Jendas Yorkies

[BzBobbi]

Let me post the reasons for my concern with it being the incorrect puppy.....

The pup was taken to the vet on 04/10/07 and I was told that she weighed
1 3/4lbs. When I received her on 04/13/07 3 SHORT DAYS LATER she weighed 2lbs 9oz. This would mean that she gained 1/4 of her adult weight in 3 days???? I Dont think this is POSSIBLE.....

The pup that I purchase in the ad on puppyfind and in all correspondance name was DEMI and was always referred to as such by her breeder- jenda's yorkies. When I received the pup the vet health certificate listed the pups name as MISSY......

The breeder also told me that she would mail the akc papers after I received the pup and would sent them registered mail. She didnt want to take the chance that the "papers could get lost" and the expense to have akc reissue them... I understand all of this...... When I didnt receive the akc papers 1 week later and I might add that I still havent :-( I emailed and inquired on it... She stated that she hadnt received them back from akc yet... So why not just tell me this originally???


Let me list the differences in the pup:

Head: the shape isnt the same

Ears set: completely different

Structure: the pup that I received is "very" petite build

Coat: the length of the coat on the pup I received is "much" longer..... look at the paws..... Can it really grow that much in 9 days??? that is the difference in time between the pics. The pup that I received has a very very thin sparse coat- you can see down to the skin all over it.

try this senerio: You have been searching for a certain car for a very long time, investing all your weekends into it. You finally find a car lot you think is reputable go and pick out a car. It is a very nice car and you have saved and saved for it. You pay for it with your hard earned money and they will deliver it to you in a week. When it arrives you realize that this isnt the car you paid for. It is a 4 door sedan and you purchased and paid for the 2 door coupe. They tell you, well it is the same make of car and runs fine, you should just be happy with it and there is nothing they will do for you.

would you be happy? I work very hard for my money when I spend it, expect to "GET WHAT I PAID FOR"

Can anyone really say anything different? I think if you can, you just AREN'T BEING REAL.......

[BzBobbi]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

This post makes no sense at all. We have a BREEDER'S REVIEW forum on here just for that. Negative and positive reviews with breeders. if you feel you have had a negativee experuience, why wouldn't you want to warm other possible buyers about the breeder and maybe keep them from getting the wrong pup like you evidently did.

I was actually being sarcastic...... Ladyhawk has a problem with people posting bad repor on jenda's yorkies. I was reading her prior statement when she said that she would want to know the good and the bad. BUT yet she chastizes anyone who does bad repor on this certain breeder... She did it to me and to prettypuppypink. I had a really bad experience and wouldnt want anyone to have the same. I think it is good to get your experiences out there good or bad to give the new buyer something to consider.....

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by BzBobbi

I was actually being sarcastic...... Ladyhawk has a problem with people posting bad repor on jenda's yorkies. I was reading her prior statement when she said that she would want to know the good and the bad. BUT yet she chastizes anyone who does bad repor on this certain breeder... She did it to me and to prettypuppypink. I had a really bad experience and wouldnt want anyone to have the same. I think it is good to get your experiences out there good or bad to give the new buyer something to consider.....

oh, I see. sorry i didn't catch the sarcasim

[Ladyhawk]

What I had a problem with was the word too in the post on presenting Cricket. It made it sound like I got scammed first when you come into my thread and state that you've been scammed too. I was not scammed. I understand that some can have good dealings with someone and be perfectly happy and others have a bad dealing and be unsatisfied. I don't know if Mary Lou switched pups on you or not but I was stating what I do know. The pups that have come out of Parker and Jonesy so far are of excellent quality and bashing a breeder on a public forum does not settle any issues. Everyone must judge a breeder on their own experiences and use their good judgement when it comes to making such an important purchase. We have discussed the importance of written contracts before. With internet purchases the term buyer beware becomes even more crutial. There will always be risk when purchasing a pup sight unseen. If you are free to say that you are unhappy with the service that you received from a particular breeder than I am free to say that I was happy. I just hate to see anyone's name dragged through the mud when they are not here to defend themselves. You people are mean sometimes and I would hate to see my self on the end of your rope.

[BzBobbi]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

What I had a problem with was the word too in the post on presenting Cricket. It made it sound like I got scammed first when you come into my thread and state that you've been scammed too. I was not scammed. I understand that some can have good dealings with someone and be perfectly happy and others have a bad dealing and be unsatisfied. I don't know if Mary Lou switched pups on you or not but I was stating what I do know. The pups that have come out of Parker and Jonesy so far are of excellent quality and bashing a breeder on a public forum does not settle any issues. Everyone must judge a breeder on their own experiences and use their good judgement when it comes to making such an important purchase. We have discussed the importance of written contracts before. With internet purchases the term buyer beware becomes even more crutial. There will always be risk when purchasing a pup sight unseen. If you are free to say that you are unhappy with the service that you received from a particular breeder than I am free to say that I was happy. I just hate to see anyone's name dragged through the mud when they are not here to defend themselves. You people are mean sometimes and I would hate to see my self on the end of your rope.

