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pang1982 · 07-13-2007, 09:47 AM

Is it okay to breed a non champion yorkie to a champion (bloodline) yorkie?

Or would it be looked at as if it was a wrong thing to do, even if you think both dogs would compliment each other?

Sugar's Mom · 07-13-2007, 10:13 AM

no doubt there will be show breeders on here that will say no. But, if they compliment each other and IF they have BOTH had all the required testing and IF you have researched breeding before you even start, I don't see anything wrong with it.

pang1982 · 07-13-2007, 10:16 AM

Dee,

I just clicked on your site and saw Renny! He's sooooo super duper cute!

Pang

P.S. Thanks for the advice...

Sugar's Mom · 07-13-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pang1982

Dee,

I just clicked on your site and saw Renny! He's sooooo super duper cute!

Pang

P.S. Thanks for the advice...

Thanks. he is going to be one of my studs when he gets older and I have all his testing done.

Patti · 07-13-2007, 11:13 AM

My Pixie has a champion Stardust father and a non champion Stardust mother .

pang1982 · 07-13-2007, 11:16 AM

see below...

pang1982 · 07-13-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

Thanks. he is going to be one of my studs when he gets older and I have all his testing done.

seeing that Renny came from Champion bloodlines, would you ever consider breeding to a NON-Champ? Just wondering...

Sugar's Mom · 07-13-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pang1982

seeing that Renny came from Champion bloodlines, would you ever consider breeding to a NON-Champ? Just wondering...

i intend to breed him to my Judabob girls next heat. They are not champions but from champion lines. renny has 68 champions between his mother and fathers four generation pedigrees and you can see how many show on his pedigree in the first three..

yorkiegirl2 · 07-13-2007, 11:32 AM

I agree with Dee if they compliment each other I don't see anything wrong with it. After all that is the point to improve.
I have one girl not that has 2-CH in the lines..
Ch Ru-Be's Special Feature and CH Judabob's Golden Sunshine but 5-6 gens back.
She is bred to a friend of mine's male that has the CH Windwood, CH Rothby,
CH Northshires, CH Altratam, CH Stardust lines. I hope to get something really nice out of her.
I plan to keep 1-2 pups out of her and I am trading a pup with another breeder friend of mine who had some Bluemist lines.

Mardelin · 07-13-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pang1982

Is it okay to breed a non champion yorkie to a champion (bloodline) yorkie?

Or would it be looked at as if it was a wrong thing to do, even if you think both dogs would compliment each other?

Not wrong to do. You should be more concerned as to what type of yorkies the dam produces.

YorkieRose · 07-13-2007, 12:32 PM

It is done all the time..infact there are far more champion males then females to start with...I would not breed a champion of any sex to one without a quality pedigree.

pang1982 · 07-13-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

It is done all the time..infact there are far more champion males then females to start with...I would not breed a champion of any sex to one without a quality pedigree.

okay so in saying that then, since mine is not from a champion bloodline (but she sure is full of CHAMPION to us!!!), then it's not ridiculous to choose a champion bloodline stud? they won't think I'm crazy?

YorkieRose · 07-13-2007, 12:47 PM

Many breeders with champion stud will not breed to a bitch with no pedigree (Pet pedigree) but if you have already discussed it with the breeder and they agree, by all means..go for it..the idea is to improve.

pang1982 · 07-13-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Many breeders with champion stud will not breed to a bitch with no pedigree (Pet pedigree) but if you have already discussed it with the breeder and they agree, by all means..go for it..the idea is to improve.

she does have a pedigree...and yes, she is registered...but i just don't want breeders to look at my ped and make a fool of me and my dog. And yes, it is to improve, not for MONEY!!! Thanks!

YorkieRose · 07-13-2007, 01:17 PM

When a breeder uses the term.."No pedigree"..it does not mean the dog does not actually have a pedigree..it means they have a "Pet Pedigree", a pet ped is one with no champions in the first 3 generation..past 3 gens really don't do much..and for future knowledge... A champion pedigree can be turned into a pet pedigree in one or two short generations.....and you can not turn pet pedigree into a champion pedigree by breeding to one champion...I applaud you for wanting to improve.

07-13-2007, 09:47 AM	#1
pang1982 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 73	Champion Yorkie to a NON Champion Yorkie? Is it okay to breed a non champion yorkie to a champion (bloodline) yorkie? Or would it be looked at as if it was a wrong thing to do, even if you think both dogs would compliment each other? __________________ BluePangTaylorTwix

07-13-2007, 10:13 AM	#2
Sugar's Mom BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,248	no doubt there will be show breeders on here that will say no. But, if they compliment each other and IF they have BOTH had all the required testing and IF you have researched breeding before you even start, I don't see anything wrong with it. Last edited by Sugar's Mom; 07-13-2007 at 10:16 AM.

07-13-2007, 10:16 AM	#3
pang1982 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 73	Dee, I just clicked on your site and saw Renny! He's sooooo super duper cute! Pang P.S. Thanks for the advice... __________________ BluePangTaylorTwix

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Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	My Pixie has a champion Stardust father and a non champion Stardust mother . __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

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pang1982 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 73	see below... __________________ BluePangTaylorTwix Last edited by pang1982; 07-13-2007 at 11:19 AM. Reason: forgot to put quote

07-13-2007, 11:32 AM	#9
yorkiegirl2 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,394	I agree with Dee if they compliment each other I don't see anything wrong with it. After all that is the point to improve. I have one girl not that has 2-CH in the lines.. Ch Ru-Be's Special Feature and CH Judabob's Golden Sunshine but 5-6 gens back. She is bred to a friend of mine's male that has the CH Windwood, CH Rothby, CH Northshires, CH Altratam, CH Stardust lines. I hope to get something really nice out of her. I plan to keep 1-2 pups out of her and I am trading a pup with another breeder friend of mine who had some Bluemist lines.

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YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	breeding It is done all the time..infact there are far more champion males then females to start with...I would not breed a champion of any sex to one without a quality pedigree.

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YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	stud Many breeders with champion stud will not breed to a bitch with no pedigree (Pet pedigree) but if you have already discussed it with the breeder and they agree, by all means..go for it..the idea is to improve.

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YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	pedigree When a breeder uses the term.."No pedigree"..it does not mean the dog does not actually have a pedigree..it means they have a "Pet Pedigree", a pet ped is one with no champions in the first 3 generation..past 3 gens really don't do much..and for future knowledge... A champion pedigree can be turned into a pet pedigree in one or two short generations.....and you can not turn pet pedigree into a champion pedigree by breeding to one champion...I applaud you for wanting to improve. Last edited by YorkieRose; 07-13-2007 at 01:19 PM.