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jacky · 05-09-2007, 07:01 AM

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated-Mahatma Gandhi

ARCHIE · 05-09-2007, 07:08 AM

My opinion on this matter is:

I can't blame the breeders of these designer dogs. They breed because, yes
there's money to be made from people who want them. My son has one
and paid $1,000.00 for Charger who is a cavapoo. Mother a king charles
cavalier spaniel and father a mini poodle.

I don't think that this is where the problem lies. Charger will have a loving home forever, however, it's the people who buy the dogs that become the problem.
Weather a prue breed or a designer dog or just a mix from a neighbor
if the person decides the pet is not longer wanted off to the pound it
goes.

The blame for over population in the pounds in general, belongs
to the "HUMANS" who no longer have need for the free or big bucks
dog! IMO

jacky · 05-09-2007, 07:17 AM

as far as designer dogs, ive got some IDEAs! lol

Spitz + Chow Chow
SPITZ-CHOW, A dog that throws up a lot
Pointer + Setter
POINTSETTER, a traditional Christmas pet
Samoyed + Norwich Terrier
SAMWICH, very handy, tasty breed.
Pekingese + Dachshund
PEKING DACH, owned by Chinese restaurateurs.
Poodle + Great Pyrenees
POOPYREE, a dog that smells good.
Smooth Fox Terrier + Chow Chow
SMOOCH, a dog who loves to kiss.
Airedale + Spaniel
AIREL, a dog that brings in good TV reception.
Kerry Blue Terrier + Skye Terrier
BLUE SKYE, a dog for visionaries
Great Pyrenees + Dachshund
PYRADACHS, a puzzling breed
Pekingese + Lhasa Apso
PEEKASSO, an abstract dog
Keeshound + Setter
KEESTER, you can't get this dog off its duff.
Chihuahua + Whippet
CHIAPET, order from TV ad, 3 for $19.95.
Boxer + German Shorthaired
BOXER SHORTS, a dog never seen in public.
Basenji + Schipperke
BASERKE, a dog that's mad most of the time.
Irish Water Spaniel + English Springer Spaniel
IRISH SPRINGER, a dog fresh and clean as a whistle
Labrador Retriever + Curly Coated Retriever
LAB COAT RETRIEVER, the choice of research scientists
Newfoundland + Basset Hound
NEWFOUND ASSET HOUND, a dog for financial advisors
Terrier + Bulldog
TERRIBULL, a dog that makes awful mistakes
Bloodhound + Labrador
BLABADOR, a dog that barks incessantly
Malamute + Pointer
MOOT POINT owned by.... Oh, well, it doesn't matter anyway
Collie + Lhasa Apso
COLLAPSO, a dog that folds up for easy transport
Collie + Malamute
COMMUTE, a dog that travels to work
Deerhound + Terrier
DERRIERE, a dog that's true to the end
Cocker Spaniel + Rottweiller
COCKROT, the perfect puppy for that philandering ex-husband
Bull Terrier + s**tzu
BULLs**tZ, a gregarious but unreliable breed

ashley809 · 05-09-2007, 07:24 AM

I have a half Yorkie and half Maltese and I adore her!! I wanted a Maltese but did not want to deal with the high maintenance white coat. And since I love Yorkies obviously as well I decided what a great way to get the traits I love about the Maltese and Yorkie all in 1 dog

As far as the shelter goes..I have adopted in the past and I donate the our local shelter. I think adopting is wonderful!! HOWEVER...when adopting a mix from a shelter...how do you know what breeds you are getting? A lot of times you do not. A lot of breeds have their own personality traits and I think for ME it was important knowing what breed my new addition was.

tammy8833 · 05-09-2007, 07:30 AM

i didnt read all the post because there are some many but
the only small breeds you find in va are sick or old

i work at a shelter in va in that 2 years we had one yorkie poo who never made it to the list

and about people mixing to mix, yes there are people who do that but there are people who are working on the next breed

the information came from AKC how can i go wrong there?? and every other bit of info found basically said the same..so the yorkie which i adore did come from people experimenting and mixing. im not jusifying me doing the same thing but the real problem isnt the breeder its the people wanting them and paying the money for them, the breeders are keeping up with the demand basically.

there is nothing wrong with mixing, because people want the small mixed breeds, its the two mutts on the street like a lab/shep and a rotti/pit mixing that is holding spots in our kennels and people really dont want that heinz 57. people what the cute and cuddle pup that looks like a puppy always

and no if i paid $$ or more for a dog and for some reason i cant keep im finding a good home and trying to get some of the money back, im not giving anything way for free, this world is too exspensive for that. i would ask for porbably half of what i paid, which would not include the other money invovled like vaccines and toys and care. even if i got it for free i would ask an adoption fee.
adoption agencies are great but, for example the one i have worked with is too strict and a lot of other agencies are the same, and they push potential customers away

jeanief · 05-09-2007, 07:37 AM

Jacky, some of those names are sooooo funny!! LOL

JESSY_RN2B · 05-09-2007, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacky

