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Kaluiah · 06-08-2005, 10:06 AM

I hear about scams like this everyday working in a bank. Can your bank trace the wire to see where it went to and who the account holder was.

senbal2005 · 06-08-2005, 01:39 PM

We used Western Union. I filed a report through Western Union and asked them where my money was cashed. WU told me that they money was cashed in San Diego but they can't tell me the exact location. They needed to be subpoena to release infos..

I hope that the San Diego authorities will look into this and update me about the case..

If this woman has tried to contact u or have scammed u, please file a report with IFCC and the San Diego police so that they'll pay more attention to it...

senbal2005 · 06-08-2005, 01:47 PM

By the way, be cautious of a seller who's email is @cox.net, Elizabeth Davis goes by different names and has many email addresses, but she always uses cox. She also gives addresses around in San Diego, like Chula Vista. Her puppy's name is Billie Jean, she's used this a couple of times. She sent me pictures that looked like they were professionally taken, it's too bad I don't know how to post it here.

Thank u for putting my posting up on top all the time...

SoCalyorkiLvr · 06-08-2005, 05:15 PM

Just a suggestion too to anyone reading this that it is best to use a "puppy escrow" when you have to pay for the puppy in advance. This will prevent most scams.

schatzie · 06-08-2005, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StewiesMom

Did you call the San Diego Police Department? You should do that ASAP. They will be able to point you in the right direction.

Good call!

schatzie · 06-08-2005, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

I live in San Diego and I am an attorney and would be happy to help in any way I can. Where are you located? I hate scam artists!

This is so generous of you to help out like this!!

snoody2004 · 06-08-2005, 06:32 PM

People are such scammers they just want the money$$$$$$$$

I am sorry for what has happened to you

babyparis · 06-08-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senbal2005

By the way, be cautious of a seller who's email is @cox.net, Elizabeth Davis goes by different names and has many email addresses, but she always uses cox. She also gives addresses around in San Diego, like Chula Vista. Her puppy's name is Billie Jean, she's used this a couple of times. She sent me pictures that looked like they were professionally taken, it's too bad I don't know how to post it here.

Thank u for putting my posting up on top all the time...

i was looking at next day pets and on page 6 there is a dog for 900 and the seller is a liz davis. it sounds like she is still out there scamming people. she offers the same discount as elizabeth davis. she gives a discount if u western union the money. it sounds kinda fishy to me. maybe u should contact next day pets again and let them know that she is still on there scamming people. i mean come on how dumb does she think we are liz davis, elizabeth davis

im sure that is the same woman.
here is a copy of the email she sent me. what a jerk.
From: Elizabeth Davis
Date: 05/10/05 14:28:16
To: jennaj52@msn.com
Subject: Re: Reply to Next Day Pets Listing: A.K.C. YORKIE FEMALE

Sally and daisy are still available.
They were born Feb. 1st and are A.K.C.
AND COME WITH A 1 YEAR HEALTH GUARANTEE.
I'll offer the same discount i did for my other buyer.
She is $700.00 plus 150.00 shipping
(no shipping if you pick up.)
money orders, cash and western union. If you cannot pick-up, you may opt
for
Western union and i will do free shipping to offset costs of sending
western union.
I use delta air to ship and puppy can be shipped as soon as next after
payemnt is received. Puppies are shipped to buyers nearest airport,
where
buyer must present identification to pick up puppy.
She will arrive with her A.K.C. papers, and vet records along with a free
puppy kit (includes ultra puppy dry) which she is currently eating now.
1 year health guarantee also offered.
Sincerely,
Elizabeth Davis

i hope this helps, oh by the way the email she used was buyalot818@cox.net so she does use cox to send her emails.

daisysmom · 06-08-2005, 08:12 PM

Maybe you could email her ISP and get them to at least shut down her internet connection/email.

"On their site it says....This Acceptable Use Policy (the "AUP") has been designed to protect our Service, our subscribers, and the Internet community, from inappropriate, illegal or otherwise objectionable activities. Please read this policy prior to accessing the Service. All users of the Service must abide by this AUP. Your violation of this AUP may result in the immediate suspension or termination of either your access to the Service and/or your Cox account. This AUP should be read in conjunction with our Internet Subscriber Agreement, Privacy Policy, and other applicable policies.

