Why Breed?

[whispersmom2]

I don't feel bad...I enjoy almost every minute of my life but there are times when I get involved in things that are so intense and I back off and remind myself that there are other things that need my attention. Like right now, making dinner. And, drinking my margarita..
My Yorkies are still the focus of my life, well, after my kids and grandkids, and they are why I am able to get out of bed some days. So, I cannot show (I can just see me crawling out of the ring and the stewards picking me up!) but I sure do love these younguns...
I know we all have differing levels of interest in what we do and that is what makes this such a great forum..we can all have input..

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by whispersmom2

I don't feel bad...I enjoy almost every minute of my life but there are times when I get involved in things that are so intense and I back off and remind myself that there are other things that need my attention. Like right now, making dinner. And, drinking my margarita..
My Yorkies are still the focus of my life, well, after my kids and grandkids, and they are why I am able to get out of bed some days. So, I cannot show (I can just see me crawling out of the ring and the stewards picking me up!) but I sure do love these younguns...
I know we all have differing levels of interest in what we do and that is what makes this such a great forum..we can all have input..

Oh..Oh margarita..now that sound good. I haven't had one of those in a long time. But.. then again it would just give me heartburn...lol
I wish I was younger I would like to show but with my health somedays I have trouble getting out of bed...sometimes my husband has to help me get up and going.
Next to my kids and grandbabies the yorkie are what keep me going too.
They have a way to sooth the soul, makes you laugh and we all know laughter is good for the soul.
I think everyone need to do what make you happy,and comfortable...be it breeding, showing, both or neither.

[shelbysmom]

Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

Yeah, there's a problem w/ the human species population, but some of us feel out lives aren't devoted to that area. We should be, but we choose not to be. I have chosen to not ADD to the people population by not reproducing myself. lol Death is part of the cycle of life and is necc., children die everyday and so do our pets. I'm not bothered either way. I was thankful to not be born into that kind of situation and for those that were, hopefully a helpful hand will come their way. I'm not in the position or mentality to take up someone else's mistake. Not all of those starving children were mistakes, but many were brought into this world by poor choices and I'm ALL for teaching people to make informed, educated decisions than I am to deal w/ the bs brought out by those poor choices. Nature will find a way.

If THIS offends anyway, fine. Sorry to ruin the next five minutes of your life.
In the mean time, I am focusing on only adding to the population problem of Yorkies by making informed, educated decisions and right now that would be for me not to breed. I don't have any Yorkies that would be worth contributing to the breed, although I love them dearly and one in particular is one hell of a working yorkie!!!

I am torn between being horrified and laughing my guts out. Great read.

Thanks.

[yorkieK9trainer]

-?- Your welcome, I guess.


Oh, I'm going to hell. J/K

[kisszoe]

Originally Posted by Tashasmom

I admit I am big on Training and agility and I'm not for showing. But if thats what you want to do do it. I'm happy your doing something you love. What bothers me is there are some show breeders out there that think they should be the only ones breeding. They think they are the only ones experienced enough..What gets me is do you really think those type of breeders are breeding dogs so they can offer to the world good quality pups? NO they aren't..they are breeding dogs so they can hopefully get that next champion and then they turn around and sell what they think aren't worth keeping.
I feel that I breed so I can produce good sound quality pups because I LOVE this breed as well as all animals and I want to offer to the world a chance to enjoy what I love ...a pet to love.
I don't have to show to know what the standard is. I don't have to show to know how to care for an animal. I don't have to show to provide quality pups. What I do have to do..is learn..learn all i can about the breed..about breeding..about caring for an animal to keep it healthy..to care for it when its not..ect..ect..
And I too would be a living room breeder lol..

I really like that Tashasmom and Sugarsmom too! They give me hope!! You go girls!

[yorkieK9trainer]

This irks me TERRIBLY.
Why are "living room breeders" so proud? Because you produce good dogs?
What about "good" Yorkies? Many of these "living room breeders" produce dogs that carry the Yorkie name, but look NOTHING like them! What gives?
NOTE: I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ALL LRB, just most of them. Once and a while I'm sure you'll find a diamond in the rough where a LRB has something worth while, but not often.



