Originally Posted by BlumoonYorkies

I think that Biewer Terriers look like nice little dogs. They tend to be a little bigger than a Yorkie. I hope someday they do get AKC recognized. I hope breeders breed for level toplines and the Tri-colors. When I was a child my mom and I had a pet Yorkie and my step sister who was older than myself had a Maltese. When she went on vacation my mom watched her Maltese. Well not knowing much about heat cycles and such as our yorkie was only 1 1/yrs. old. She came into heat at some point while the Maltese was visiting and low and behold she started getting bigger! My mom being worried ran her to the vet only to find out she was PG and due anyday! The puppies were adroable. One was all Black with 4 white feet and white tipped tail, the chest hair was brown and the body coat was black. Not like a puppy Yorkie as it stayed that way but more like a nice maltese coat only black. One looked exactly like a yorkie, and the other one was brown, black and white all over. All 3 boys and of course my mom gave them to friends and relatives. I saw all 3 as adults and they pretty much stayed the same coloring as they were when they left our home except the one that looked like a Yorkie his head turned all gold with maturity. The two who did not look like a yorkie had a coat that matted easier than the Yokire silk coat does, and required more grooming time simialr to the Maltese coats. Having had this expericne I am positive that Beiwers came down from at least these two breeds. It amazed me how two of them looked just like what is now called Beiwers. Oh and all the ears stood up and we never did anything to make them stand, and my mom never did dock the tails on the two who looked like Bewiers only on the one who looked like the Yorkie. But the Beiwer looking ones were bigger in size than our Yorkie standard, and the Yorkie looking one was 5 lbs.
I also do not think they should have the name Yorkshire in the naming of this new breed, it should have it's own name like Bewier terriers that some have mentioned. This way they will have ther eown merrit and pride of there seperate breed!

Originally Posted by whispersmom2

Welcome, BluMoon. I have seen the ads for BluMoon Yorkies for a long time so I know she is experienced and has lovely dogs. But, her feelings are hers and mine are mine and all of us love this forum because we can express our feelings/opinions whether they agree or disagree.
Thanx for pointing out she is a new member and I apologize for not posting a welcome before this..

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

I like that visual. I have Yorkies and I want to measure my progress with teh AKC. If I keep my Biewer as a 'Yorkie' in the eyes of the AKC judge. Then I am not able to measure my Biewer program and improve. Ah ha!! Light bulb just went on.

Originally Posted by goldenray

It doesn't matter if Germany keeps a stud book, that is not a recognized registry, even in Germany. The US needs to form it's own club and maintain it's own stud book. They would become part temporarily of the Rare Breeds Club and look forward to being a recognized breed of it's own. So I think we are in accordance here as I also think they should have their own status. I am talking with some Biewer people now and have offered my help in getting this all off the ground.

I am in no way knocking the Biewer as it's own breed. There are some real cute pictures posted here and think they deserve recognition as a breed.

Originally Posted by Stormy

I just got my little Guy in from Germany this week.
I totally agree with you,Rini, Cher and Jakeepaper and will be appreciative of your efforts to help have the Biewers recognized as a breed of their own. I have owned Yorkies for over 30 years, I do not breed or show but Yorkies are the love of my life.I have 6 here now. I certainly do not think the Biewers can be judged by our AKC Yorkshire terrier standards.They are indeed precious little wonderful dogs and do deserve to be recognized in a place of their own.

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

I to avoid further confusion. I'd like to CLARIFY...My name is IRENE, I ONLY have TRUE BIEWERS...

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Boy, would I love the chance to be confused with Wispersmom (Rini). What a
wonderful, caring and thoughtful member of yorkie talk.

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Boy, would I love the chance to be confused with Wispersmom (Rini). What a
wonderful, caring and thoughtful member of yorkie talk.

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

Rini,

I'm not saying Cruiser is NOT a BIEWER. If I'm not mistaken he is half brother to DICE..my BIEWER male. A Biewer is not crossed with a Yorkie. TRUE, means mine are NOT a mixed with a YORKIE.

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Perhaps, I am mistaken, but I have not heard of any serious Biewer breeders wanting them shown with standard colors..makes no sense. A number of breeds have more then one classification to be shown separate. Isn't this want Biewer beeders want?..or do they want them to be recognized as a separate breed all together?

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

Rini,

I'm not saying Cruiser is a BIEWER. If I'm not mistaken he is half brother to DICE..my BIEWER male. A Biewer is not crossed with a Yorkie. True means mine are NOT a mixed with a YORKIE.

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

That just doesnt' look right. Let me say it this way...Your little Cruiser may be a BIEWER. Is he crossed with a Yorkie? If he is, the he is NOT a Biewer.

Originally Posted by Stormy

As a new owner of a pet Biewer directly in from Germany.....I agree with this post. Lots to be discussed, but can it be done in a friendly pleasant manner ? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Originally Posted by PlatinumYorkies

Irene, is your "True Biewer" on your website? Do their papers say they are such? I am so confused, can you help me out, please??? :confused:

Originally Posted by PlatinumYorkies

Irene, is your "True Biewer" on your website? Do their papers say they are such? I am so confused, can you help me out, please??? :confused:

Originally Posted by gymbo68

I think we got it YOURS ARE TRUE--
pretty clear after reading posts- but anyone can offer opinions- you have welcomed them on other threads...

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Are you kidding me? I've been confused since about page 2 or 3 or this thread...the other, almost identical one too! I don't have anything helpful to add to this argument cause I don't breed them, don't have them, heck, I've never even SEEN one. I thought that this would be an interesting thread to read because I am so uninformed on them and I think they are beautiful and they originated from Yorkies...or at least that's what I thought. :confused: All I see is a bunch of people insulting others because each one thinks they know more than the other and alot of 'they are this' and 'they are that.' By now I couldn't tell you if they are like Yorkies, unlike Yorkies, heck...I don't even know if they have 4 legs at this point! :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

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Misty..You are killing me..that was hilarious..I about peed my pants laughing!

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Ha ha ha...just trying to add some humor and keep things civil. ;)
Off the subject, I actually thought about you earlier--I went to Dairy Queen and got a chocolate blizzard...I can't even go there anymore without you popping in my head....don't know if that's good or bad... :p

Originally Posted by whispersmom2

I am wondering something.. What if a pic of a Biewer were in say, a coloring book. The Yorkie colors were colored in..Then, same pic and Biewer colors put in. Wonder how different they would look? I have thought about that for a long time!! Boy, tells you how scientific my brain is, huh?? Or, even, a parti thrown into the mix...That is another consideration..

Originally Posted by StewiesMom

I'm no scientist nor a Biewer expert, but I think this example is a wonderful one :thumbup: Very clear and illustrates the whole "point" beautifully.