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sylvan · 07-30-2005, 03:11 PM

The method I was taught by my mentor is similar to Pat's except we use a small rubber band as a clamp on the tail, and then remove the dew claws with small surgical scissor, daub on some clotisol, and then quick scissor snip for the tail and another daub of clotisol on the end. No stitches, very little bleeding and usually no cries. I heat up a bag of uncooked rice in the microwave and wrap it in towels and put it in a big bowl beforehand, so there is a warm spot for them to be placed after sorry kisses. After a minute or so we remove the rubber band and keep checking for bleeding for about 15 minutes until they go back to mom. Mom's won't lick the clotisol, but we keep a close eye on the tails and claws just in case. Also keep the rubbing alchohol handy to sterilize everything (rubber bands, scissors etc..).

yorkiegal719 · 07-30-2005, 06:56 PM

You guys are brave, I think that if I ever had puppies I would just let the vet do them. I'm a wus when it comes to hurting them, even though they say it's relativly painless

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sylvan · 07-30-2005, 07:37 PM

it's godawful and I hate doing it, but I don't like to expose them or the momma to a stressful trip to the vet at this time if I don't have to. So it's deep breaths a quick prayer for guidance and off we go. I just wish they would change the guidelines the way they have in Europe and eliminate docking altogether. The pup I gave my mom for mothers day has hers and it's lovely. I didn't dock her 'cause I knew where she was headed.

whispersmom2 · 07-31-2005, 10:28 AM

It is scary when you see blood and your puppies in the same picture!! I also use the surgical clamps for tails and dew claws. Don't want to take my babies to the vet where there are so many SICK dogs. I hold my puppies the entire time I am docking and they really do not like being held on their backs..that is when they cry and squirm to get right side up. I do keep a suture handy in case there is bleeding from the tail and in all the years I have used it once..That was in the beginning and I took the clamp off too soon. There is no bare spot on the end of the tail when the clamp is used but the little bit of flesh that is in the clamp will dry up and get knocked off of I can twist it off after a week or two. This procedure is very much like we used to doint the delivery room for humans and later when the umbilical cord dries up and is ready to come off..
I did try using the rubber band ONCE but I could not manage to be quick about it and hold my baby to do the wrapping. The clamp is zip! and you're done and you just wait to finish the job. I do not have help when I do the tails, etc.

inzane001 · 08-01-2005, 05:38 PM

Why do you dock your Yorkies tail? What are the advantages of docking your Yorkies tail if any at all?

YorkieRose · 08-01-2005, 05:50 PM

I perfer a docked tail, but that is because you really do not see them in the ring without the tails being according to the standard.
Docking is bloodless now with the clamp method and new lasers.

PinkMartini · 08-01-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by inzane001

Why do you dock your Yorkies tail? What are the advantages of docking your Yorkies tail if any at all?

Most people dock their yorkies tails because that is the standard for the breed. As far as advantages/disadvantages I don't know of any. Maybe someone here does

feminvstr · 08-01-2005, 06:15 PM

originally tail docking was done as a preventive measure as to not damage the tail on hunting dogs, then hygiene, then breed standard.

sarahr · 08-01-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PinkMartini

Most people dock their yorkies tails because that is the standard for the breed. As far as advantages/disadvantages I don't know of any. Maybe someone here does

I'm taking a total shot in the dark here!! Ok, some working dogs have their tails docked so they didn't get in the way of their job right? Yorkies used to be used for chasing rats out of the mines and stuff, so maybe they started to dock them so it was out of the way? I dunno. Here's another theory. Ok the tail is like an extremity, there is cirulation in it and everything, so maybe it if the temperatures or weather was a factor it would keep the energy in the core of the body? I really dont know just a crazy thought!!

sarahr · 08-01-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by feminvstr

originally tail docking was done as a preventive measure as to not damage the tail on hunting dogs, then hygiene, then breed standard.

Thats kinda what i was getting at but i couldn't think of it

sylvan · 08-01-2005, 06:57 PM

Hey, credit where credit is due...I realized after reading Rini's post that I did NOT mention the fact that I have HELP. I don't know how she does it by herself...I feel like I need six hands of my own even with help. Tom usually does the scissor work, while I do the prep and the holding and the clotisol and the kisses. He can't stand holding them 'cause he doesn't like the way you can feel the snip through their little bodies. It's really gruesome and I can't stand it either, but somebody's gotta. Geez, I should really move to France.

YorkieRose · 08-01-2005, 07:05 PM

I don't even take them out of the bed from mom...they lay there and I dock them while they nurse..they cry a bit, but go right back to the nipple. I perfer, no help.

feminvstr · 08-01-2005, 07:24 PM

I dont know how you guys can do it...@ 5 days I take mine to the vet and have them lasered along with the declaws and their first vet check...so easy, no muss no fuss!

ok I am a whimp on some things, my toes curl, my tummy turns and my eyes cross with the thought of doing it myself...and believe me that is not a pretty picture

sylvan · 08-02-2005, 04:31 AM

Pat and Rini, you are my heroes. How do you keep the momma from trying to 'help' you, or is it a magical mystery trick....lol?