I just don't get it. That'd be like someone w/ a down syndrome child that is proud it has down syndrome because it's "their" child...and keep having children w/o ever getting that child tested BEFORE it's born (even thought they know those tests are available to them!). Why have dogs the same way? So what if it has a slight problem? It's so sweet and cute, certainly the pups he/she produces must be the same way! ?!?!?
How is that ethical in any way??
-Again, NOT every LRB fits this steriotype, but many do. And YEAH, you'll find people that own Yorkies from LRB that LOVE their dog and the experience they've had w/t he LRB, but most of those people don't know any better anyway and as long as it's cute many of those people don't care (because they don't know all the things they should about Yorkies).

*grr*

[yorkiemom1970]

Originally Posted by shyorkies

Okay here is goes, lol! When I first thought about breeding the quality of the yorkies I had were okay, but nothing to write home about.. Once I decided that I wanted to only breed to produce something to show everything changed for me.. My hobby has become studying pedigrees and looking at the many different types of yorkie each line produces.. I can remember back to when I had my first couple of litters I was excited about the puppies, but nothing like I am now! I feel the quality of my yorkies has changed and for the better.. Now when I decide to breed for a litter I am unbelievably excited beyond belief! I cannot wait for the puppies to be born and I cannot wait to see the quality they mature into as adults! I will gladly admit when I first started breeding I did not think I would have or be able to have anything showable.. But I feel I have worked very hard and I am very excited as to the possibilities in the future..

Wow, Melanie you took the words right out of my mouth, so for that I thank you for saving me all the typing

As for some of the "others" here. Please refrain from referring to me as a LRB. I prefer KB. I don't like certain "things" getting on my sofa and carpet. (all you LRB's and KB's, and SB's, or any kind of "B" should know EXACTLY what i'm talking about, LOL) Thanks!

[yorkiemom1970]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Oh, I do see your point in your aspect of wanting to enter him. Right now, no, I don't have a show quality pup. (Actually, right now, we don't have any pups...cept Kasey.) Course, I have not had many litters to chose from, now have I? That's what we're working towards, just like you have been doing. I don't really know what my motivations may be when we get there. But, say we had one born tomorrow...I don't feel it would be absolutely neccessary to put it in the ring to complete his being "quality." Right now, I honestly don't have the time...money is not an issue, but time is. Much like yourself, I have an outside job. (Plus a 5 year old.) Could I pay to have some help like you? Yes, but that is not my desire. We have both done what we feel is best. Might showing be an option in the future for me? Yes, but right now, I am very comfortable where we are and the direction we are moving.

I don't know, I guess it is just the way you look at it. I have 6 people waiting for pups. I am comfortable with them having them...they'll be in good homes. I am not going to be disappointed if they go to loving homes rather than a ring. I do not feel the need to "prove" anything or "impress" others. I don't know. I enjoy shows, but I just have no desire to pursue that right now. Although Agility on the other hand...that's another story...

Misty, I also wanted to elaborate on this post of yours...
I think you are on the right path and are doing absolutely nothing wrong. I for one can honestly say that if it weren't for my years under my belt of "only breeding" that when I jump into the show world very soon that it will only make me better at what I hope to accomplish. I spent so much time REALLY learning my breed over the years, learning all the apsects of getting healthy babies into this world, seeing what produced what, traits, temperaments, you name it. The hands on of being a breeder first gave me a huge heads up I truly believe. No one will convince me otherwise because I've done it. If I had just went out and bought my first show prospect and went for it, I would still have so much to learn that I already know. So there is nothing wrong with being a responsible, ethical breeder and not showing. It isn't for everyone. And to each their own.

[Sugar's Mom]

WOW!!!!!!!! guess I started a new name when I referred to myself as a "living room breeder" LOL. The only reason I said that is because my yorkies are raised in my living room which now resembles a dog pen, I might add. It is a running joke between my husband and myself. And being the parent of two mentally challenged adult children, I take great offense to the reference of a downs syndrome child that some one made. No, I didn't give birth to two handicapped children. I birthed one and adopted the other as a special needs child. I have never breed ANY KIND of yorkie yet, good, bad, pretty or ugly but one day I will. I have a great foundation and when I am ready, I will breed I am researching and learning every day and yes, I do know what a quality yorkie is supposed to look like. My yorkies will be gorgeous, quality pups and I will be a proud mama. I figured some on here would call me a back yard breeder so I named myself a living room breeder.

[yorkieK9trainer]

Interesting spin on the backyard breeder title. So if you were afraid of someone labeling you that, why try to cushion it by calling yourself a LRB if there's pretty much no difference? I'm sure many of the backyard breeders or "hobby breeders" raise their pups in the living room and only call themselves byb because that's what definition the hobbiest was given?