Prohibited Activities. You may not use the Service in a manner that violates any applicable local, state, federal or international law, order or regulation. Additionally, You may not use the Service to:

Conduct, participate in, or otherwise facilitate pyramid or other illegal soliciting schemes. "

You can Email: abuse@cox.net

Hope that helps...

mojo · 06-08-2005, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyparis

i was looking at next day pets and on page 6 there is a dog for 900 and the seller is a liz davis. it sounds like she is still out there scamming people. she offers the same discount as elizabeth davis. she gives a discount if u western union the money. it sounds kinda fishy to me. maybe u should contact next day pets again and let them know that she is still on there scamming people. i mean come on how dumb does she think we are liz davis, elizabeth davis

im sure that is the same woman.
here is a copy of the email she sent me. what a jerk.
From: Elizabeth Davis
Date: 05/10/05 14:28:16
To: jennaj52@msn.com
Subject: Re: Reply to Next Day Pets Listing: A.K.C. YORKIE FEMALE

Sally and daisy are still available.
They were born Feb. 1st and are A.K.C.
AND COME WITH A 1 YEAR HEALTH GUARANTEE.
I'll offer the same discount i did for my other buyer.
She is $700.00 plus 150.00 shipping
(no shipping if you pick up.)
money orders, cash and western union. If you cannot pick-up, you may opt
for
Western union and i will do free shipping to offset costs of sending
western union.
I use delta air to ship and puppy can be shipped as soon as next after
payemnt is received. Puppies are shipped to buyers nearest airport,
where
buyer must present identification to pick up puppy.
She will arrive with her A.K.C. papers, and vet records along with a free
puppy kit (includes ultra puppy dry) which she is currently eating now.
1 year health guarantee also offered.
Sincerely,
Elizabeth Davis

i hope this helps, oh by the way the email she used was buyalot818@cox.net so she does use cox to send her emails.

Couldn't you contact her (under different name/account) and arrange to pick up a pup in person as she states that is allowed. You could see what she says, perhaps meet her and call police or something.??.
I am soooo against next day pets

babyparis · 06-08-2005, 08:41 PM

well if it helps, but i just emailed senbal with all the info. but i guess it doesnt hurt to try. i am also against next day pets, ever since i saw this thread. i was on it today looking for that witch and i think i found her. with the email she sennt me and the description in next day pets it really does sound like her, dont u think?

fasteddie · 06-08-2005, 08:48 PM

Yes, please be VERY VERY careful sending money via Western Union. Often times there is no recourse if the person is a scammer. Thanks for the heads-up on this person!

senbal2005 · 06-09-2005, 02:28 PM

I've filed a complaint with cox and I haven't gotten a reply from them...I don't know what else to do. Do I need a lawyer? What can a lawyer do for me, and would it cost me a lot? Please inform me.

I assume it will take some time for the reports that I filed with IFCC to get to the detective who takes care of internet frauds. (I've file reports with Western Union, Petsell.com, puppyfind.com,nextdaypets.com,Ct general atty and San Diego Police)

Again, she's still using the same name and she has different emails through cox.net. For those ppl who are getting emails from her, please file a report with the San Diego Police or IFCC, I need some help from u guys...Thanks.

Hope she can be caught soon, I don't think I'll ever get my money back, but I'll be helping lots of ppl..

By the way, I called my phone company and asked if they have any info on her 'cause her number did register on our caller ID when she called me, my phone carrier said she used Pacific Bell and that they will have her infos. I've been trying to get Pacific Bell's number but cannot find it, does anyone know.

I'll keep everyone updated...............Hoping for good news soon!

StewiesMom · 06-09-2005, 02:44 PM

the American Bar Association requires lawyers practicing in the US to donate some of their time for free. Though this is not enforced (i.e. checked-up on), maybe you can find someone who is willing to donate their time to you. A friend or friend of a friend? Law students in your area? A Yorkie Talk lawyer?

Kelz · 06-09-2005, 03:04 PM

everytime i read this thread i get more and more angry! i honestly can't understand how people can scam other people!!

