Breeder Responsibilities?

[whispersmom2]

"I just got off the phone with her and she told me that she would ship another puppy to me out of a litter she had right now for $500.00, this puppy is going to be around 6 pounds."

That is the way the guarantees are usually honored. My question is "What makes a breeder think someone will want another puppy from them? Wasn't one sick baby enough?" Are you saying that she wants you to PAY for another puppy from her? I do hope that you can refuse to pay that, or any amount, for another puppy and that you can recover some of your vet bills.
Maybe her camera is broken or maybe she has to run out and but a puppy from some other person to send you. That happens in the area where I live--several breeders just keep the others out of trouble by letting them have a puppy to send. Then, when that one gets in trouble, someone else bails them out. I have no way of knowing this is the case here, but it does sound suspicious...

[bettyeanne]

Amy, I am so terribly about your loss of little Zoe. God bless you in your resolution of this!

[bugaboosmom]

I am so sorry you had to go through this, I'ts horrible.
Seriously check into the puppy lemons laws in your state and the breeders.
I don't think if you want another puppy from her you should pay a dime!

[yorkiemom1970]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I've heard of her. I had contacted her back before I got my Chanel but she didn't answer my emails and I moved on....but that's great she will do this - only thing is...I feel there should not be an additional charge...but that's just me with my opinion only.

YOU need to do what you feel is best and I wish you luck ....and also my condolences. Losing a puppy has to be one of the worst hurts.....

I agree, there should not be an additional charge in my opinion. She should have graciously shipped you another baby free of charge. Gosh I know this is frustrating for you and you are grieving. Maybe don't let her know that you are so anxious to get another baby just this minute. Let her know that you feel you should be compensated and express your concerns to her. And for what she is charging for her pups, she ought to be able to get a camera for her clients. Sorry, I'm just feeling frustrated right along with you. I wish you the best,

[twinkletoes]

I am completely overwhelmed by everyone's support here.....wow, thank you! Thank you so mush for all of your heart felt advice and caring condolences. I really value every word sent to me. *God Bless all of you*

I have copey and pasted the email from me to her, and her reply. This top paragraph is her reply.

You will have to give her bones or rope toy's to pull out those teeth or have them pulled by a Vet. All small dogs have popping knee's just don't be pulling on them it will make them weak and then it will be surgery. I'm glad she is so happy at her new home and I'm glad you love her just watch her a round big dogs they will think she is a rat and kill her so many times little dogs get pick up by big dogs and they shake them one time and their dead... Linda
Twinkle Toes <twinkle@bresnan.net> wrote:
Hello,
I just wanted to let you know that Zoë is doing great! she is a celebrity in my grooming shop. She loves everyone and wants to play with all of the dogs that come in, big and small, although sometimes I have to put her in her bed to keep her safe. She wares a bell so we can hear her presence. Her favorite toy is a yellow ball and she will "fight to the death for it" she growls like a little motor boat and her tail wags at lightening speed when anyone tries to get it from her (it's her little game), soooo cute! By the way, she has GROWN. When you shipped her she was 6"long and 5"tall and now she is 7"tall and 7"long, quite a growth spurt. Another thing is she has two rows of teeth, her baby teeth have not fallen out yet, is this normal, what do I do? Last but not least, her back knees pop when I bend them, is this something I should worry about? Thanks, Amy

[twinkletoes]

Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970

I agree, there should not be an additional charge in my opinion. She should have graciously shipped you another baby free of charge. Gosh I know this is frustrating for you and you are grieving. Maybe don't let her know that you are so anxious to get another baby just this minute. Let her know that you feel you should be compensated and express your concerns to her. And for what she is charging for her pups, she ought to be able to get a camera for her clients. Sorry, I'm just feeling frustrated right along with you. I wish you the best,

The main reason I wanted to see the puppy is because, I don't trust her, I'm thinking * what leftover is she going to make me pay for. I'm absolutly in no way saying that any puppy is not worth loving, I'm saying that I can't go through the heart break again, I just can't. I would wait for years if I knew it would lead to the "right" one (puppy). I hope I didn't come across to the breeder that all I wanted was a puppy now, now, now.

[honeybrown_43]

So sorry for your lose but I would not pay her a dime for another puppy. If you want another one I would look for another breeder.

[whispersmom2]

Did not sound to me like you were just trying to get a free puppy from her. Sounds like she wants to get another puppy in your hands so you will not make her live up to her responsibilities..

[twinkletoes]

Originally Posted by honeybrown_43

So sorry for your lose but I would not pay her a dime for another puppy. If you want another one I would look for another breeder.

Thank you, I'm really not sure what I'm going to do. I will never get another one that little. I'm not saying they aren't healthy, it's just that when they do get ill, they don't have any reserves. I had to protect her constantly, when I couldn't keep a constant eye on her I would keep her in a baby playpen with her blankets, toys, food, & water on one side and a Dogwiz on the other in my kitchen. When I would take a shower I would bring her in the bathroom with me and shut the door so I knew where she was (she use to peek into the curtain bouncing at me to let her in). I learned to drag my feet as I walked so I wouldn't step on her (I still catch myself doing it). There are just so many things that I did to try and give her the best life possible (nutacal as treats for "good potties"). I would warm her wet dog food up and fix her "pony" (top knot) every morning before we went to work. The list goes on, even though all I did, I still wonder "what if I". I'm sorry, I'm rambling. Deep breath, gulp, wipe. Thank you guys so much, you have no idea how much your replies mean to me. Amy

[SandyTXn]

I was devastated over your story, as I know you still are. I think some of the wonderful people have given you some great advice. I wish you luck and I hope you get another yorkie to fill that empty place. Not to replace Zoe, but to help your heart heal. My prayers to you and little Zoe.

