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melmel84 · 04-03-2007, 08:53 AM

Hi guys, I am going to stud my baby out this weekend for the first time and am looking for any suggestions that you may have to make this a smooth experience. I welcome any and all of experiences that you've had or have heard of that make it successful on our side as well as the mommies side becuase this is going to be a first time mommy as well and me and the dams owner are kindof learning together, so please help yorkietalkers!

topknot · 04-03-2007, 10:16 AM

Okay, are you ready? Are you ready for all the responsibility that you have placed on yourself and your future baby's daddy? Have you all had each one tested for Liver Shunts, STD's, and how are their petellas and other organs (heart, eyes, teeth, etc..) ? Because these future babies will carry the genes that each parent has. I know you would not want a pup to struggle and then not make it, or have to have an expensive operation just to live a good life. I know... this all sounds weird. But facts are facts. Both you and the owner of the bitch are 100% responsible for bringing into this world this litter you will produce. Okay! (It just sounded like from your post both of you do not have a clue, but plan to breed your two yorkies together)!

If you have done all the above testing and these two are great specimans of the yorkie standard and you know since you have had others checked them out (judges, yorkie breeders/exhibitors, you know... people that know the standard). And do you know the sire's and dam's pedigrees very well and will make great matches?

If you have no clue - don't do it!!

If you have had everything checked out as a reputable breeder would have done...Well, do you have a good contract??? Always have everything in writing.

You may have some problems breeding anyways - since it is their first time each.
T.

topknot · 04-03-2007, 10:22 AM

I see from your profile that you are working on your "Breeding Business." So I am sure you know what to do and have done all the required tests.
T.

Mardelin · 04-03-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by melmel84

Hi guys, I am going to stud my baby out this weekend for the first time and am looking for any suggestions that you may have to make this a smooth experience. I welcome any and all of experiences that you've had or have heard of that make it successful on our side as well as the mommies side becuase this is going to be a first time mommy as well and me and the dams owner are kindof learning together, so please help yorkietalkers!

There are other threads about stud service on YT.....Remember you are responsible for this litter too, taking puppies back if new owners need to rehome them, etc.

Do your homework on responsible breeding is the best advice I can offer. And have a written agreement between you and the female's owner. Leave nothing out, think of everything and add it to the contract. There is another person on YT that had a verbal.....guess what the owner of the female decided she wants to keep the only female in the litter; the agreement was to give the stud owner pic of the litter.

topknot · 04-03-2007, 10:28 AM

Mardelin - You can word it so much better than I can.
T.

sylvan · 04-03-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by topknot

Mardelin - You can word it so much better than I can.
T.

I think you both did pretty well....

lisatodd · 04-03-2007, 12:03 PM

just a few other things to add....what if the bitch doesn't get preg?? .... do you know what to do when they tie? how to hold them?
see it is hard for us to give advise if you don't tell us how much you know.
i have studded much long than breeding. for me, studding a dog is much harder than breeding and a lot of responsibility.
like what was said above. these puppies are your resp as well. hopefully you are studding a bitch from a responsible breeder....if not, you will need to be there to help with the whelping...

ok i am going to stop. you tell us what you know and maybe we can add something.

but the most important thing is the TESTING....IS YOUR STUD TO THE STANDARD? AND IS THE BITCH TO THE STANDARD?

PLEASE BE A RESPONSIBLE BREEDER. THERE ARE TOO MANY YORKIES OUT THERE THAT ARE BRED JUST TO BE BRED AND COME IN ALL DIFFERENT SIZED AND LOOKS.
DO THE RIGHT THING

HighlandYorkies · 04-03-2007, 12:19 PM

Happy Healthy Mum and Dad make happy, healthy puppies - breed standard is what some require, but in my book, happy and healthy is the most important ingredient as every type and size of Yorkie has it's place.....even the non-show standard puppies for pets.

Read up as much as you can, and ask others for help and advice, and you'll be fine.
My bitch and dog have just bred for the first time, and all went fine......He didn't like being watched, as he was shy, but I watched discreetly so I could be there for any tie, or problem, and it was fine.

Make sure you and your friend have a market for the pups, and make sure and check up that they go to good homes only.....be ready to keep any that you can't home.

Debra x x x x

picture of my three babies, Tara, Casper(dad), Tammy(mum-to-be)

melmel84 · 04-03-2007, 12:23 PM

Ok. I should have stated I have researched researched researched, tested tested tested. My dog and the dam that are breeding I truley believe are going to better the breed and possibly even produce show pups as well as perfect pets for anyone, both are such sweetie pies~

. Now I just want to know if there are any tips or advice that anyone can give me. I wouldnt be studding my baby if I hadn't have done the research, testing etc. I know I have seen plenty of people breeding dogs that shouldn't be, but everyone has got to start somewhere and tips from fellow yorkie yakers I believe will help me my first time through.

