Tiny Yorkie Kisses in CA??

[keana672]

Originally Posted by CRecendiz

Also confused. How should they take payment?

Does anyone know of ANY reputable breeders in CA?? I feel like there is absolutely none!!! I'm so frustrated!!

Tiny yorkie kisses, is owned and operated by Kari. Ive spoken to her a long time ago (few years back) she is not a breeder, but rather a "broker". I saw her site before because at the time, i was interested and searching for an akc yorkie, when confronted her about akc, she claims her yorkies are "akc" but couldnt provide legitimate registration for it. Finally, she told me her yorkies comes from her "Uncle Frank" from Ohio. So i suspect these yorkies come from puppy mills, which i definitely watch out for. Anyways, at the time of my convo with Kari, i added her on facebook, and saw that one of her former customer who had purchased one of her puppies was eating his own poop! Saw this posting on facebook. That was so disgusting to say the least. It means these dogs weren't fed properly with nutrition, anyways, the girl was stuck with the puppy. Not sure what happened after that as i have deleted and blocked her on facebook. I honestly did not want to associate myself wi someone pretending to be a breeder when they are clearly not. Besides, how is it possible to have puppies every other week and can not provide the sire and dam on her site?

I, on the other hand, breed yorkies, and i own both of my yorkies (male and female). I am a small hobby breeder. My line comes from Durrer canadian and Edgewood lines. You can google them and yes both dogs are akc registered but with limited registration. My female weighs 4.5 lbs and my male (durrer) is 3 lbs. she is currently pregnant and i am expecting litters soon. I have loved this breed since i was a small child, so for me to breed the best line is a dream come true.

[Amazing Yorkies]

Originally Posted by keana672

Tiny yorkie kisses, is owned and operated by Kari. Ive spoken to her a long time ago (few years back) she is not a breeder, but rather a "broker". I saw her site before because at the time, i was interested and searching for an akc yorkie, when confronted her about akc, she claims her yorkies are "akc" but couldnt provide legitimate registration for it. Finally, she told me her yorkies comes from her "Uncle Frank" from Ohio. So i suspect these yorkies come from puppy mills, which i definitely watch out for. Anyways, at the time of my convo with Kari, i added her on facebook, and saw that one of her former customer who had purchased one of her puppies was eating his own poop! Saw this posting on facebook. That was so disgusting to say the least. It means these dogs weren't fed properly with nutrition, anyways, the girl was stuck with the puppy. Not sure what happened after that as i have deleted and blocked her on facebook. I honestly did not want to associate myself wi someone pretending to be a breeder when they are clearly not. Besides, how is it possible to have puppies every other week and can not provide the sire and dam on her site?

I, on the other hand, breed yorkies, and i own both of my yorkies (male and female). I am a small hobby breeder. My line comes from Durrer canadian and Edgewood lines. You can google them and yes both dogs are akc registered but with limited registration. My female weighs 4.5 lbs and my male (durrer) is 3 lbs. she is currently pregnant and i am expecting litters soon. I have loved this breed since i was a small child, so for me to breed the best line is a dream come true.

If I understand correctly, your breeder's have limited registration? When a breeder sells with limited registration it is because of one if these reasons:
1. They are not Show and/or Breeder Quality.
2. You purchased at a pet price, and not the price with Breeding rights.
3. You were trusted not to breed, and your puppies are not allowed to be registered with AKC. You own the dogs, but you don't own breeding rights with limited registration.
If this is true, this is very upsetting to me, and I'm sure upsetting to the Breeder you got yours from.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by redwarpony

I was just at Tiny Yorkie Kisses for the 1st time about a week ago. I drove up to a large house on what looked to me like a ranch or large acreage. There were 2 very nice ladies and a very cute little 6 lb yorkie named Butters who came to greet me. The house was very clean and open and much cooler than the squelching heat just outside. They led me to the room the puppies were kept in. It was visible from the entry door. The room looked and smelled clean. There were about 5 or 6 large cages with a 2-3 puppies in each. They were hopelessly adorable and very healthy looking. They were not very active but this didn't seem alarming to me. I was looking for a very small puppy at the time but they didn't have one that quite suited me so they let me know that new litters were coming all the time. I'm not sure from where. I told them to let me know when they got a smaller one and they referred me to the website because they keep it updated frequently. The small ones go fast. =)

Puppies not being active? Isn't that what puppies do? They're little spitfires that are learning and exploring. Now, you say you saw 10-15 puppies, what about their parents? Did the brokers (I say this because it sounds like they don't breed these dogs themselves) discuss pedigree and health testing done on the parents before breeding?