I wasnt being mean when I said what I had to say about jenda's yorkies.....
I stated the FACTS.......and I am also not saying that "all" her pups are of a lesser quality... What I AM SAYING IS: I didnt get the pup that I PAID FOR $$. The price that I paid doesnt matter nor does the fact that it may be a healthy pup. I still didnt receive the pup that I PAID FOR. What irritates me the most is the fact that Marylou refuses to even research it for a possibility... She states that the pup I purchased "DEMI" was microchipped before she went to the vet and she has the microchip number listed in her "notes" as that pup being "DEMI"... I was sent a copy of the microchip certificate but there isnt a name on it, it is left blank so the new owner can name the pup and register the pup... I understand all of this and have no problem with the procedure. I did ask her if she ACTUALLY SCANNED the pup before she shipped it to make sure she was sending the correct pup (according to her notes) and I havent heard back from her... I am actually taking another female to the vet this morning and will take that pup along and have it scanned to see if she sent the correct microchip certificate. The only way I will know anything is if it is a different number- then I will know that she did send a different pup according to the cert number in her notes. If the number is the same as the certificate that she sent to me then- it is possible that she just sent a different pup with its certificate altogether... She never listed in her ad that the pup was microchipped and what her number was, to I really have no point of reference. I didnt even know that the pup was microchipped until she told me shortly before she shipped her. This to me seems a bit odd to me as well. We had numerous corresponging emails and it was never mentioned until shortly before she was shipped. If you look at the ads on puppyfind, usually breeders who do microchip their pups advertise them as such... This does enhance their worth I feel and if you are putting the time and effort into it, why wouldnt you advertise it??? She said that she has it written in her notes that the cert she sent is for DEMI but how does a buyer really know...

[CO_yorkie_momma]

Bzbobbi,
I think you would be better off starting your own thread and posting it in either the Breeder Talk forum or the breeder/vet reviews forum instead on adding to other peoples threads that they started. I dont think you should have posted on Tami's thread introducing Cricket and I see her concern that you made it sound like she was scammed also. If you start your own thread, more people will see it and give you their advice or opinion. A word of caution though is not to state things that you dont know as fact like you did on Tami's thread. You are setting yourself up for big time trouble by doing that. You have every right to post your experience just like others has their right to post their own. I hope you get things worked out and I do understand your frustration about this puppy. Good luck!!!!!!!

[shyorkies]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

What I had a problem with was the word too in the post on presenting Cricket. It made it sound like I got scammed first when you come into my thread and state that you've been scammed too. I was not scammed. I understand that some can have good dealings with someone and be perfectly happy and others have a bad dealing and be unsatisfied. I don't know if Mary Lou switched pups on you or not but I was stating what I do know. The pups that have come out of Parker and Jonesy so far are of excellent quality and bashing a breeder on a public forum does not settle any issues. Everyone must judge a breeder on their own experiences and use their good judgement when it comes to making such an important purchase. We have discussed the importance of written contracts before. With internet purchases the term buyer beware becomes even more crutial. There will always be risk when purchasing a pup sight unseen. If you are free to say that you are unhappy with the service that you received from a particular breeder than I am free to say that I was happy. I just hate to see anyone's name dragged through the mud when they are not here to defend themselves. You people are mean sometimes and I would hate to see my self on the end of your rope.

I do NOT think anyone was trying to be mean! This thread was not started by you, it was started by another member asking about Jenda's Yorkies.. I think Bobbi has tried to settle this with Jenda's Yorkies/Mary Lou and apparently it has not been settled.. I also wonder in the back of my mind why Jenda's Yorkies/Mary Lou NEVER contacted Barb after she emailed them to state her Trace had Legg Perthes? I also think if someone is telling the TRUTH they are not bashing anyone!

[shyorkies]

I will also say I have PERSONALLY been to Larry Smith's home/Lashire Yorkies and I have NEVER seen such flith in all my life! I also have hands on when it comes to his dogs.. The smell from his kennel took my husband and my breath away it stunk so bad.. Most of the dogs were living in tiny rabbit cages!!!!!!

[Sugar's Mom]

i am going to say the same thing I said on another thread somewhere. People wouldn't have all these problems MAYBE if they would consider the breeders on here before looking elsewhere. There are many good honest breeders on here to choose from. I am not talking about just me because i only last night recommended a half dozen YT breeders to someone looking for something I don't have. Some I know and can recommend, others I know of but couldn't recommend so maybe this ought to be the starting place in a search for a puppy. A lot of the breedes on here also have good recommendations from satisfied buyers.

[Mardelin]

I think the clue for future yorkie families is to educate themselves before venturing out in their search......Whether YT breeders or not, learn what a reputable breeder is, one that is breeding to improve, breeding healthy, well structured and good temperament dogs. Provides honest information, can provide references. New yorkie families should take their time on making a big decision such as this. I myself would not buy sight unseen from an unknown breeder with unestablished lines.

