My whole point is they should be willing to give others a try they obviously got the chance from somewhere so they should be willing to give the chance. as well. Im not saying everyone who wants to should be given full registration just those that are intereested should be given the chance to try. and yes if that is raising a limited puppy first etc then so be it. but if they so wish to try to prove themselves as possible good dog breeder then they should be given the chance.

And you are right, I wouldn't sell to just someone just because they wanted to try. It would take a little bit more than that to convince me that I should put the time and effort into them.

You don't have to like the way I do things, but bottom line is that these are my dogs, in my care, with my set of rules and if people don't like my rules, they can look else where and they are still my dogs.

Good! :) In the mean time, study up! You want to impress the snot out of that breeder when you approach them! Put a really cute dress on Anna and go to a dog show. Talk to people showing (when they aren't busy) and find out all you can about the dogs in the ring. Look at some of the more famous yorkies and try to burn into your brain what makes them different from other dogs and why they were so awesome. Form follows function, they look that way because it is the best structure to allow for free movement and less stress on the joints. Research training and genetic diseases and how to deal with a health crisis. You're stubborn and very determined, which can be a very very good thing in breeding. Even if you only breed for friends and family, you'll be giving them the very best puppies you can. :)

so where do i find dog shows in my area is there a web site? im live in a small town but would be willing to travel to Kansas city or somewhere like that? would like to go and watch if for nothing else.

Pretty simple actually. If I were a breeder and I had the time to mentor them, if they put in all the hard work I did to get here and impressed me and were trustworthy, they would get a chance. That chance comes from hardwork and dedication though, not from some sort of entitlement.

Well, there is a big show weekend May 4, 5 and 6th in Gray Summit. You can look on this page. I'll go see if I can find any others. :)

EDIT: Some on infodog too.

www.infodog.com or www.onofrio.com are great places to start looking and will list most shows. :)

Go to onofrio.com. From there you'll click on Shows...it'll take yourto a series of drop down menues...you're looking for future shows. Lots of them in you state and surrounding states. There is the Yorkshire Terrier of Greater Kansas City coming up in August.....along with 4 days of All Breed Shows included. There's one coming up this weekend in Salina.

you didnt have to go look for me but i appreciate it. I didnt know if i could just do a web search if htat would bring something up or if there was a special website that listed them.

There are other show Superintendents, but Onofrio is the one that is more frequently used for the Central US.

thanks

There is also a Yorkshire Terrier Specialty coming up in May in OK City...followed by 2 days of Toy Dog Shows.....It's held at the Biltmore (not as fancy as it sounds).....very fun 3 days for a young person. Not only dog shows, but night entertainment, dinner, dancing, etc.....also a Club Dinner and auction on Friday night after the YT Specialty....great place to meet YT exhibitor breeders from all over and judges.

Just one small point to make, since most of the others have been addressed to no avail....it is my opinion, that if I breed a dog that any of those pups produced are ultimately my responsibility for the full extent of their lives. They are on the planet because of my actions and so I accept knowing that their welfare is and will always be my concern. If I released a dog with full registration and expected it to be bred, then THOSE pups would also be my responsibility..and so on and so on. That is a burden that most thoughtful, responsible breeders do not take lightly and so, do not willingly release any dogs meant for breeding without a serious and well executed mentorship arrangement. Anyone just willing to release registration with a higher price tag, to whomever, has questionable ethics in my opinion......and yes, there are lots and lots of them out there.

Most small towns won't have dog shows. The ones listed on those sites are pretty much all you're getting. :) I usually make a mini-vacation out of it and stay in a hotel for a night (or sleep in the car...) if I need to go farther to see what I want. If you want to learn how to show, look up an obedience club in MO and see if they have a conformation handling class. They'll probably let you go to class with Anna, and you can apply what you've learned on a show pup if/when you decide to get one. Most club websites will tell you when they have meetings and what classes they offer. You and Anna would have a blast! Most will even let your daughter come if she's old enough and she can learn how to handle too! Junior showmanship can be a lot of fun for little munchkins and some start as early as 6!

You are so right, I'm even responsible for those puppies that were produced by my studs, if in fact the breeder does not take back the puppies.

It's things like this that make me wonder if I should ever get into breeding. I've contemplated it, but usually not for more than 2.5 minutes before I started hyperventilating from all of the responsibility. :p I don't know how you guys sleep at night, I would worry myself sick!

And I do.....I've been very fortunate to have placed puppies in wonderful homes that keep me informed with what is going on with those babies. Send me pics, I even still get to groom a couple of them and some have come back to visit while mom and dad go on vacation.

I emailed a lady about a dog club on a website i found in my area. what exactly do you do to join and what do you do as a member? clueless

Sounds like you're on the right track! :thumbup:
I am glad the link about breeders was helpful. Most reputable breeders are so willing to help others learn. It is what helps keep our standard strong.
T.

