I shared MY experience. You didn't upset me at all.

There are others who have also been there and seen what I saw. I was very new to yorkies then - IF I knew then what I know now - I would have turned around and walked away.

Her 'Fire' story was sad... but she STATED to me it had just happened and I was looking at her brand new yorkies.

Someone I know in Houston bought a yorkie from her and heard the same story 2 YEARS before I bought Chanel. Believe me - her and I compared notes. Her yorkie is now over 6 years old and has had 2 knee surgeries ..weighs over 14 lbs. and has severe allergies... bless her heart.

Glad you like her - but seeing as these are your only posts on this site - I have to think you're just a friend of hers coming here to defend her...which is FINE with me - but don't knock what I said - I only stated MY EXPERIENCE when I posted this thread over a year ago.

I will add this - IF I was positive I could get another Chanel - I would. Loving my yorkie does NOT mean I have to love her breeder - I wish I did.

IF I'm hanging on her wall - it's the picture WE took. She probably uses it to sell puppies ....because I brought MY camera and my husband took pictures of her and I.

Belive me...ONE week after that picture was taken - I was not smiling - I had a very sick puppy on my hands and NO BREEDER to offer me advise....Lucky for us.... Emergency Vets are open 24/7.

Her and 'Sandy' were nothing short of rude to both my husband AND me.

Oh..and one more thing - I have never called her a 'demon' but she is unethical. Selling 6 week old puppies is far too young to be letting them go. When I brought Chanel home - she was so tiny - 16 ounces. She is now a healthy whopping 10 lbs plus and I love her to pieces.

Please don't confuse my posting about this breeder as a personal vendetta - I shared because she sells a TON of yorkies and once they are sold - don't expect any help. Ethical Breeders would be concerned for the welfare of the puppies. Betty is not.

did I mention the FLEAS AND EAR MITES Chanel had ? Well - that was treated too.

I would actually THANK her for my baby if she had ever returned a call from me.

ok. I'm done. Nice to meet you and good luck. Maybe you can stay around and post on the site ? I'd love to hear more from you.

I still wish you the best, and I truly am sorry for the problems you had. Fleas, ticks, ect... I would think all breeders fight that problem. I take my dogs to the vet all the time, but if they get out, they get fleas! Thank God we don't get ticks, those are so nasty! I wish there was a perfect place where all puppies stayed the size they were suppose to, never got sick, and most of all, never died. I have lost a few dogs in my life, and I would take on ticks to have them back. I think most breeders try their best to offer good animals. I think any breeder can have fleas, ticks, and even sick dogs at times without knowing it. If anyone could predict the true size of a dog, then we would all have 5 pounders. If anyone reading this is looking to go buy a puppy, then know going into it that no matter if it's a big breeder or a person that has only her one female with puppies, have your puppy checked by a vet that you know and trust. If you have something wrong and go back to any breeder the next day with a note from your vet stating that this is not a good choice, then I would think any court in this country would back you up on getting your money back (not your heart, I fall in love on site). What happened here I think could have been fixed, but I really don't know. When I bought my dogs I only knew that they had the cutest faces of any dogs I had ever seen. At that point you could have sold me a pile of poop and I wouldn't have know it. My whole heart was set on what it needed, but I did go to the vet the next day and have them checked. I also bought a bad puppy one time, but I took it back the next day to the pet store. It's sad to hear start out stories like this one, but I am glad to know it at least has a somewhat happy ending. You do have your dog and love it everyday. To be honest with you I am not sure if my puppies had fleas, the vet would have taken care of that at that time, and I still have to treat them all the time to this day. Find a Yorkie, take it to the vet, and then take it home and love it with all you have. My girl is getting old and needs lovin all the time, so I will sign off now. Red98Vett, I do hope you the best, and hate to hear the problems you had with your girl. We both went to the same " store " and bought the same thing, but didn't walk away with the same product. That is why I would tell everyone to play it safe with any and everyone, and have your puppies checked even if it comes from someone you trust. Enjoy your Yorkie, and what a pretty one you have! Take Care

Same to you ...I hope you can stick around a little - this site is great for posting the bad AND the good -

I'm happy you had a great experience - Was it 15 years ago you bought your yorkies ? I'd love to see your pictures....I do enjoy meeting other people who did purchase from this breeder but to be honest - you're the 1st one that said something nice....WHICH I'm glad to hear....

and I am just like you - I FELL IN LOVE with Chanel on site. In the 4 years I've had her now I know how a good breeder would respond.