Ps the dam's owner has done alot of research as well and we are working together to go through the motions of our first time.

PSS~ I am going to be there for the whelping (especially if the other owner needs help), I can't miss my baby becoming a daddy!

Mardelin · 04-03-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by melmel84

Ok. I should have stated I have researched researched researched, tested tested tested. My dog and the dam that are breeding I truley believe are going to better the breed and possibly even produce show pups as well as perfect pets for anyone, both are such sweetie pies~

. Now I just want to know if there are any tips or advice that anyone can give me. I wouldnt be studding my baby if I hadn't have done the research, testing etc. I know I have seen plenty of people breeding dogs that shouldn't be, but everyone has got to start somewhere and tips from fellow yorkie yakers I believe will help me my first time through.

Ps the dam's owner has done alot of research as well and we are working together to go through the motions of our first time.

PSS~ I am going to be there for the whelping (especially if the other owner needs help), I can't miss my baby becoming a daddy!

You didn't mention that you've done all the research. Thanks for clarifying.

One more thing to remember, if anything goes wrong with this litter, health issues......99% of the time the stud is blamed.

melmel84 · 04-03-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HighlandYorkies

Happy Healthy Mum and Dad make happy, healthy puppies - breed standard is what some require, but in my book, happy and healthy is the most important ingredient as every type and size of Yorkie has it's place.....even the non-show standard puppies for pets.

Read up as much as you can, and ask others for help and advice, and you'll be fine.
My bitch and dog have just bred for the first time, and all went fine......He didn't like being watched, as he was shy, but I watched discreetly so I could be there for any tie, or problem, and it was fine.

Make sure you and your friend have a market for the pups, and make sure and check up that they go to good homes only.....be ready to keep any that you can't home.

Debra x x x x

picture of my three babies, Tara, Casper(dad), Tammy(mum-to-be)

Beautiful babies! I was actually hoping to have pick of litter but the other owner already had people interested (friends, family, etc) I told her if there were any, even more than one that couldnt find homes I would take them in a heartbeat and welcome them to my family! I would love to have one of Tino's babies, but it is truley hard to find a dams mommy who wants to give any up. I only deal with people who are doing this for good reasons and that usually means that there are no babies left for me~ But on the bright side I get to have lots of pictures and hear about different joys and stories that people have had from the puppies that Tino made...thats why I am so interested in breeding these little guys. I personally don't have a dam becuase I dont know if I could actually give any of the pups up after spending so much time with them, being on the daddy side helps me not get so attatched but still reep the benefits of bringing bundles of joy to the world.

lisatodd · 04-03-2007, 01:07 PM

ok...so what you are saying is you and the other lady have never studded or whelped a litter?
WOW....that is taking on alot.
there is so much to say but no one can write everything.
so what research?? you are still leaving it opened...
let us know what questions you might have. by doing the research, you should know alot.
what questions are in your head?

also.....i would never never take a pick of a litter. what if they only have one which is commom with yorkies?
i would always get a stud fee.

Mardelin · 04-03-2007, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisatodd

ok...so what you are saying is you and the other lady have never studded or whelped a litter?
WOW....that is taking on alot.
there is so much to say but no one can write everything.
so what research?? you are still leaving it opened...
let us know what questions you might have. by doing the research, you should know alot.
what questions are in your head?

also.....i would never never take a pick of a litter. what if they only have one which is commom with yorkies?
i would always get a stud fee.

Pick of the litter, is questionable....I would prefer stud fee as my kennel size must be kept to a manageable level. However, when I've used an outside stud, and only had 1 female, the stud owner usually tells me that they'll wait till the next litter.

HighlandYorkies · 04-03-2007, 01:42 PM

Thanks for saying you like my babies.
Yes, I might well just keep them all too.....I think she only has one bigger and one small in there anyway, so that wouldn't be hard ! I will be very fond of any she produces, and I intend to keep at least one

YorkieRose · 04-03-2007, 01:45 PM

Best Wishes..you remind me of a friend...
She decided to breed, she used one of my males. Got a nice litter of 3...her mother lived with her and when time came to place the pups both couldn't bare the thought of them going..so they kept all three. They had promised friends a chance to get a puppy, so they decided to breed the bitch at her next heat...again, a nice litter of 3...again, they could not part with them at the last moment..so in one year they went from 1 Yorkie to 7, but the they were very happy...and I might add, they had the bitch spayed.

