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Old 03-29-2007, 08:51 AM   #1
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Ok I posted this in another thread and am not getting replies back from anyone but one person so id like so other opinions. What i want to know is why a breeder would want to only give limited registration? I know what it is its so you can register any of the puppies from the dog. Is it so you dont have competition? ive heard of people charging more for dogs with full registration? is it for more money? or is it so your dogs dont go to puppy mills? i just dont understand its ok for you to breed dogs but you dont want someone else to? so confused not trying to make anyone mad just want to know.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:59 AM   #2
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It's to protect your line, all the blood sweat tears and years you've put into your name, your dogs, your line. You don't want any joe schmo breeding some roach back bucktooth dog to yours, Your kennel name will be associate with the dogs

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Old 03-29-2007, 09:02 AM   #3
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ok so what your saying is that someone can buy your dog and breed it with a not so good dog and it affects you? does that get reflected on you as a breeder in anyway. like threw akc or something?
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It is to protect your lines but also you want your puppies to be put in pet homes where they can be loved and cherished, not to be bought to have litter after litter like some breeders do. The thought of one of your babies ending up in that situation or even worse a puppymill situation is something no respectable breeder would think of doing. After you raise these puppies, they are like your family and that is the last thing you would want for one of your kids.
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it really doesn't affect you though AKC but if something was to happen with the litter produce from mating your line to whatever and whoever dog that was they breeded with...it will get around and ruin your kennel reputation...

there are a lot of breeders who puts all their time and effort into perfecting the breed...and along comes jane doe who thinks breeding dogs is all about money...and not knowing what kind of faults may come from the dog she plans on breeding to yours...and you might get some puppys with major faults...or become out of standards...and what not...
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ok but isnt that what you do, as a breeder. I mean i know you are good at it and have reserached and know more about it then i or other people. but if you can research and do it cant others as well?
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most reputable breeder will only place her babies in a pet only home...if they feel the pet is show quality than expect to pay more for full registration...and most likely somewhere in the contract it will have something about breeding.

if you are not happy with a breeder for not wanting to give you full registration then you will have to look elsewhere...every one is entiled to their own opinion on the matter...

as for your question above...anyone can become a great breeder...but it takes years...but if you are expecting a reputable breeder to buy into that you most likely will have to sell it to them..show up to dog shows...learn all about the breed and show initiative...
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ok so where did you get your dogs at? if reputable breeder shouldnt sell dogs for breeding? didnt you have to get them from a breeder?
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i never said that they shouldn't sell dogs...

but that is their choice if they want to offer full or limited registration....

i don't know if you created this thread to be argumentive or not but this is a public forum and you asked a questions...and i am simplying replying with what i know....

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no im not trying to be arugmentative i actually want to know why breeders use limited registration? and the only good answer ive got it for tiny dogs who shouldnt be bred. no one else has given me an answer which will lead me to beleive its cuz they dont want competion and i dont really want to beleive that if thats not the truth. but no one is giving me an answer and i would like to know. one person said people should research and im trying to do that in some way and no one wants to give me answers.
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ok but isnt that what you do, as a breeder. I mean i know you are good at it and have reserached and know more about it then i or other people. but if you can research and do it cant others as well?
Of course others can do it as well. But how do you know that they will or are willing to put what in what it takes to do it right and by what is best for the dogs? You don't know for sure so this is the closest thing to esuring that doesn't happen that you have.
It happens here all the time. You have people who join and their very first post is something like, "I bred my 4 pound female to my neighbor's 8 pound Maltese because we thought they were cute and would like a puppy from them and now I think she is going into labor and I don't know what to do" How horrible a situation is THAT for the poor female. Where do you think they got that female to begin with? From a breeder who didn't ensure that the pet was altered or going to be altered when it left their home. I don't want any of the dogs leaving my house to end up in a situation like that--how else am I supposed to prevent it. Someone's 'word' and 'promise?' Those don't go too far these days.
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ok so where did you get your dogs at? if reputable breeder shouldnt sell dogs for breeding? didnt you have to get them from a breeder?
Yes, but you don't just call up a (ethical) breeder at random, say, "hey I'd like to have one of your puppies and be able to breed it down the road" and expect them to give you one. You have to be able to prove to the breeder that you have the best intentions and after you do that, then they can consider if they want to place a dog with you with breeding rights.
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i understand that. wanting to ensure someone doesnt get their poor dogs hurt. and wanting them to not end up in situations like you descirbed. thanks for your input.
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thank you!

not only is it about not breeding smaller ones...but let say 1 out of 4 in the litter had a fault..that means they maybe carriers of a certain fault...if she was a reputable breeder she will take either the sire or dam that caused the fault out of her breeding program and limited all the puppies in hopes of preventing the fault genes that may be carried...

i don't know where you get the term completition from when it comes to breeding...as you might have already noticed there a tons of people out there breeder away...probably not caring what happens and where the puppies go...

but if you can prevent something from happen i sure hope you do...i have been on this thread no more than 2 weeks but have seen many threads stating that this is their first time and their dam is about to whelp her first litter...help..help...help...or maybe they are not comfortable enough to guide the female thru the whelping..

but like i said everyone has their opinions...if you or anyone has a problem with buying a puppy that has a limited registration from a particular breeder...i am pretty sure they wouldn't care if you turned and walked away...after all the main concern here is the sound and safety of their babies...
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i understand that. wanting to ensure someone doesnt get their poor dogs hurt. and wanting them to not end up in situations like you descirbed. thanks for your input.
Sure thing!

I also understand what the others are talking about regarding protecting their lines. Let me give an analogy...probably not the best one, but..:

Let's say you have worked all your life and dedicated everything to being one of the best in the business of restoring classic cars. You are know far and wide by your reputation for what you do. Let's say you put years into restoring one particular car and you sell it to someone who promises to maintain the upkeep on this work of art. Then let's say they get drunk, drive the car and total it but still pass it off as being one of your masterpeices. That mangled piece of crap is now being viewed by others as one of your restorations. Everyone who knows Joe Schmo will think, "don't let NatalieNicole restore your car...did you see the one Joe has? Looks like a wrecked piece of garbage."

Now, replace the car with a living, breathing creature...a dog from your years and dedication as a breeder. If Joe breeds one of your dogs to Uncle Bubba's mill dog and you get a mess of a litter. Even years down the road, people are going to look at Bubba's dogs and say, "well, that's what comes out of NatalieNicole's line of dogs..."
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