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Old 01-20-2018, 08:03 PM   #31
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There are many breeders who would disagree. You need more calories when you have little puppies taking your nutrition. I have also been through classes.
If you want to risk the dams that's fine. But if you're feeding a high quality diet key words being high quality there's no need to feed puppy food. Yes dams need extra nutrition which is why you increase food intake and just let the dam eat as much as she wants towards the ending of the pregnancy. I usually free feed my dams at the end so they can eat as much as they want.
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:06 PM   #32
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I again disagree, I have been through the classes almost every parvo pup should be hospitalized. I’m thinking maybe the dogs your talking about might not have truly had full parvo or parvo at all. These are the symptoms of parvo https://www.petmd.com/dog/conditions...irus_infection they require fluids because of those symptoms and the smaller the dog the more severe and the more deadly.
Nope they have had parvo and have been tested to prove it. Parvo is a very common thing in the bully world and a lot of people are finding they can take care of the puppies themselves at home.
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The point is to say this isn’t a reputable rescue and they aren’t doing the right things. You do not take pregnant moms into a house we’re a pup just died of parvo because then you are setting her pups up for parvo and death and maybe her if she’s not vaccinated.
Had people been a little nicer she could've learned this. At the end of the day her intentions were good with some guidance she could've learned from her mistakes and improved her rescue. Chasing off someone because they made a couple wrong decisions helps no one and certainly doesn't help the dogs who have no say in the matter.
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If you want to risk the dams that's fine. But if you're feeding a high quality diet key words being high quality there's no need to feed puppy food. Yes dams need extra nutrition which is why you increase food intake and just let the dam eat as much as she wants towards the ending of the pregnancy. I usually free feed my dams at the end so they can eat as much as they want.
Breeding for many years doesn’t mean it’s being done right. Lots of vets recommend puppy food or something with higher calories.
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Nope they have had parvo and have been tested to prove it. Parvo is a very common thing in the bully world and a lot of people are finding they can take care of the puppies themselves at home.
This is a yorkie forum so we are referring to Yorkie’s who are very small as puppies and losing the slightest weight and dehydration can kill so they should be hospitalized.
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Had people been a little nicer she could've learned this. At the end of the day her intentions were good with some guidance she could've learned from her mistakes and improved her rescue. Chasing off someone because they made a couple wrong decisions helps no one and certainly doesn't help the dogs who have no say in the matter.
No on chased anyone off she chose to leave. She has been here before and known her mistakes. Not a reputable rescue and she and everyone else needs to know it. Buying dogs from a breeder to “rescue” is like buying a puppy from a pet store to “rescue”. It just gives them money to continue the cycle.
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Breeding for many years doesn’t mean it’s being done right. Lots of vets recommend puppy food or something with higher calories.
Many vets also don't know much about breeding period. They mostly just recycle things that they've heard or was taught but people are learning their ways and views are out dated to the least. I would say it's being done right when you barely have any c-sections most of your puppies live and go on to be service/therapy dogs, police dogs, Champions/ earn titles, and great working dogs, etc.
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This is a yorkie forum so we are referring to Yorkie’s who are very small as puppies and losing the slightest weight and dehydration can kill so they should be hospitalized.
There's no reason why they can't be hydrated at home it's very simple. Most people can even give fluids under the skin it's not complicated at all and most vets will even show them how if they ask.
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No on chased anyone off she chose to leave. She has been here before and known her mistakes. Not a reputable rescue and she and everyone else needs to know it. Buying dogs from a breeder to “rescue” is like buying a puppy from a pet store to “rescue”. It just gives them money to continue the cycle.
You could easily explain that but when you choose to go the higher than thou route most people stop listening no one wants to be talked down to. A lot of beginners think they are saving dogs by buying them from bybs it's not until someone explains and shows them that it's really not the answer do they get it. I know a couple rescuers who started out that way and learned they were doing nothing but helping bybs.
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I'm not saying I agreed with her decision at all. I was just pointing out not all parvo cases are hospitalized at the vet and with parvo it can take a drastic turn on the drop of a pin so saying the puppy died that night doesn't really prove anything I've seen puppies who looked like they were on their death beds make a full recovery and I've seen the opposite with puppies who seemed fine and just dropped out of nowhere. But what's done is done harping on someone and making them feel bad isn't going to reverse the decision all it's going to do is run them off which sadly is what happened.
She chose to leave...no one ran her off. When I dared to say that most rescues would spay females who were not that far along, she came back with a snide response. Not the first time she has done this. She and I have very different ideas about certain things regarding rescue. I think she came here for another reason...money. I have seen that before. She doesn't like suggestions even though she said that is what she was looking for. I see that all of her posts advertising were removed...she isn't a donating member...I believe that alone is the only reason she came here..money.

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You could easily explain that but when you choose to go the higher than thou route most people stop listening no one wants to be talked down to. A lot of beginners think they are saving dogs by buying them from bybs it's not until someone explains and shows them that it's really not the answer do they get it. I know a couple rescuers who started out that way and learned they were doing nothing but helping bybs.
She is not a beginner.
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Not all vets keep parvo cases most send them home with the owner unless they're really critical and require IV fluids around the clock.
The post said they were critical. The person who posted it must have seen that posted somewhere.....
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Many vets also don't know much about breeding period. They mostly just recycle things that they've heard or was taught but people are learning their ways and views are out dated to the least. I would say it's being done right when you barely have any c-sections most of your puppies live and go on to be service/therapy dogs, police dogs, Champions/ earn titles, and great working dogs, etc.
Again we are referring to Yorkies. Vets do know the healths of breeding.
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There's no reason why they can't be hydrated at home it's very simple. Most people can even give fluids under the skin it's not complicated at all and most vets will even show them how if they ask.
Most people do not know how to give fluids and most even if they did wouldn’t be comfortable doing. Most also require nausea meds and antidiarrheal medicine. Depending on how bad the bleeding in the stool is some might need hemoglobin. Small dogs are nothing to play with and the majority of them should be hospitalized except in rare occasions.
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You could easily explain that but when you choose to go the higher than thou route most people stop listening no one wants to be talked down to. A lot of beginners think they are saving dogs by buying them from bybs it's not until someone explains and shows them that it's really not the answer do they get it. I know a couple rescuers who started out that way and learned they were doing nothing but helping bybs.
She was not a newbie at this. If you came before all the posts of hers were deleted you would see it was a money grab. I believe this person was talked to multiple times before about how what she was doing was wrong. At some point you just have to stop sugar coating it and put it out there. People who were donating to her also deserve to know the truth. If she wanted to follow the rules she could easily have donated and gone about it the right way.
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