She'll tell you everything you need to know. Most just want you to come to monthly meetings and help out if they hold shows. There may be dues, it's different for every club. Some just consider you a member if you consistently take classes there. :)

Find out when they hold their meetings, attend. Usually you have to attend so many before being accepted as a member. There are many things that can be done. You can help set up for dog shows and help during the dog show by being part of a committee. Such as ticket taking, hospitality at the shows, selling cataloges, seeing that exhibitors have areas to set up their dogs, making sure RVs are led to their right locations. Participate in meet the breeds, promote responsible pet ownership.....rescue, there are so many things that go on within a club that promote exhibiting and dog welfare. Not only are you helping but, gaining knowledge.

It's official. I think the my head has exploded from reading one single thread.;)

Join the group.....

sorry mardelin I asked alot of questions and really just needed to vent.its just I got hurt, burned and I am still confused.

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yes you are so so correct here , Your dogs are your responsibility and if you sell one for breeding puposes you better make sure it is to the right person for the simple fact that you want to keep your pedigrees , your standards you dont want to sell a pup to some one that will go home and breed for the money and not care about the well being of these puppies , I have a yorkie And I was thinking about breeding her but I changed my mind I am doing my homwork first cause these little puppies could be born with or grow up and have issues , I'm not saying they wouldnt be loved but to prevent that we have respectible breeders who try to prevent this from happing by the limited registration .. I am learning about breeding to so I am a beginner , i will some day breed them but not until I learn everything there is to learn about the yorkie Breed.. :) :thumbup: :thumbup:

I haven't been on in a while and when I logged in it said I should ask a question or post something so after reading this thread - this is what I have to say. AKC is no longer the only registry out there so if you truly want limited registation you must spay or neuter the puppy before it goes to its new home. Puppies sold on limited registration are frequently also registered with another registry that has no limitations and then bred. The resulting offspring are "registered" purebred puppies that can and are sold for just as much as an AKC registered pup with full registration. There is really no way that I can think of to stop anyone from doing this. One breeder that I contacted actually told me her puppies were registered with one of the other registeries because she didn't want to pay extra for full AKC registration on her bitch. Her stud did have full registration. Her solution was to simply use another registry. She was upfront about it and it in no way affects the quality of the pup. The pup is still out of purebred parents with champions in their pedigree. Most people who are buying "just for a pet" don't bother to send in the papers anyway.
I personally would not buy a puppy with limited registration just on principle. I spend the money to get the puppy. It then belongs to me. I may decide to spay or neuter but it is my choice since it is my dog. I also provide a lifetime home for any animal I take in regardless of what may or may not happen down the road. Any one who in any way (purchase, rescue, adopt, whatever or however) makes the commitment to take in an animal should understand that that animal is going to depend on them for the rest of its life. That commitment should be made in the same way you would decide whether or not to add another child to your family. Dogs and other animals are living, breathing beings, not disposable "things".
Which brings me back to one of the reasons I would not purchase an AKC pup on limited registration. You don't get to tell me how to bring up my children. Their are no limitations on their birth certificate and my furbabies are
like my children. Their registry papers are their birth certificate.
I own and have owned several dogs in my lifetime. The one I miss most was a tiny (4 pound) maltese that I had her entire life. I never bred her nor did I have her spayed. She had heart problems in her last year or so of life and that is what she died from at the age of 13 years and 3 months. The vet was very cautious about putting her under for anything and knowing my lifestyle did not feel the pros of spaying her outweighed the cons of putting her under and doing the surgery.
Other dogs I have had spayed because it was in their best interest. I guess I am just trying to say that as their owner and the person who cares for them day in or day out, I think I know more about what is best for them individually then the former "owner" who sold them in the first place and have no further daily interaction with them. Some breeders do have a contract that says they will take the pup (dog) back if for any reason the new owner has to rehome them during their lifetime. I think this is a good thing but how many are actually returned? How many do you really keep in that close of contact with down the road and what kind of contact is it? I bet most don't even send an annual Christmas card.
Anyway - if as a breeder, you don't want someone else to breed the puppy you sell to them, spend a few more $$ and get the surgery out of the way before they are sold.
Some breeders may do this but most won't because they will be afraid that the puppies have less value and be harder to place once altered.
Sorry for the long post and its all JMHO.......... :aimeeyork :animal-pa

puppylove17--

If everyone had the same views an values as you when it came to making that lifetime commitment and doing what is in the best interest of the dog, then there wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately, we know that is not the case...why make it easy for the people who are not like you?

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More people should be like you , then there wouldnt be as many problems and thank you for the long post i enjoyed reading it . Thank you for your point and i fully understand it .

All my puppies are spayed or neutered before living my home . Sometimes peoples don't agree with this practice , I simply tell them that its a responsible thing to do .

My sale contract stipulates that I'll take back my Yorkies if peoples can't take care of them for a reason or another . When they come to visit me , I am always glad to see them , owners are often surprised when I say " my boy or my girl " to the Yorkies . Even if I sold them , for me , they always stay my little adorables babies .