This was my baby after the emergency visit on the road to recovery...I stayed up for days with her....I'm still in awe of her :) but remember her 1st few weeks like it was yesterday....

Thanks for posting....glad we each understood the other.

Sorry, just got caught up on this old thread... didn't realize it had come to life again.

I just wanted to say that my husband and I personally visited Betty 2 years ago with the intention of buying a little girl she had. We saw her ad in the Houston Chronicle. This was to be my first Yorkie and although I didn't know much about them, what I saw at Betty's place made me want to run away fast. Out in the yard were a LOT of Yorkies - all cut down short - and on the covered porch of her trailer house was a whole bunch more. There were some separate ones in cages too that she called her "teens" and they were for sale also. These dogs looked nothing like any Yorkies in the magazines and books I'd been looking at. They were quite grungy looking. She also had a play pen inside that was really stinky where I guess she kept the puppies at times. I only looked at and held the one girl puppy she had (I think it was about 8 weeks old) and what I saw in her eyes made me really sad. I had to take my husband outside to talk to him and I told him that what I really wanted to do was get this puppy out of this situation but that I was afraid it would be a big mistake. The puppy was stinky and oily and just overall sad-looking.

When I told Betty that we had one other puppy to go look at and then we'd decide, of course she tried the "well, it may not be here when you come back" speech but I just couldn't take that puppy without comparing it to the other we wanted to see. We then drove all the way to the other breeder's house - all the way wondering if we were giving up a good puppy. When we pulled up to the other breeder's house, we both just looked at each other and smiled. My husband said "let's tell her we'll take all three she has!". That was just our first impression. SO completely different than our impression (first and last) of Betty and her and her dog's surroundings. Tatum's breeder was so helpful - patiently answering all of our questions and giving us lots of space and time to pick our puppy. At the same time, she had a Cavalier King Spaniel (is that right?) in labor and we even went to peek at the mom and marvel at the whole birthing process. We left there with Tatum knowing that we had definitely made the right decision.

After we left, we stopped into a Petsmart to grab a couple things and the first person we ran into asked if I was holding a Yorkie. When she asked who we got her from, she told me that she and her sister also had Yorkies from this breeder. She said unfortunately, one of her sister's had a bad seizure and died shortly after getting her but that this breeder had replaced it with another and neither of them have had any further problems. That kinda scared me to tell you the truth. I had to have faith that this was not a common problem for her litters. We are fortunate to have had Tatum now for two years this month and I have never had a healthier dog. She is about 5 lbs. and very proportionate. She has the sweetest personality and is so well behaved.

I do not out-right advertise our breeder's names unless personally asked because in all honesty, not knowing what I know NOW about this breed and about unethical breeders, I probably did not ask her all the right questions and check everything out sufficiently. I knew to ask to see the parents and she did bring them to the house to show me. She had a separate building (like a small barn-type building) next to the house that she had her dogs in. I honestly do not know how many breeding moms she has. I'm satisfied that what we received from her is exactly what we wanted and I hope that she continues to provide such healthy pups.

Sorry for the novel-length post but I wanted to share my experience with Betty so that it's not just Villette's opinions here. V, Chanel is just precious and has turned out to be a lovely girl despite the scary times you started out with. You were definitely lucky.

WHEN DID YOU GET A PUPPY????? WOW!!! WHAT'S HER NAME? ANY PICS YET??????? :thumbup:

WOW Thank you Cindy...I DO feel lucky with Chanel...I have a friend I wish had the same luck with her girl from Betty... but she's had a huge amount of medical bills. If I could wish one thing - it would be for HER yorkie to be as healthy as Chanel.

That was a perfect description of what I saw too. Back 4 years ago - I relied on my husband's experience in getting a puppy - (he had 3 cocker spaniels before meeting me) ....and we did get one together... BUT since finding the net and yorkie sites - I've come A LONG WAY BABY...from my ignorance of long ago.

IF I were to walk into a "Betty" situation again ...I'd turn around and get in my car too....You really described her place to a T. I didn't see the cages on the porch - but I have a feeling she 'fixed' the place up before our visit...

and yes ...all the yorkies were shaved down to the skin. I remember that very well because she showed me the so called MOM and who could tell ? they all had no hair....NONE.

