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01-12-2006, 04:18 PM | #91 | |
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I posted about my girl that I lost because my yorkies are not only "stock" they are my beloved companions as well. I am an expert on trial and error. After 10 yrs I'm still learning every day. My family also bred quarter horses for show. I watched my dad for years before he passed go through with his horses exactly what I go through now with my yorkies. And I must say that he did suceed in the end. He will always be what keeps me focused. | |
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01-12-2006, 04:29 PM | #92 | |
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Do most show breeders?I know the show breeders on here do, but are there some who don't? It also brings to mind the fact that some breeders when they retire their breeding dogs, they rehome them. I don't think I could rehome a 6,7 or 8 year old pet. Is that a bad thing for me to say? | |
01-12-2006, 04:45 PM | #93 |
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| Kim -Harley is a dream come true- I can't wait to see those babies. Last edited by simonandhallie; 01-13-2006 at 05:40 AM. |
01-12-2006, 04:48 PM | #94 | |
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True, no one is going to learn a lot about breeding practices because of the direction this thread took. It's a shame. I think a person visiting Yorkie talk who is ready to buy a puppy could get a real education about how caring some breeders can be. Three or Four out of Eighty posts is not too good. IMO you can take anything and turn it into a teaching opportunity. I am sorry some of you feel it's a waste of time. I realize you talk to people all the time and many times they chose to buy from a petstore anyway. I can't imagine how frustrating that must be. Those people won't "get it" unless "it" affects their pocketbook. You wouldn't want them taking home your precious puppy anyway right? One can learn only so much from a phone conversation or even a book that lists all the things you should ask. I ran into things I had never even thought of and I did a LOT of research. I sure read things on here all the time that I didn't see in any book! There isn't anything like going through real life experiences with people. If you feel like your personal space is invaded by the question just don't answer. It's not like we called you and you have to hang up great tool we have here. we can use it. or not. peace. Last edited by shelbysmom; 01-12-2006 at 04:50 PM. | |
01-12-2006, 05:25 PM | #95 | |
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__________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley | |
01-12-2006, 05:48 PM | #96 | |
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01-12-2006, 06:39 PM | #97 | |
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__________________ Toto's Mom - http://www.dogster.com/?206581 Yorkie Rescue Colorado - http://www.yorkierescuecolorado.com/ "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." -- Albert Einstein | |
01-13-2006, 08:00 AM | #98 |
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| I wanted to be a breeder, I researched and did all the right things as far as I knew.... I had a litter, and won't have anymore- my heart can't take it. Yes I loved seeing the happy faces of the people who bought my pups, but all the worry regarding the breeding, welping and then the pups growing was too much for me. So my hats off to those that can, and do breed. My question is though to you socal... do you know how dangerous it is to drive a vehicle these days? do you still drive? do you still bring your precious pups in the vehicle with you? regardless if they are restrained or not, they have a greater chance dying or being injured in a vehicle than they do if they were left home..... So I am wondering, if you can not understand how a breeder can put an female at risk to breed her, my question to you is... how can you put your life, your families life and your yorkies life in danger while driving or riding in a vehicle? it is a risk each time you do- but do you still do it? why? is it worth your yorkies life? |
01-13-2006, 08:33 AM | #99 | |
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01-13-2006, 08:33 AM | #100 |
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01-13-2006, 08:41 AM | #101 | |
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__________________ Mommy Loves Codie, Tia & Baby Cali RIP My Precious Katie - I Love You | |
01-13-2006, 08:53 AM | #102 | |
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Let me begin by saying that you will not find anywhere where I said that I "do not understand how a breeder can put a female to risk to breed her" (I am quoting from your post).....I have never said that......I have often asked what the motivation IS because I am a curious person and most say it is not to support their families because there is no profit in it, but I know they who do it have good and perfectly valid reasons for doing so. In life...there are lots of risks..we take them every day and every day we have to balance the degree of risk with the benefit from taking the risk in everything we do. I agree that driving a car is a risk but it is one that we all have weighed and researched with mostly insurance and highway patrol atatisitics and determined that the risk of serious accident is small enough and the benefit outweighs the smallness of the risk, so we participate in driving. In order to weigh the risk of breeding a female yorkie...one must first find out exactly what that risk actually is as best they can just as we did before deciding whether vehicular transportation was worth the risk to us. If the risk is small and only say one is 10,000 yorkies die during whelping or pregnancy or post pregnancy from complications then we may be more willing to take the risk than if we found out that the statistics show that one in four yorkies for example have complications. (This is a hypothetical..I am not throwing that one in four figure out there as the risk) My reason for starting the thread was to be able to tell those who are considering breeding what the actual risk is so that they will think really hard about breeding and, if they decide to accept the risk, they will do so knowing what it is, and they will go from there to do whatever they can to minimize that risk by using the very best veterinary care all throughout the process, by having a mentor, by reading all the books and materials on yorkie breeding they can find, by attending whelpings before attempting it themselves, etc. It is one thing to say..are you willing to risk the life of your female, which is what most breeders will ask prospective breeders now, and another to say ...did you know that one in four breeding female yorkies dies due to pregnancy complications? or whatever the accurate statistics are. This thread wasn't intended to criticize good breeders...I would never do that.....while I don't have it in me to be a breeder for the same reasons you mentioned, I have complete respect for those who do the hard work in a reputable and ethical way to produce these beautiful babies that we get to enjoy. As you mentioned...there are risks in life and we must know what they are to be able to better plan how to minimize them and to make the decision about which ones are too great to warrant the possible benefits. And they are all individual decisions that no one else can make for us. Last edited by SoCalyorkiLvr; 01-13-2006 at 08:56 AM. | |
01-13-2006, 08:54 AM | #103 |
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| good info. now we know all breeders are indeed the same when it comes to how they feel about their females. there is some risk, that's life. sort of like driving a car. 102 posts and this is the conclusion. |
01-13-2006, 09:03 AM | #104 | |
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01-13-2006, 09:29 AM | #105 | |
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Is that anything like are we there yet mom. Sure hope so | |
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