has been chocked full of misinformation. reputable breeders/show breeders wouldn't do this and wouldn't do that. You are very mistaken in thinking that all the dogs they sell are sold with limited registration. sure, that is the only way some will sell but to say that those that don't sell limited aren't reputable is just wrong. i have found that if you research, search and search you can find reputable show breeders that will sell with full rights. especially if you are willing to pay extra for those rights.

Very well said!