04-03-2007, 08:53 AM	#1
melmel84 YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Syracuse Posts: 425	Help first time stud advice!!!! Hi guys, I am going to stud my baby out this weekend for the first time and am looking for any suggestions that you may have to make this a smooth experience. I welcome any and all of experiences that you've had or have heard of that make it successful on our side as well as the mommies side becuase this is going to be a first time mommy as well and me and the dams owner are kindof learning together, so please help yorkietalkers! __________________ Melissa, Tino & Remy

04-03-2007, 10:16 AM	#2
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	Okay, are you ready? Are you ready for all the responsibility that you have placed on yourself and your future baby's daddy? Have you all had each one tested for Liver Shunts, STD's, and how are their petellas and other organs (heart, eyes, teeth, etc..) ? Because these future babies will carry the genes that each parent has. I know you would not want a pup to struggle and then not make it, or have to have an expensive operation just to live a good life. I know... this all sounds weird. But facts are facts. Both you and the owner of the bitch are 100% responsible for bringing into this world this litter you will produce. Okay! (It just sounded like from your post both of you do not have a clue, but plan to breed your two yorkies together)! If you have done all the above testing and these two are great specimans of the yorkie standard and you know since you have had others checked them out (judges, yorkie breeders/exhibitors, you know... people that know the standard). And do you know the sire's and dam's pedigrees very well and will make great matches? If you have no clue - don't do it!! If you have had everything checked out as a reputable breeder would have done...Well, do you have a good contract??? Always have everything in writing. You may have some problems breeding anyways - since it is their first time each. T. Last edited by topknot; 04-03-2007 at 10:20 AM.

04-03-2007, 12:03 PM	#7
lisatodd Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va Posts: 4,460	just a few other things to add....what if the bitch doesn't get preg?? .... do you know what to do when they tie? how to hold them? see it is hard for us to give advise if you don't tell us how much you know. i have studded much long than breeding. for me, studding a dog is much harder than breeding and a lot of responsibility. like what was said above. these puppies are your resp as well. hopefully you are studding a bitch from a responsible breeder....if not, you will need to be there to help with the whelping... ok i am going to stop. you tell us what you know and maybe we can add something. but the most important thing is the TESTING....IS YOUR STUD TO THE STANDARD? AND IS THE BITCH TO THE STANDARD? PLEASE BE A RESPONSIBLE BREEDER. THERE ARE TOO MANY YORKIES OUT THERE THAT ARE BRED JUST TO BE BRED AND COME IN ALL DIFFERENT SIZED AND LOOKS. DO THE RIGHT THING __________________ lisa lisa and the cult jam yorkies

04-03-2007, 12:23 PM	#9
melmel84 YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Syracuse Posts: 425	Ok. I should have stated I have researched researched researched, tested tested tested. My dog and the dam that are breeding I truley believe are going to better the breed and possibly even produce show pups as well as perfect pets for anyone, both are such sweetie pies~ . Now I just want to know if there are any tips or advice that anyone can give me. I wouldnt be studding my baby if I hadn't have done the research, testing etc. I know I have seen plenty of people breeding dogs that shouldn't be, but everyone has got to start somewhere and tips from fellow yorkie yakers I believe will help me my first time through. Ps the dam's owner has done alot of research as well and we are working together to go through the motions of our first time. PSS~ I am going to be there for the whelping (especially if the other owner needs help), I can't miss my baby becoming a daddy! __________________ Melissa, Tino & Remy

04-03-2007, 01:07 PM	#12
lisatodd Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va Posts: 4,460	ok...so what you are saying is you and the other lady have never studded or whelped a litter? WOW....that is taking on alot. there is so much to say but no one can write everything. so what research?? you are still leaving it opened... let us know what questions you might have. by doing the research, you should know alot. what questions are in your head? also.....i would never never take a pick of a litter. what if they only have one which is commom with yorkies? i would always get a stud fee. __________________ lisa lisa and the cult jam yorkies

04-03-2007, 10:22 AM	#3
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	I see from your profile that you are working on your "Breeding Business." So I am sure you know what to do and have done all the required tests. T.

04-03-2007, 10:28 AM	#5
topknot Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: GA Posts: 3,787	Mardelin - You can word it so much better than I can. T.

04-03-2007, 01:42 PM	#14
HighlandYorkies DEBRA'S DORKY YORKIES4 Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Highland Scotland Posts: 712	Thanks for saying you like my babies. Yes, I might well just keep them all too.....I think she only has one bigger and one small in there anyway, so that wouldn't be hard ! I will be very fond of any she produces, and I intend to keep at least one

04-03-2007, 01:45 PM	#15
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	breeding Best Wishes..you remind me of a friend... She decided to breed, she used one of my males. Got a nice litter of 3...her mother lived with her and when time came to place the pups both couldn't bare the thought of them going..so they kept all three. They had promised friends a chance to get a puppy, so they decided to breed the bitch at her next heat...again, a nice litter of 3...again, they could not part with them at the last moment..so in one year they went from 1 Yorkie to 7, but the they were very happy...and I might add, they had the bitch spayed.