I am also a groomer. I specialized in small and toy dogs. I checked out your grooming web site. It is soooo cute! I love the before and after shots. You do a great job!!! I to am a very kind and gentle groomer.........whatever it takes to make that furbaby happy. Right? I'm the gentle groomer! Take care of your sweet self and stay in touch with Yorkie Talk.......WE CARE!!!!!

[red98vett]

Oh amy...Bless your heart....no ....all dogs do not have popping knees and she DID know about this before she shipped her....there's no way she didn't because it sounds really bad for a yorkie so young to have bad LP at 5 months....Her email alone says alot about her ethics as a breeder. Not good.

I'm so sorry you had such a bad experience and I would take my time if I were you and try to work this out where either you DO get a new puppy at no charge ...or you try to recoup your money from her...which is doubtful.

What a hard thing to go thru......losing your baby AND that much money is a double whammy....It's possible she can replace that poor baby with another but I sure wouldn't give her another dime.

[twinkletoes]

Originally Posted by SandyTXn

I was devastated over your story, as I know you still are. I think some of the wonderful people have given you some great advice. I wish you luck and I hope you get another yorkie to fill that empty place. Not to replace Zoe, but to help your heart heal. My prayers to you and little Zoe.

I am also a groomer. I specialized in small and toy dogs. I checked out your grooming web site. It is soooo cute! I love the before and after shots. You do a great job!!! I to am a very kind and gentle groomer.........whatever it takes to make that furbaby happy. Right? I'm the gentle groomer! Take care of your sweet self and stay in touch with Yorkie Talk.......WE CARE!!!!!

Thank you, I love what I do and I want the animals to feel the same way! When an owner has to drag a dog into my shop I feel a sence of embarrassment and I immediately think to myself that I need to do something to make this more enjoyable, let him know it's okay and we are going to have fun! I've found bribery works well, you know how they say "the way to a mans heart is through his stomach" well I've found that men and dogs are very similar in that way. No pun intended..lol Thank you, amy

[JeanieK]

My heart goes out to you. It must have been so awful for you.

I heard a story just the other day, and I can't rememhber the name of the breeder or where they were from, but the story was, that they got this tiny Yorkie that they had paid a fortune for and after they got it, it grew like crazy, so the belief was, that the breeder deliberately starved her to keep her tiny because people will pay more for a tiny one. This story had a happy ending, but still, How horrible to think that anyone would do that.

I have decided that when I have puppies, people will get a book on Yorkies when they make their deposit, so they know what is normal and what to watch for.

Good Luck to you on what ever you decide to do. I have a feeling if you tell her that you are contacting a lawyer, that she will replace your puppy AND pay the shipping free of charge.

Jeanie

[twinkletoes]

Originally Posted by red98vett

Oh amy...Bless your heart....no ....all dogs do not have popping knees and she DID know about this before she shipped her....there's no way she didn't because it sounds really bad for a yorkie so young to have bad LP at 5 months....Her email alone says alot about her ethics as a breeder. Not good.

I'm so sorry you had such a bad experience and I would take my time if I were you and try to work this out where either you DO get a new puppy at no charge ...or you try to recoup your money from her...which is doubtful.

What a hard thing to go thru......losing your baby AND that much money is a double whammy....It's possible she can replace that poor baby with another but I sure wouldn't give her another dime.

"Double Whammy" was my exact words that I had told my husband. I didn't have the money in the first place to buy a puppy but I searched the web anyway and found Zoe, I had to have her. And it just so happens I had applied for my very first credit card a few weeks earlier and received it in the mail that day, I thought to myself that this must be "meant to be". It had a $2000.00 limit and I maxed it that day. So here I am, still paying. Not to mention the $300.00 to ship her. All said and done, I would pay another $2300.00 to have her here with me. I don't have it, but I would find it somehow. Amy

[twinkletoes]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

My heart goes out to you. It must have been so awful for you.

I heard a story just the other day, and I can't rememhber the name of the breeder or where they were from, but the story was, that they got this tiny Yorkie that they had paid a fortune for and after they got it, it grew like crazy, so the belief was, that the breeder deliberately starved her to keep her tiny because people will pay more for a tiny one. This story had a happy ending, but still, How horrible to think that anyone would do that.

I have decided that when I have puppies, people will get a book on Yorkies when they make their deposit, so they know what is normal and what to watch for.

Good Luck to you on what ever you decide to do. I have a feeling if you tell her that you are contacting a lawyer, that she will replace your puppy AND pay the shipping free of charge.

Jeanie

Oh my gosh, I wonder how they even kept the puppy alive doing that. The risk of low blood sugar would be out of control. Poor baby, and that is exactly what money can make people do. That's very sad, Amy.