06-08-2005, 06:32 PM	#37
snoody2004 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: YT! Posts: 548	People are such scammers they just want the money$$$$$$$$I am sorry for what has happened to you __________________

06-08-2005, 08:12 PM	#39
daisysmom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 183	Maybe you could email her ISP and get them to at least shut down her internet connection/email. "On their site it says....This Acceptable Use Policy (the "AUP") has been designed to protect our Service, our subscribers, and the Internet community, from inappropriate, illegal or otherwise objectionable activities. Please read this policy prior to accessing the Service. All users of the Service must abide by this AUP. Your violation of this AUP may result in the immediate suspension or termination of either your access to the Service and/or your Cox account. This AUP should be read in conjunction with our Internet Subscriber Agreement, Privacy Policy, and other applicable policies. Prohibited Activities. You may not use the Service in a manner that violates any applicable local, state, federal or international law, order or regulation. Additionally, You may not use the Service to: Conduct, participate in, or otherwise facilitate pyramid or other illegal soliciting schemes. " You can Email: abuse@cox.net Hope that helps... __________________ Jules The Yorkie Bunch Pochi Choppi Daisy and Meeju too

06-08-2005, 08:48 PM	#42
fasteddie *YT 6000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,238	Yes, please be VERY VERY careful sending money via Western Union. Often times there is no recourse if the person is a scammer. Thanks for the heads-up on this person! __________________ YODA & WINKY R ::: RIP Winky ::: RIP Yoda!

06-09-2005, 02:44 PM	#44
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	the American Bar Association requires lawyers practicing in the US to donate some of their time for free. Though this is not enforced (i.e. checked-up on), maybe you can find someone who is willing to donate their time to you. A friend or friend of a friend? Law students in your area? A Yorkie Talk lawyer? __________________ Kristy & Stewie

06-09-2005, 03:04 PM	#45
Kelz YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Yukon, ok Posts: 2,885	everytime i read this thread i get more and more angry! i honestly can't understand how people can scam other people!! __________________ Kelly- momma to Parker, Star,Zoe, & Kegan.. RIP Silly Lily OK Yorkie Rescue - http://okyorkierescue.org

06-08-2005, 10:06 AM	#31
Kaluiah Ramsey little Devil in disguise Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here Posts: 985	I hear about scams like this everyday working in a bank. Can your bank trace the wire to see where it went to and who the account holder was.

06-08-2005, 01:39 PM	#32
senbal2005 Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17	We used Western Union. I filed a report through Western Union and asked them where my money was cashed. WU told me that they money was cashed in San Diego but they can't tell me the exact location. They needed to be subpoena to release infos.. I hope that the San Diego authorities will look into this and update me about the case.. If this woman has tried to contact u or have scammed u, please file a report with IFCC and the San Diego police so that they'll pay more attention to it...

06-08-2005, 01:47 PM	#33
senbal2005 Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17	By the way, be cautious of a seller who's email is @cox.net, Elizabeth Davis goes by different names and has many email addresses, but she always uses cox. She also gives addresses around in San Diego, like Chula Vista. Her puppy's name is Billie Jean, she's used this a couple of times. She sent me pictures that looked like they were professionally taken, it's too bad I don't know how to post it here. Thank u for putting my posting up on top all the time...

06-08-2005, 05:15 PM	#34
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Just a suggestion too to anyone reading this that it is best to use a "puppy escrow" when you have to pay for the puppy in advance. This will prevent most scams.

06-08-2005, 08:41 PM	#41
babyparis Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: palestine, tx Posts: 145	well if it helps, but i just emailed senbal with all the info. but i guess it doesnt hurt to try. i am also against next day pets, ever since i saw this thread. i was on it today looking for that witch and i think i found her. with the email she sennt me and the description in next day pets it really does sound like her, dont u think?

06-09-2005, 02:28 PM	#43
senbal2005 Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17	I've filed a complaint with cox and I haven't gotten a reply from them...I don't know what else to do. Do I need a lawyer? What can a lawyer do for me, and would it cost me a lot? Please inform me. I assume it will take some time for the reports that I filed with IFCC to get to the detective who takes care of internet frauds. (I've file reports with Western Union, Petsell.com, puppyfind.com,nextdaypets.com,Ct general atty and San Diego Police) Again, she's still using the same name and she has different emails through cox.net. For those ppl who are getting emails from her, please file a report with the San Diego Police or IFCC, I need some help from u guys...Thanks. Hope she can be caught soon, I don't think I'll ever get my money back, but I'll be helping lots of ppl.. By the way, I called my phone company and asked if they have any info on her 'cause her number did register on our caller ID when she called me, my phone carrier said she used Pacific Bell and that they will have her infos. I've been trying to get Pacific Bell's number but cannot find it, does anyone know. I'll keep everyone updated...............Hoping for good news soon!