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Old 08-09-2012, 01:57 PM   #31
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I contacted the breeder and they want more money for her now.
We'll be seeing the vet in a couple of days.
Does anyone know when a 'false pregnancy' begins? What symptoms are of that?

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Old 08-09-2012, 02:03 PM   #32
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I am sorry...I should have said, in MY mind....I KNOW IN MY HEART AND MIND, that female did not get pregnant by immaculate conception, and I think the ETHICAL thing to do, would be to compensate the person responsible for impregnating the dog. I understand ethical and legal are certainly not synomynous. I have to look in the mirror everyday, so I try to avoid situations where my integrity and ethics are compromised. To NOT acknowledge the stud and compensate THAT breeder for the litter, TO ME, is akin to stealing....."to take and carry away wrongfully with intent to keep" and then profit from, by selling, the "goods". If no one else sees this as wrong, just write me off as a loony old lady!!!
I can understand your compensating the owner of the stud although they would probably want the pick of the litter. BUT, if you only have 1 puppy, and that can happen with a Yorkie, you could have all the expense and nothing to show for it. You could either wait till the dog has it's puppies before you contact the person or let them know what is going on and tell them your concerns.

BUT, the person that sold you your furbaby would not get ONE RED CENT from me. She should NOT make money from BEING STUPID.

BOY, can you tell me this whole thing has me fuming????

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Old 08-09-2012, 02:34 PM   #33
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Where did the OP go? Hope everyone is ok.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:03 AM   #34
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Hi everyone! I'm here!!

My baby had her babies yesterday. I think she was over due as they seem a bit 'older' than they are. If that makes sense? I have scales, but they aren't working right so I'm going to Walmart today to try to find something that will work for weighing them.

She has three puppies. Two females and one male. From the time she started pushing, it took her 2 hours and 10 minutes until she was done. She had a hard time with the first one, last two were easier. I was nervous, but I "think" I did everything right.

I wondered if I could post pictures here so you guys could let me know what you think of them? I think they are precious!

They have much darker markings than the other Biewer I have.

The breeder keeps contacting me to see how she is doing. I think she 'suspects' something. She doesn't know for sure about the puppies.
I have not let the stud owner know yet.
I was going over pedigrees and my girl's lineage are mostly champions. I think there are 2-3 that aren't.

Now, I'm watching them closely to be sure that they are all nursing. I have supplement with wee bottle for them as well.

I appreciate everyone's advice so much! Any advice on things now, would be SUPER!

Thanks!
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:58 AM   #35
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Hi everyone! I'm here!!

My baby had her babies yesterday. I think she was over due as they seem a bit 'older' than they are. If that makes sense? I have scales, but they aren't working right so I'm going to Walmart today to try to find something that will work for weighing them.

She has three puppies. Two females and one male. From the time she started pushing, it took her 2 hours and 10 minutes until she was done. She had a hard time with the first one, last two were easier. I was nervous, but I "think" I did everything right.

I wondered if I could post pictures here so you guys could let me know what you think of them? I think they are precious!

They have much darker markings than the other Biewer I have.

The breeder keeps contacting me to see how she is doing. I think she 'suspects' something. She doesn't know for sure about the puppies.
I have not let the stud owner know yet.
I was going over pedigrees and my girl's lineage are mostly champions. I think there are 2-3 that aren't.

Now, I'm watching them closely to be sure that they are all nursing. I have supplement with wee bottle for them as well.

I appreciate everyone's advice so much! Any advice on things now, would be SUPER!

Thanks!
A kitchen scale that weighs up to five pounds should be good. Tell the breeder NOTHING about the puppies at this point.

If you want to dock tails you need to go to the vet at day 3 and up to day 5. Also did you count the placentas and made sure you had 3 for 3? If unsure go to vet for shot to expel placentas. Going to the VET protect your pups. Bring carrier. Put your blanket on examining table. Having an assistant with you is a great boone. They can park car, help carry, what-ever. Try to get either first appointment of the day or last appointment. Do not let MOM or PUPS touch ground in the vets office.

Watch Mom carefully too. Examine all teats for redness, swelling, odor, discharge, Mom's temperature. Make sure you feed Mom enough calcium. A scrambled egg daily has enough calcium for her. And my dogs love eggs

Of course keep Mom and Pups in quiet secure place that is draft free. Wash Mom's feet when she / if she goes out to potty. Disinfect whelping room daily, and change bedding as needed, which might be 2-3 or more times per day.

First week is critical, Second and third week important. You survive the first three weeks, you can begin to breathe easier, if pups are gaining and thriving, and Mom is doing well.
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Thank you for updating.

Glad the breeder is showing concern for the dog and pups.
I'm still personally disgusted she asked for more money rather than saying hey return her for me to care for her and the pups,then you can have her back. I'm guessing the breeder knows you have no whelmpibg experience, so making financials the concern is very telling about her character.

Thankfully but also unfortunate you have great breedees here to offer advice in care for the best interest of the mom and pups.

Do you hace other pets in your home.
Dont forget about dew claw removal.
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Congrats 'Grandma'!!! Glad all is well so far....thanks for updating.
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I just read this thread and am just in shock. I give you so much credit and kudos on handling this to the best of your ability. Your an amazing dog loving person. I hope your puppies and your yorkie stay well and healthy. What an amazing story and thanks for keeping us updated as it all progressed.
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Thanks for all of the good advice! I don't think Biewer tails are docked??
I do have a question and it may seem silly, but I was reading online all of the techniques that people use to make their dogs' ears stand. Is this something I should be doing now and if so, what is the best way to do it??

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Goldenray Taping Yorkie Ears Taping Yorkshire Terrier Ears to Stand Erect


Remember to use medical self adhesive tape not regular medical tape.

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Thanks for all of the good advice! I don't think Biewer tails are docked??
I do have a question and it may seem silly, but I was reading online all of the techniques that people use to make their dogs' ears stand. Is this something I should be doing now and if so, what is the best way to do it??

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Congrats on your new babies . Would love to see pictures. You can post them here by scrolling down when you click the reply and going to manage attachments to upload them. I don't think they tape the ears this young but I may be wrong and yes biewers have full tails.
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The tails aren't docked.
Dew claws should be removed on day 3.
Don't worry about taping ears at this age. At two weeks I do start shaving them to keep the weight of the hair off. Sometimes this is enough for them to pop up by themselves at 6 or so weeks. If hey don't come up, start taping and sometimes it takes more than a few times.
If the pups are nursing well and gaining, there is no need to supplement and during the first few days you want them to fill up with mom's colostrum. This is how they receiver her immunity against diseases.
Glad everything is going well.
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Thank you all SO much for all of the help, support and good advice! If I do this right, there should be a photo attached to this message.
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At two weeks I do start shaving them to keep the weight of the hair off. Sometimes this is enough for them to pop up by themselves at 6 or so weeks.
Wow! What do you use to shave them? Their ears are so tiny, I'd be afraid of clipping them too short or something. Would you use an eyebrow trimmer or ??

Thanks for the tips. Appreciate it so much!
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Very cute puppies! So glad that your dog has a great home now. I couldn't believe someone bred her so young! I hope that the previous owner stops bothering you.
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