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Old 08-10-2007, 12:51 PM   #136
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I've never seen a different picture of Piper so it may be the picture. Isn't it odd that Tremar and Fondarosa used the same pic. I can't argue about Piper's quality, having never seen him in person. Connor got his quality from somewhere.
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Connor is STUNNING!
Thanks, He's growing up beautifully and doing well in the ring. He just sired a pup that took best of breed at her first puppy match. He's a great little dog.
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The puppy was 12 weeks...as a knowledgable person of the breed, I know that is not the age to purchase breeding/show dogs..BUT when an ethical breeder is contacted for a certain type puppy, it is their responsiblity to the best of their ability to offer a pup of this description or tell the person they do not have a suitable puppy for them. Do not turn a sow into a silk purse for the almighty dollar...

So many people have trusted me over the years for help selecting a companion, breeding/show pup...I can be ethical or I can rip them off...
When it is all said and done, all I have is my word and reputation...

BUT..let me tell you something (you know I am angry about this)...if I happened on to YT and read this post about ME..I would contact the unhappy buyers and return every last cent of their money, even if it meant taking a bank loan...AND if I happened to run into this woman with the 12 pound "breed" quality bitch and this person was pleased as punch with her girl and planned to breed her..I would do all I could to fix it, replace the bitch with a more suitable one, whatever it took to correct the situation...

What is wrong with people...lie, cheat, steal, but get the money at all costs..you are not in Yorkies for the love of the breed, but the love of the greenback...I doubt they even realize greed as an odor that reeks from their pores...
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:55 PM   #139
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At 12 weeks I guess she was counting on the weight and the quality of the parents to judge whether it is breed quality or not. I evaluate at 8 weeks and make an educated guess, sometimes it's right, sometimes it's not so right. It's risky when selling pups to breed or show, alot safer to sell pets. I try to keep my customers happy, it's not always an easy job. The yorkie world show and pet is tough on people and there is someone out to take you at every turn. This is what makes being a breeder so difficult. The dogs are a dream it's the people that make it tricky.
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Breeders are not God...we make big mistakes, but we have the choice to TRY and fix our mistakes, at our own expense or say..OOPS at the buyers expense.
I realize, what is breed quality to one, may not be to another, but 12 pounds is a no brainer..she is not overweight..she is 12 pounds on a 12 pound frame...I have seen her.
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Did they try and contact Jen to tell them what the situation was and if so, did they get a reply from them? I know when I was contacting Jen to purchase my dogs, I got a reply almost immdeiately every time. When I contacted them to tell them Trace was limping and the doctor said his knees were very bad and he suspected Legg Perthes also, it was a couple weeks and it took 2 seperate emails for them to respond. The response was I will tell mom and give him extra treats. When I emailed them to tell them he did in fact have Legg Perthes and would need surgery I never heard from them again. I didnt bother even trying again after that.
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I have told her to talk to her about her disappointment...I am sorry about her (Jendas)health problems and it does not come at a good time..
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WOW! When I came onto the page the first word I saw was "BITCH" and I thought , YEP! sums her up alright! Thank God she is getting out of the business! Too Little Too Late for alot of innocent trustworthy people who have purchased yorkies from her under "FALSE PRETENSES"!! Sorry to hear of your friends hishap...
So it still goes on with Jendas! You said it all in your statement. I was fortunate enough after 7 months, to rehome my purchase from Jenda's. He almost killed my Mi-Ki. First time he went for his throat and ripped it, second time he bit the head and my poor Mi-Ki had a seizure. I found a good home for for that nasty, misrepresented Yorkie but don't know. He needed to be an only dog. First time in 46 years of owning dogs that I ever had to do this. I honestly can say that I didn't miss him at all, felt relieved of a burden. She should stop breeding. I find it amusing that those who turned on me when I posted my experience, now are not so thrilled with Jendas.
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So it still goes on with Jendas! You said it all in your statement. I was fortunate enough after 7 months, to rehome my purchase from Jenda's. He almost killed my Mi-Ki. First time he went for his throat and ripped it, second time he bit the head and my poor Mi-Ki had a seizure. I found a good home for for that nasty, misrepresented Yorkie but don't know. He needed to be an only dog. First time in 46 years of owning dogs that I ever had to do this. I honestly can say that I didn't miss him at all, felt relieved of a burden. She should stop breeding. I find it amusing that those who turned on me when I posted my experience, now are not so thrilled with Jendas.
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Sometimes these dogs just don't get along. Roxie has always gotten along very well with every dog I've brought into this house but she has sent Teddi to the vets and continues to attack her. I have to be ever vigilent as it comes without apparent warning. I've yet to decide what to do with Roxie and Teddi never fights back so I don't know if she's the problem or not. You do what you must to keep peace in your home but I don't blame Roxie's breeder or Teddi's.
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Breeders are not God...we make big mistakes, but we have the choice to TRY and fix our mistakes, at our own expense or say..OOPS at the buyers expense.
I realize, what is breed quality to one, may not be to another, but 12 pounds is a no brainer..she is not overweight..she is 12 pounds on a 12 pound frame...I have seen her.
I'd still love to know how much the bitch weighed at 12 weeks and who her sire and dam are. She may be kin to Connor and I am still trying to figure out the growth rate of his life to help me estimate the adult weight of his pups better.
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Sometimes these dogs just don't get along. Roxie has always gotten along very well with every dog I've brought into this house but she has sent Teddi to the vets and continues to attack her. I have to be ever vigilent as it comes without apparent warning. I've yet to decide what to do with Roxie and Teddi never fights back so I don't know if she's the problem or not. You do what you must to keep peace in your home but I don't blame Roxie's breeder or Teddi's.
The thing is that Jendas sold me a 7 month old puppy and knew he was vicious and knew I had two sweet dogs. You will just defend them no matter how many people they deceived. They did it to others that posted. What about Yorkie George's friend, rehomed a vicious one also from Jendas. They are awful! I don't care, continue to defend them. I would avoid buying from anyone that is breeding their dogs. I have a darling, sweet Biewer puppy that fits in with my other two, good breeding and an honest breeder. I love the Biewers.
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The thing is that Jendas sold me a 7 month old puppy and knew he was vicious and knew I had two sweet dogs. You will just defend them no matter how many people they deceived. They did it to others that posted. What about Yorkie George's friend, rehomed a vicious one also from Jendas. They are awful! I don't care, continue to defend them. I would avoid buying from anyone that is breeding their dogs. I have a darling, sweet Biewer puppy that fits in with my other two, good breeding and an honest breeder. I love the Biewers.
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Roxie, who is being vicious towards Teddi, is from Georgia and has no connection to Jendas or that line. She never showed any violent tendency before this and is nice to all other dogs. Sometimes you just never know. I agree the Biewers are great, enjoy them.
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I do not believe anyone has to defend their stock...Most breeders have a combination of many lines bred into theirs..
No two dogs are alike..why I posted was regarding purchasing a foundation bitch that was not what the buyer wanted..she is contacting the breeder again to discuss the problem.
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I do not believe anyone has to defend their stock...Most breeders have a combination of many lines bred into theirs..
No two dogs are alike..why I posted was regarding purchasing a foundation bitch that was not what the buyer wanted..she is contacting the breeder again to discuss the problem.
I'm glad she's going to talk to Mary Lou about it. It's so hard to get a hold of good breeding stock and though the internet has helped to expand one's search, it is always risky to purchase a dog sight unseen. I've purchased online and I've been lucky and not so lucky. One should be very carefully when making such important decisions, especially online. I hope she's able to get it all resolved.
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