Episiotomy?

[YorkieRose]

Did anyone see the Animal Planet show..That's My Baby..a Champion Chow was whelping and she choked on an afterbirth...stopped breathing and fell over...didn't die, but came close...
Anyway...my husband said, I bet you could cut the pups out if a mommy died..I have thought about it and realize the pups would be dead by the time I got to vet..so could I? I know I could on someone else bitch, and think I might be able to on my own..not quite sure. Honestly, the weird stuff that pops into my head.

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Did anyone see the Animal Planet show..That's My Baby..a Champion Chow was whelping and she choked on an afterbirth...stopped breathing and fell over...didn't die, but came close...

OMG! How horrible!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Did anyone see the Animal Planet show..That's My Baby..a Champion Chow was whelping and she choked on an afterbirth...stopped breathing and fell over...didn't die, but came close...
Anyway...my husband said, I bet you could cut the pups out if a mommy died..I have thought about it and realize the pups would be dead by the time I got to vet..so could I? I know I could on someone else bitch, and think I might be able to on my own..not quite sure. Honestly, the weird stuff that pops into my head.

No, that's not wierd to think about. I think at that point you would be running on adrenaline and who knows what you would do?

[yorkiemom1970]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Who's life or death? If I have to pick between a dead pup and cutting my dam..then the pup is going to Yorkie heaven!
I have had pups get majorly stuck and had to rush to the vet..the mothers life as a rule is not in danger because a pup is stuck..there is usually plenty of time to get to the vet. Most often labor stops and the stuck pup may die ...but no way am I cutting into the vulva of my bitch to remove a puppy.

I am having a hard time sitting on this chair thinking about all this...LOL

LOL Pat, this time you saved me from the typing. My thoughts exactly. My bitch is more important than a puppy any day. Yes, if a pup is stuck, there is time to call the vet and have them meet you even if after hours. Uncomfortable for the bitch while getting to vet? yes. Butchering your girl to save one pup? No way. Any vet that would teach someone to do such a thing would have to be a little off their rocker IMO

[yorkiemom1970]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Did anyone see the Animal Planet show..That's My Baby..a Champion Chow was whelping and she choked on an afterbirth...stopped breathing and fell over...didn't die, but came close...
Anyway...my husband said, I bet you could cut the pups out if a mommy died..I have thought about it and realize the pups would be dead by the time I got to vet..so could I? I know I could on someone else bitch, and think I might be able to on my own..not quite sure. Honestly, the weird stuff that pops into my head.

I dont find that weird thinking. I think of some of the strangest things at times to...and ask myself could I?... If my bitch was INDEED beyond saving...yes I think I could because when I am faced with extreme panic, my mind goes into a "zone" and emotions are blacked out and come after the fact. Would I cut on a live girl for any reason? No way. Not even a slim possibilty.

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

Well, I don't think the momma is at risk when she has an episiotomy...I mean they aren't real comfortable (I had one) but it is not going to kill the dam. I think if I were a breeder and could learn this life saving technique to maybe save a puppy, I would. I men what would be the harm?

Don't know that I could do it in a real situation but I would be thankful and more secure with the knowledge of how to do it just in case.

[DazzlinYT]

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Well, I don't think the momma is at risk when she has an episiotomy...I mean they aren't real comfortable (I had one) but it is not going to kill the dam. I think if I were a breeder and could learn this life saving technique to maybe save a puppy, I would. I men what would be the harm?

Don't know that I could do it in a real situation but I would be thankful and more secure with the knowledge of how to do it just in case.

I was in this situation with Molly's puppies, they weren't especially big puppies, but her little tootie was just especially SMALL, it wasn't "blossoming" into the nice big birth tootie it should have been. I remember giving birth to my daughter, now almost 11..and on NO DRUGS, and them cutting my episiotomy, and it actually was a RELIEF to me! Yes it was sore later, but the actual cutting kind of felt good in a strange sort of way (now that's pain.. lol) anyways, I did wonder if it were possible to do one on a dog, it seemed the way she was straining to get her kiddos out it would have made thing so much more simple just to have done a small incision, and given her the extra room she needed.. then when she was done, simply majorly "disinfect" glue it up with surgical glue, and start her on amoxidrops which I had to do anyways, because she had one breech and out of her sack, which didn't make it.. would that baby had made it had it not been such a difficult whelp? Or if there had been more room coming out? maybe.. I'll never know. I obviously didn't do it, but the though did run through my mind. Fortunately she does have 2 happy, fat healthy kiddos, but had they been any bigger, we would have been in real trouble.