In regards to the downs comment, I suppose it was a bad choice, but you got my point and that's all I wanted. Is your real name Patricia by any chance??

[yorkiemom1970]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

WOW!!!!!!!! guess I started a new name when I referred to myself as a "living room breeder" LOL. The only reason I said that is because my yorkies are raised in my living room which now resembles a dog pen, I might add. It is a running joke between my husband and myself. And being the parent of two mentally challenged adult children, I take great offense to the reference of a downs syndrome child that some one made. No, I didn't give birth to two handicapped children. I birthed one and adopted the other as a special needs child. I have never breed ANY KIND of yorkie yet, good, bad, pretty or ugly but one day I will. I have a great foundation and when I am ready, I will breed I am researching and learning every day and yes, I do know what a quality yorkie is supposed to look like. My yorkies will be gorgeous, quality pups and I will be a proud mama. I figured some on here would call me a back yard breeder so I named myself a living room breeder.

LOL, my post about LRB was only a little joke on my part. I refer to myself on a joking level as a KB (kitchen breeder) LOL!! I don't worry about the labeling that goes on anymore. I know what I am, and how I conduct my breeding program. The know it alls always seem to have everyone figured out.
I really like txshopper's siggy..."if you haven't been to someone's home, you know nothing about them!" or something like that.

If we can't laugh at the "labelers" then what can we do? I've yet to be labeled to my face, but I'm sure there are some who have done it behind my back and to many others. Do I care? Heck no. I don't care what anyone thinks of me. I only care how I feel about myself and what I KNOW to be true.
Best wishes,

[dskeeter1983]

Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970

LOL, my post about LRB was only a little joke on my part. I refer to myself on a joking level as a KB (kitchen breeder) LOL!! I don't worry about the labeling that goes on anymore. I know what I am, and how I conduct my breeding program. The know it alls always seem to have everyone figured out.
I really like txshopper's siggy..."if you haven't been to someone's home, you know nothing about them!" or something like that.

If we can't laugh at the "labelers" then what can we do? I've yet to be labeled to my face, but I'm sure there are some who have done it behind my back and to many others. Do I care? Heck no. I don't care what anyone thinks of me. I only care how I feel about myself and what I KNOW to be true.
Best wishes,

i agree with you on this point who cares what other people say about you as long as you care about yourself and think that you r doing some good

[Tashasmom]

Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

This irks me TERRIBLY.
Why are "living room breeders" so proud? Because you produce good dogs?
What about "good" Yorkies? Many of these "living room breeders" produce dogs that carry the Yorkie name, but look NOTHING like them! What gives?
NOTE: I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ALL LRB, just most of them. Once and a while I'm sure you'll find a diamond in the rough where a LRB has something worth while, but not often.



I just don't get it. That'd be like someone w/ a down syndrome child that is proud it has down syndrome because it's "their" child...and keep having children w/o ever getting that child tested BEFORE it's born (even thought they know those tests are available to them!). Why have dogs the same way? So what if it has a slight problem? It's so sweet and cute, certainly the pups he/she produces must be the same way! ?!?!?
How is that ethical in any way??
-Again, NOT every LRB fits this steriotype, but many do. And YEAH, you'll find people that own Yorkies from LRB that LOVE their dog and the experience they've had w/t he LRB, but most of those people don't know any better anyway and as long as it's cute many of those people don't care (because they don't know all the things they should about Yorkies).

*grr*

I can't beleive I just read what I just read. I have plenty to say to what you just wrote but I have no desire to be kicked off of this forum.

[yorkiemom1970]

Originally Posted by Tashasmom

I can't beleive I just read what I just read. I have plenty to say to what you just wrote but I have no desire to be kicked off of this forum.

Just take a deep breath and IGNORE. I decided not to elaborate on that post at all. I know better.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

This irks me TERRIBLY.
Why are "living room breeders" so proud? Because you produce good dogs?
What about "good" Yorkies? Many of these "living room breeders" produce dogs that carry the Yorkie name, but look NOTHING like them! What gives?
NOTE: I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ALL LRB, just most of them. Once and a while I'm sure you'll find a diamond in the rough where a LRB has something worth while, but not often.

It irks me that you refuse to give others any credibility because they fail to follow and do exactly as you do. And people wonder why show breeders often get stereotyped as "snooty know it alls..."