I really did fall in love with Chanel. I regret nothing ...but I will never refer her to anyone....when people ask me about Chanels Breeder - I'm honest and say expect nothing from her if the puppy becomes sick or has medical problems... God Forbid.

That was a good post and thanks for sharing.

LOL !! Someone bumped this thread up - it's ONE year old !! I still just have Chanel & Cheri -

you're so cute - I see why you thought I got a new one and believe me - I WANT ONE :) :) :)

Hey Villette, that was ME (Angie... in Brenham) that posted about my visit to Betty! :p But Cindy just asked about your new puppy and I was just about to tell her that your post was from 2004 and that you were talking about when you got Cheri.

Sorry Girls!! Didn't Read The Date!! Silly Me.. It's Friday..give A Woman A Break.... Hee Hee

:D :D Don't sweat it..... when I read YOUR post, I said "WHAT?! Where have I been that I missed that??!". Then I thought, nah that can't be right and went back at the beginning and saw that it was one of her first posts. You got me wondering though too! :D

LOL !! I knew that and couldnt edit lol !! I've known you a long time now .....its really good to see you posting !!

I know, I've been here for close to two years and am only just now over 500 posts. :rolleyes: I read a lot but don't really have time to post much unless the boss is away. But if it's something I feel passionate about, I'll jump in there! And Betty is someone I think everyone should be warned about. All we can do is tell about our personal experience but if anyone in our area doubts us, they can go check her out for themselves.

Hi. This post was brought to my attention. So, I have to add my two cents, too.

First, let me start off by saying that Villette is a really sweet person and would never make up lies about anyone.

My husband and I bought a female yorkie six years ago from Betty. Betty wrote on my receipt, "Teacup Yorkie". Well, this 'teacup' yorkie is now 14 pounds. I know breeders can't truly predict the exact adult weight of a yorkie puppy, but most breeders come close and they know what they're breeders are likely to produce if they are repetable. I still have that receipt today.

Gracie has also had many, many problems. As an example, before the age of two, she had two knee surgeries to correct a congenital defect. Any repetitable breeder would not continue breeding breeders who pass bad qualities.

To this day, we are still having to shell out high vet bills due to her bad breeding. As far as what Villette was saying about Betty's dogs being kept outside and shaved down, well, I've been to Betty's house twice and have seen this both times.

Our puppy was also brought home with ear mites and ear infections. Puppies are NOT born with this problem. This problem is born from a lack of care and attention.

As far as fleas go, there is a product called Advantage.

Knowing what I know now about breeders, I wouldn't walk away from Betty's place, I would run.

I'm sorry if this comes across meanly, but it's simply the truth.

Jamie....you don't have a mean bone in your body ...and HUGS to Gracie - I love to think of her as Chanel's cousin.

I know she's been thru so much and you & your husband are the BEST Yorkie mom and dad....

She's a sweet girl and I just wish she didn't have the problems she's had. I hold her breeder responsible for that too. She knows what she's selling. :( She told us the same things she told you...and Chanel had the SAME problems except for the bad knees. No yorkie should have such bad knees that both had to be operated on before her 2nd birthday....Bless her heart.

I Am So Glad I Saw This Post
 

I was considering getting another puppy and had talked to Betty over the phone only. She sent me an email with a picture of the puppy, which looked precious. When I saw these posts, I immediately told her I'd changed my mind. I had just begun looking around, so I had not even gone to look at the puppy and hadn't wasted her time or mine. But, I could have, had I not have been warned by the wonderful YT members.

Thanks! :animal-pa

:eek: Villette ... I had forgotten what a precious little sweetie she was at that age and everything you all went through with her!!! I am glad this mossy old thread got revived!! :p It never hurts to refresh our memories ... the good and the bad! I am sad for all the babies that have had to endure the pain and suffering of bad breeders but sooo happy when one survives and grows up as beautiful and happy as your munchkins! ;)

It also makes me so thankful all over again that Patrick & I were fortunate enough to find a good breeder like Ava. We have been so blessed to have a healthy baby such as Toto but my heart absolutely breaks each time I hear of "what could have been".