as far as designer dogs, ive got some IDEAs! lol

Spitz + Chow Chow
SPITZ-CHOW, A dog that throws up a lot
Pointer + Setter
POINTSETTER, a traditional Christmas pet
Samoyed + Norwich Terrier
SAMWICH, very handy, tasty breed.
Pekingese + Dachshund
PEKING DACH, owned by Chinese restaurateurs.
Poodle + Great Pyrenees
POOPYREE, a dog that smells good.
Smooth Fox Terrier + Chow Chow
SMOOCH, a dog who loves to kiss.
Airedale + Spaniel
AIREL, a dog that brings in good TV reception.
Kerry Blue Terrier + Skye Terrier
BLUE SKYE, a dog for visionaries
Great Pyrenees + Dachshund
PYRADACHS, a puzzling breed
Pekingese + Lhasa Apso
PEEKASSO, an abstract dog
Keeshound + Setter
KEESTER, you can't get this dog off its duff.
Chihuahua + Whippet
CHIAPET, order from TV ad, 3 for $19.95.
Boxer + German Shorthaired
BOXER SHORTS, a dog never seen in public.
Basenji + Schipperke
BASERKE, a dog that's mad most of the time.
Irish Water Spaniel + English Springer Spaniel
IRISH SPRINGER, a dog fresh and clean as a whistle
Labrador Retriever + Curly Coated Retriever
LAB COAT RETRIEVER, the choice of research scientists
Newfoundland + Basset Hound
NEWFOUND ASSET HOUND, a dog for financial advisors
Terrier + Bulldog
TERRIBULL, a dog that makes awful mistakes
Bloodhound + Labrador
BLABADOR, a dog that barks incessantly
Malamute + Pointer
MOOT POINT owned by.... Oh, well, it doesn't matter anyway
Collie + Lhasa Apso
COLLAPSO, a dog that folds up for easy transport
Collie + Malamute
COMMUTE, a dog that travels to work
Deerhound + Terrier
DERRIERE, a dog that's true to the end
Cocker Spaniel + Rottweiller
COCKROT, the perfect puppy for that philandering ex-husband
Bull Terrier + s**tzu
BULLs**tZ, a gregarious but unreliable breed

Loved it!

Mardelin · 05-09-2007, 07:46 AM

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the information came from AKC how can i go wrong

Yes, it is not an entirely correct. AKC though a wonderful registry, it is just that a registry.

Go to the YTCA.org site and see the History of the Yorkshire Terrier as studied, written and published by one of the Yorkshire Terrier Matriarchs. The Standard was written by the YTCA and adopted by the AKC.

tiggerr36792 · 05-09-2007, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorraine

It takes dedication, dog fanciers that have committed their effort for any of the purebred breeds to be developed.
They did not come about by taking a maltese breeding to a Yorkie calling it a yorkese or whatever the heck you want to call it.
It took many years, keeping records and all wtih a certain dog in mind that when it was finally produced you could breed it and it would breed true over time and generations.
You don't get dogs that breed true when you mix two or more breeds and get puppies and breed those, call it whatever designer breed comes to mind and sell puppies at some inflated price as rare.
Get a book about the various breeds that breeders have developed and you will find how it was done.
Breeding because they sell is not really the best reason in the world to breed.

Well said!!!!

tammy8833 · 05-09-2007, 10:22 AM

Ytca explains that they were mixed with the danidimont and maltese

but with old english terrier and clydesdale terriers, which are no longer in existance..they were still mixed which is the point that im trying to get across...all the groups on that explain yorkie history throw in something different but the end result was the same they mixed dogs to get a desired trait and bred down for smaller sizes.

tammy8833 · 05-09-2007, 10:23 AM

correction ytce explains they were NOT mixed with

Anna Banana · 05-09-2007, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tammy8833

Ytca explains that they were mixed with the danidimont and maltese

but with old english terrier and clydesdale terriers, which are no longer in existance..they were still mixed which is the point that im trying to get across...all the groups on that explain yorkie history throw in something different but the end result was the same they mixed dogs to get a desired trait and bred down for smaller sizes.

Exactly. No one is contesting or arguing this fact. Everyone knows, this, as is apparent by the first posts alone. What the reputable breeders, and those that support their vision of the yorkie are arguing is that the development of the yorkie was the result of planned intentions of breeders to take the best characteristics of different breeds. This is a far cry from taking a yorkie and a maltese, for example, and selling it as a 'new designer breed' for as much money as the "breeder" can get from it.