[shyorkies]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I think the clue for future yorkie families is to educate themselves before venturing out in their search......Whether YT breeders or not, learn what a reputable breeder is, one that is breeding to improve, breeding healthy, well structured and good temperament dogs. Provides honest information, can provide references. New yorkie families should take their time on making a big decision such as this. I myself would not buy sight unseen from an unknown breeder with unestablished lines.

I would also like to add "a prospective new owner" should not narrow your search just to YT breeders! There are alot of reputable breeders who do not advertise or need to advertise, or would not even think of ever advertising! Go to your local kennel club and see if they can refer you to a yorkshire terrier breeder in your area.. It is up to the prospective owner to do their homework and know what to look for in a reputable breeder and a healthy puppy! I think it is important to get to know who you are thinking of purchasing from, request references, vet reference.. If you are looking to show in conformation make sure you purchase from a reputable show breeder who have championed their dogs and are actively showing..

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Okay so maybe I'm dense because it's finals week but I don't see why Bobbi should get a refund or replacement puppy. Does the papers say that the dog is out of Parker and Jonesy. Is the pup of the right age and healthy? The dog holds enough resemblance to Connor that it could be his brother. It has a great ear set and the face is balanced well. The coat is a bit thin but it's puppy coat and often the thinner coats grow into the nicest, thickest silk. What is wrong with this puppy that has her so upset? She paid 250. for shipping and handling so the price of the pup was 2000. That's what she agreed on and what I paid for my show/breeding stock that I have purchased from Mary Lou. Bobbi is brand new and is on her bashing a breeder but other than the fact that the pics aren't identical what is her beef? Pups change every week and look different after they've been groomed, every long time yorkie owner/ breeder knows this. ... I don't know Bobbi but I do know until it's settled she shouldn't be bashing someone on a public forum.

It would not matter to me if the dog was perfect, it still is NOT the one she paid for. Looking at those pictures, I see no way it could be the same dog. Even if it has some miraculous spurt of hair growth, how did the set of the ears change so dramatically? It is not bashing a breeder to report on an experience. Bobbi even started off asking for opinions about whether the dogs were the same. If a breeder is substituting dogs after purchase, then that information needs to be made public! What is YT for but to share experiences? If you contact her often, you can always invite her to come here and defend herself -- but my guess is there is no defense for this.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

What I had a problem with was the word too in the post on presenting Cricket. It made it sound like I got scammed first when you come into my thread and state that you've been scammed too. .

How did this become YOUR thread? Are you also YorkieGeorge? That is the person who started the thread. Just posting a lot in a thread does not give ownership. I think everyone understands you were very happy with your purchase from Jendas. But....I think you are personalizing this to yourself too much. Just because a breeder makes one great transaction does not mean she does not make a mistake on another.

It is good to hear from all sides. Too many times when someone has a bad experience on this board, they are accused of "bashing" or "raking through the mud." It makes too many others afraid to even report the bad experiences! Instead, why not just accept that someone else had a bad experience. Say, "sorry you had a bad experience. I got my pup from them and had a great transaction from start to finish. " Then you have evened the score but allowed for another's experiences as well. You can both be right -- really!!

I have followed this for a while and probably should have stayed the course with keeping my fingers off the keyboard but.....I finally couldn't help but respond.

[CO_yorkie_momma]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

How did this become YOUR thread? Are you also YorkieGeorge? That is the person who started the thread. Just posting a lot in a thread does not give ownership. I think everyone understands you were very happy with your purchase from Jendas. But....I think you are personalizing this to yourself too much. Just because a breeder makes one great transaction does not mean she does not make a mistake on another.

It is good to hear from all sides. Too many times when someone has a bad experience on this board, they are accused of "bashing" or "raking through the mud." It makes too many others afraid to even report the bad experiences! Instead, why not just accept that someone else had a bad experience. Say, "sorry you had a bad experience. I got my pup from them and had a great transaction from start to finish. " Then you have evened the score but allowed for another's experiences as well. You can both be right -- really!!

I have followed this for a while and probably should have stayed the course with keeping my fingers off the keyboard but.....I finally couldn't help but respond.

Debra, I believe the thread Tami was referring to was the one Tami started in the my yorkie forum introducing Cricket, that Bzbreeze posted on, not this one.
That is why I suggested to her to maybe start her own thread about this instead of using someone elses to make her point. I know you werent directing this to me but I think that is what she meant by "my thread".

[BzBobbi]

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma

Debra, I believe the thread Tami was referring to was the one Tami started in the my yorkie forum introducing Cricket, that Bzbreeze posted on, not this one.
That is why I suggested to her to maybe start her own thread about this instead of using someone elses to make her point. I know you werent directing this to me but I think that is what she meant by "my thread".

can we keep names correct.... my name is BzBobbi. . . . . thank you.