:ribbonp: Hi, just wanted to let you know that I had gone to this site when we were looking to buy a puppy. I did not like her attitude when we spoke, I had a million questions that she could not or would not answer. And yes, when looking into the eyes of these little ones they did not have the bright glow in them. We have found a wonderful breeder and have bought 3 from them, they are a joy to have. All of mine live in the house and no cages.. Have you tried the FDA, local police department. If she is a licenced they may be able to revoke it. If you can get a petition going and submit it, animal control can then go in and look around. The sad part is, if they have shelter, food and water then its within the codes.. Good luck, I will sign any petition to stop the cruel treatment of animals.

People are probably tired of seeing my name on this thread :( but I wanted to say this last thing....

WHEN we post these kinds of REVIEWS on a breeder - it's not to bash the breeder - it's to warn others to look for the signs.

I really do love my Chanel and IF I Could get another just like her - I would...but after learning what GOOD Breeders are....I am 100% positive that the breeders I posted about are NOT. My intention is to help the next person. I get pm's from people asking who Chanel's breeder is & I'm happy to share.... but it comes with a warning when I respond. So always look around and if possible - try to find others that have dealt with the particular breeder you are thinking of using.....

Being NICE on the phone or on a visit doesn't make a breeder a good breeder - they want YOUR MONEY.

Bettyeanne ...youare always SO SWEET and thank you. I get so sad for the little puppies too - they didn't ask to be born :( and it's up to the breeder or person responsible for them to provide them with the BEST start in life.

It breaks my heart to hear about so many puppies will serious illnesses that can be prevented with simple medical attention. The suffering Chanel went thru was awful to witness ....and what makes it worse is it just lines the pockets of these so called 'breeders'. They actually make money off these sick dogs - the bad breeders never step in to help or offer support and medical bills can run into the hundreds of $$ QUICK.

For People Looking at Our Site for Advice on Breeders
 

Hi - can those who have a breeder they would recommend in Texas post them for the people who are looking for reputable breeders so they know where to go and won't be drawn in by one's that have bad reputations. I know it would be helpful. If we could start with the larger cities, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, & Dallas. I think everyone could get to these cities pretty easily. It would sure save them a lot of heartache in the end. :animal-pa

If someone wants to know the name of the breeder that I got Tatum from in the Houston area, please PM me so we can talk about it.

Brushy Creek Kennels
 

I wish I would have found this post prior to purchasing my Westie. I am looking for any information against this breeder and would like to know (outside the SPCA) what other agencies I can contact to file a complaint.

I purchased a westie, was told to have him vet checked with in 48 hours and told he has a year long warranty against any heredity health defects. I did not have to wait the complete 48 hours, he was sick the next day with an awful dry cough, pasty nose and alot of sneezing. I took him to a vet and was told him may have distemper. I called Brushy Creek back as the vet has suggested. David told me there was no way he had distemper, he was a bit offended and offered for me to see his vets bills. He stated that about three years ago, a "batch" of puppies had this same type illness due to the Bordetella (sp?). I took him to 2 more vets and they had the same consensus and had never heard of this reaction from a vaccine. Many vet bills later, my puppy is now a happy healty puppy. We did contact the breeder and she said to bring him to her and they would make him better (due to the fact that three educated vets could not cure), I guess they have the miracle cure. I left him there one night and picked him up the next day due to the thought sickened me that he had to spend one more night at that place.

When we picked him up, she had about 5 westies in the back of her truck, her truck was covered in feces, hay and flies. It was horrible. She also has a very emanciated Wheaten that she was trying to get better. That wheaten had the same symptoms that my westie had. She said she took her to the vet, but look at the ground when she answered. I have a feeling, that dog had not or has not been to a vet. I did ask to see the parents and kennels and they would not let me see them. I will say that the appearence of their office and house seems to be extremely clean. However, if one can get past it, I too believe it is another story.

Upon researching this kennel, I have found they breed a ridiculous amount of dogs and many people have the same experience and some alot worse than mine. If there is anyone out there with contact information to any governing authority, please let me know.