05-09-2007, 07:01 AM	#31
jacky YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami Posts: 308	The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated-Mahatma Gandhi __________________ Still looking for my perfect puppy My myspace <3

05-09-2007, 07:17 AM	#33
jacky YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami Posts: 308	as far as designer dogs, ive got some IDEAs! lol Spitz + Chow Chow SPITZ-CHOW, A dog that throws up a lot Pointer + Setter POINTSETTER, a traditional Christmas pet Samoyed + Norwich Terrier SAMWICH, very handy, tasty breed. Pekingese + Dachshund PEKING DACH, owned by Chinese restaurateurs. Poodle + Great Pyrenees POOPYREE, a dog that smells good. Smooth Fox Terrier + Chow Chow SMOOCH, a dog who loves to kiss. Airedale + Spaniel AIREL, a dog that brings in good TV reception. Kerry Blue Terrier + Skye Terrier BLUE SKYE, a dog for visionaries Great Pyrenees + Dachshund PYRADACHS, a puzzling breed Pekingese + Lhasa Apso PEEKASSO, an abstract dog Keeshound + Setter KEESTER, you can't get this dog off its duff. Chihuahua + Whippet CHIAPET, order from TV ad, 3 for $19.95. Boxer + German Shorthaired BOXER SHORTS, a dog never seen in public. Basenji + Schipperke BASERKE, a dog that's mad most of the time. Irish Water Spaniel + English Springer Spaniel IRISH SPRINGER, a dog fresh and clean as a whistle Labrador Retriever + Curly Coated Retriever LAB COAT RETRIEVER, the choice of research scientists Newfoundland + Basset Hound NEWFOUND ASSET HOUND, a dog for financial advisors Terrier + Bulldog TERRIBULL, a dog that makes awful mistakes Bloodhound + Labrador BLABADOR, a dog that barks incessantly Malamute + Pointer MOOT POINT owned by.... Oh, well, it doesn't matter anyway Collie + Lhasa Apso COLLAPSO, a dog that folds up for easy transport Collie + Malamute COMMUTE, a dog that travels to work Deerhound + Terrier DERRIERE, a dog that's true to the end Cocker Spaniel + Rottweiller COCKROT, the perfect puppy for that philandering ex-husband Bull Terrier + stzu BULLstZ, a gregarious but unreliable breed __________________ Still looking for my perfect puppy My myspace <3

05-09-2007, 07:24 AM	#34
ashley809 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my own little world!! Posts: 733	I have a half Yorkie and half Maltese and I adore her!! I wanted a Maltese but did not want to deal with the high maintenance white coat. And since I love Yorkies obviously as well I decided what a great way to get the traits I love about the Maltese and Yorkie all in 1 dog As far as the shelter goes..I have adopted in the past and I donate the our local shelter. I think adopting is wonderful!! HOWEVER...when adopting a mix from a shelter...how do you know what breeds you are getting? A lot of times you do not. A lot of breeds have their own personality traits and I think for ME it was important knowing what breed my new addition was. Last edited by ashley809; 05-09-2007 at 07:27 AM.

05-09-2007, 07:30 AM	#35
tammy8833 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,775	i didnt read all the post because there are some many but the only small breeds you find in va are sick or old i work at a shelter in va in that 2 years we had one yorkie poo who never made it to the list and about people mixing to mix, yes there are people who do that but there are people who are working on the next breed the information came from AKC how can i go wrong there?? and every other bit of info found basically said the same..so the yorkie which i adore did come from people experimenting and mixing. im not jusifying me doing the same thing but the real problem isnt the breeder its the people wanting them and paying the money for them, the breeders are keeping up with the demand basically. there is nothing wrong with mixing, because people want the small mixed breeds, its the two mutts on the street like a lab/shep and a rotti/pit mixing that is holding spots in our kennels and people really dont want that heinz 57. people what the cute and cuddle pup that looks like a puppy always and no if i paid $$ or more for a dog and for some reason i cant keep im finding a good home and trying to get some of the money back, im not giving anything way for free, this world is too exspensive for that. i would ask for porbably half of what i paid, which would not include the other money invovled like vaccines and toys and care. even if i got it for free i would ask an adoption fee. adoption agencies are great but, for example the one i have worked with is too strict and a lot of other agencies are the same, and they push potential customers away __________________ Tammy YT Gallery Lil Girl Princess & Theodore *Gidget R.I.P**

05-09-2007, 10:22 AM	#40
tammy8833 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,775	Ytca explains that they were mixed with the danidimont and maltese but with old english terrier and clydesdale terriers, which are no longer in existance..they were still mixed which is the point that im trying to get across...all the groups on that explain yorkie history throw in something different but the end result was the same they mixed dogs to get a desired trait and bred down for smaller sizes. __________________ Tammy YT Gallery Lil Girl Princess & Theodore *Gidget R.I.P**

05-09-2007, 07:08 AM	#32
ARCHIE No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 16,218	My opinion on this matter is: I can't blame the breeders of these designer dogs. They breed because, yes there's money to be made from people who want them. My son has one and paid $1,000.00 for Charger who is a cavapoo. Mother a king charles cavalier spaniel and father a mini poodle. I don't think that this is where the problem lies. Charger will have a loving home forever, however, it's the people who buy the dogs that become the problem. Weather a prue breed or a designer dog or just a mix from a neighbor if the person decides the pet is not longer wanted off to the pound it goes. The blame for over population in the pounds in general, belongs to the "HUMANS" who no longer have need for the free or big bucks dog! IMO

05-09-2007, 07:37 AM	#36
jeanief YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 307	Jacky, some of those names are sooooo funny!! LOL

05-09-2007, 10:23 AM	#41
tammy8833 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,775	correction ytce explains they were NOT mixed with __________________ Tammy YT Gallery Lil Girl Princess & Theodore *Gidget R.I.P**