Tauni · 08-02-2005, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I use a small surgical clamp outside the gold on the underside of the tail..depends on the length you perfer. remember clamping length and cutting length are different.
Leave clamp for a couple mins...then hold the tail by the base where the clamp is and hold the end of tail. Twist off, might take 10 turns. Leave clamp on another couple mins and remove. No need to surture,m no blood or open wound. I have never had any infection. Do the same for the dew claws..use a small clamp to get a good hold on the claw..they are so tiny. Good luck

I have never done this but have been told that you can tie fishing line tight on the dew claw and they will die from no blood flow and come off. Has anyone ever done this??? And can this be done with adult as well as pup?

Thanks
Tauni

07-30-2005, 06:56 PM	#17
yorkiegal719 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 603	You guys are brave, I think that if I ever had puppies I would just let the vet do them. I'm a wus when it comes to hurting them, even though they say it's relativly painless ... __________________ Theresa & The Boys +1 The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue

08-01-2005, 05:38 PM	#20
inzane001 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 70	Question? Why do you dock your Yorkies tail? What are the advantages of docking your Yorkies tail if any at all? __________________ Pictures of Mia: http://www.yorkietalk.com/gallery/sh...00&ppuser=3612

08-01-2005, 05:50 PM	#21
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	tails I perfer a docked tail, but that is because you really do not see them in the ring without the tails being according to the standard. Docking is bloodless now with the clamp method and new lasers.

08-01-2005, 06:15 PM	#23
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	originally tail docking was done as a preventive measure as to not damage the tail on hunting dogs, then hygiene, then breed standard. __________________ Kimberly

08-01-2005, 07:05 PM	#27
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	tails I don't even take them out of the bed from mom...they lay there and I dock them while they nurse..they cry a bit, but go right back to the nipple. I perfer, no help.

07-30-2005, 03:11 PM	#16
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	The method I was taught by my mentor is similar to Pat's except we use a small rubber band as a clamp on the tail, and then remove the dew claws with small surgical scissor, daub on some clotisol, and then quick scissor snip for the tail and another daub of clotisol on the end. No stitches, very little bleeding and usually no cries. I heat up a bag of uncooked rice in the microwave and wrap it in towels and put it in a big bowl beforehand, so there is a warm spot for them to be placed after sorry kisses. After a minute or so we remove the rubber band and keep checking for bleeding for about 15 minutes until they go back to mom. Mom's won't lick the clotisol, but we keep a close eye on the tails and claws just in case. Also keep the rubbing alchohol handy to sterilize everything (rubber bands, scissors etc..).

07-30-2005, 07:37 PM	#18
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	it's godawful and I hate doing it, but I don't like to expose them or the momma to a stressful trip to the vet at this time if I don't have to. So it's deep breaths a quick prayer for guidance and off we go. I just wish they would change the guidelines the way they have in Europe and eliminate docking altogether. The pup I gave my mom for mothers day has hers and it's lovely. I didn't dock her 'cause I knew where she was headed.

07-31-2005, 10:28 AM	#19
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	It is scary when you see blood and your puppies in the same picture!! I also use the surgical clamps for tails and dew claws. Don't want to take my babies to the vet where there are so many SICK dogs. I hold my puppies the entire time I am docking and they really do not like being held on their backs..that is when they cry and squirm to get right side up. I do keep a suture handy in case there is bleeding from the tail and in all the years I have used it once..That was in the beginning and I took the clamp off too soon. There is no bare spot on the end of the tail when the clamp is used but the little bit of flesh that is in the clamp will dry up and get knocked off of I can twist it off after a week or two. This procedure is very much like we used to doint the delivery room for humans and later when the umbilical cord dries up and is ready to come off.. I did try using the rubber band ONCE but I could not manage to be quick about it and hold my baby to do the wrapping. The clamp is zip! and you're done and you just wait to finish the job. I do not have help when I do the tails, etc.

08-01-2005, 06:57 PM	#26
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	Hey, credit where credit is due...I realized after reading Rini's post that I did NOT mention the fact that I have HELP. I don't know how she does it by herself...I feel like I need six hands of my own even with help. Tom usually does the scissor work, while I do the prep and the holding and the clotisol and the kisses. He can't stand holding them 'cause he doesn't like the way you can feel the snip through their little bodies. It's really gruesome and I can't stand it either, but somebody's gotta. Geez, I should really move to France.

08-01-2005, 07:24 PM	#28
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	I dont know how you guys can do it...@ 5 days I take mine to the vet and have them lasered along with the declaws and their first vet check...so easy, no muss no fuss! ok I am a whimp on some things, my toes curl, my tummy turns and my eyes cross with the thought of doing it myself...and believe me that is not a pretty picture __________________ Kimberly

08-02-2005, 04:31 AM	#29
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	Pat and Rini, you are my heroes. How do you keep the momma from trying to 'help' you, or is it a magical mystery trick....lol?