I do and will pm you with some help....:mad: How terrible for you - Brushy Creek is AWFUL And have sold many many sick dogs. I feel SO sorry for their puppies and the people who purchase them

I am new here to the yorkietalk and I do not own a yorkie but a shih tzu. I currently have an attorney working on getting my money back from that BRUSHY CREEK KENNEL:mad: I seen the ad in the houston chronicle for some shih tzu puppies and found their phone number listed I called, set up a time, got directions (very,, very far... 2hr drive) and went out that day they told me they had some pics on the web and I told them to hold one of the females in the pics, they seemed nice and all. When I arrived the place looked really nice (the office that is) they had a basket of the puppies they had available I even brought along my mom (she to was interested in purchasing a pup) when I seen the one they were holding for me she was really cute but her back leg was dragging behind her she couldn't even walk on it they told me that her leg muscle was not developed yet from being in the whelping box, and me being an idiot bought her anyways, there was a pup there that my mom was looking at that had what looked like to be eye ulcers b/c her eyes looked like they where popping out of her head. I felt so sorry for those babies. They told me I have a 1 yr guarantee which at the time I thought was good. The next day the puppy had diaherrea and was very sick she did not even know how to drink water! I practically had to teach her to drink, and when she did she then would vomit it up, this was a sunday and I would of took her to the vet but all were closed, so I waited till monday I said to myself if she is not better I will give the breeders a call, and she was worse, she wouldn't even move. So Dawn met me up half way and she told me that David was out of town (as usual) she told me I could wait until she got the pup feeling better (she said she was going to make an appointment with their vet) or I could pick out another pup that she brought with. When I arrived to bring the pup back I saw she had a small filthy,smelly cat carrier with 3 pups inside she picked them up and I was shocked!! They were covered in feces, there noses were runny, they smelled awful, those poor babies where emaciated, I rfused them and she put the pup I brought back in with those nasty pups, I knew I was never going to see her again (and I was right). That evening I called Dawn and asked if she took the pup to the vet and she told me she couldn't get the appointment until the next day, she said the pup was acting like she was homesick (whatever) anyways a few more days went on and I kept checking on the pup (I was the one calling them, they never called me with any news on the pups condition) finally, on the 4th day she told me she did take it to the vet and the vet said it was in good condition just homesick.. well to make a long story short I believe she never took the pup to the vet because that poor baby died in her care (I guess homesick is contagious and deadly) I now know it must of been parvo cause my other dog was showing those symptoms(but shes ok know) I was told I could not have my money back but another dog I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER DOG FROM THOSE @#$!& I was given the run around for 2 months being promised another pup even from people in Oklahoma and Dallas but was let down time and time again. I have decided to get an attorney and sue those stupid people and their puppymill, I also found out they breed 12-15 diffrent breeds of dogs I contacted the BBB as well and filed a complaint with them, I also posted on RIPOFFREPORT.COM I will make sure THEY WILL GO DOWN!!!!!! I NEED EVERYONES SUPPORT THAT HAVE EXPERIENCES WITH BRUSHY CREEK KENNEL.....I now own a precious, precious shih tzu pup girl that I bought from a lady that owned the parents as her pets and was very pleased with the condition she had the pups and the parents very clean and healthy living environment..All I can say is if you are looking for a puppy AVOID BREEDERS AND KENNELS.. look for individuals that have just pets. Had I known they had so many breeds of dogs there, I would of never bought from them!

Oh My GOD.

Oh my God that is HORRIBLE for you and that poor poor puppy ! If you need ANYTHING PLEASE PM ME - I may be able to give you some names and that just broke my HEART ! They need to be in JAIL !!!!!!!

I feel sick after reading your post and that just makes me HATE those awful people even more - the ones you dealt with are the same ones I met and they are NASTY NASTY Human beings.....I would have never bought the yorkie I saw but I DID want to save it from that HELL HOLE

Yeah I still feel extremely awful about that I just can't believe they are getting away with this until now I will make sure those bast_ _ ds will pay!
you can go to ripoff report.com and search under brushy creek kennel and theres at least 3 or 4 complaints on there. I have done my research on those idiots! I feel like rescueing all those poor babies and burning their place down, oh you know that nasty lady (Dawn) had the nerve to say that their dog selling paid for all the nice homes and land and office they have there. Can you believe that!

Brushy Creek Kennel
 

Oh this makes me so mad, woofshepard, I did send you a PM. I too wish I could rescue all of the poor little defenseless puppies from that place. I wish I would have done more research on them prior to purschasing my puppy...but had I done that, that would have been one less puppy rescued from that awful evil place. On the surface they portray themselves as reputable, knowledgable, caring, nice people. What a joke! Now that I am doing research after the fact, I have found that many people have the same situation with these people.