OP these are all questions you need to know answers to before purchasing. I know you love your current dog, but think back to all the things you went through the first few months you had him, do you want to go through all of that again? While health can never fully be guaranteed, your research will help make those odds be in your favor. (hey, we all get sick sometime, right?) the mother club for the Yorkshire terrier breed has a breeder referral page. These people are passionate about yorkies and as members of the YTCA have promised to look out and do what's best for this beloved breed. It doesn't mean you need to sit back and do 0 research. Get you list of questions and research them too. It might take some time before you will actually be bringing a new pup home, but in the end you'll have an easier time about it. You won't worry about fleas, giardia, and kennel cough. Plus, most ethical breeders stand by their dogs and will be more than happy to help if and when a problem should arise. Gemy's post is spot on.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by Amazing Yorkies

If I understand correctly, your breeder's have limited registration? When a breeder sells with limited registration it is because of one if these reasons:
1. They are not Show and/or Breeder Quality.
2. You purchased at a pet price, and not the price with Breeding rights.
3. You were trusted not to breed, and your puppies are not allowed to be registered with AKC. You own the dogs, but you don't own breeding rights with limited registration.
If this is true, this is very upsetting to me, and I'm sure upsetting to the Breeder you got yours from.

Op, this is another thing you must consider. Deb (Amazing Yorkies) has good points here too. Know the difference between limited registration and full registration with breeding rights. Full registration if usually not handed over by a breeder by simply spending more money. This usually happens when the breeder sees what your trying to do (better the breed vs making puppies for "fun") and they will usually take you on and mentor you before full registration is handed over. Or, a breeder knows your mentor and trusts in you AND your mentor before handing over one of their dogs. Pretty much us pet owners will probably never have full registration.

[MrsH]

Originally Posted by jencar98

I knew before ever looking at her website that she's not a breeder I would ever buy from (tiny yorkie kisses, just sounds like an exploiting breeder's name), after looking, my beliefs were confirmed. From reading, I'm guessing she is also a broker, the only thing worse than a greeder. By the time I got to her "payment options" and saw she accepts paypal and all major credit cards, I was sick to my stomach.

IMO, this is not an ethical breeder, merely another trying to capitalize on the yorkie's popularity.

Sorry, this is old but I wanted to confirm - she IS a broker. She told me her parents/uncles have yorkies and that she manages the sales of them. This I knew before I drove down there to go meet her pups (stupid me!)

She sold the pup I drove to see before I even got there. When I went inside to see the other pups I saw horrible living conditions. I do not know if I am being too harsh or expecting too much in a breeder, but what I saw made me uncomfortable. I would not recommend TinyYorkieKisses

[keana672]

@Amazing Yorkies... Actually, you are wrong....
First off, Reputable Breeders will ask you what it is your TRUE Intention of purchasing a dog. If you want to purchase a yorkie to "BREED" or "SHOW" them, then obviously you and the breeder have to come to an agreement where the breeder would allow a "FULL Registration (Breeding Rights), but it will come with a HEFTY price!
This is where it obviously gets very expensive. Most Breeders Don't allow "Breeding Rights" because they don't want you to BREED THEIR LINE (Right, I know how selfish right?), and for these reasons, they are selling their dog as "PET PRICE" and it is much cheaper than paying over $2500....But also, they don't want anyone and everyone just breeding mutts and mixing breeds and what have you. To reduce all backyard breeders out there who are out to make money and to also reduce Euthanasia among our beloved dogs out there, This is where LIMITED Registration comes in. Not because the dog is "NOT" show quality or for the other reasons you have written in response to MY comment.

Plus, with Limited Registration, given that Reputable Breeders are selling their AKC PUREBRED Yorkies much cheaper than they actually paid for. My Yorkshire Terriers came from a Very Reputable Breeder (Cynthia Hill - Edgewood Yorkies) and My Male Yorkie came from Phyllis Bryant who owned Durrer Canadian Yorkshire Terriers. (Yes Betty Ann Durrer's Line - GO google their names.) Yes! I have BOT OF MY dogs AKC pedigree and BOTH OF MY Yorkies came with FULL AKC Registration, and paid a lot for them but I purposely bought them to breed beautiful lines.

[keana672]

@MrsH....Kari (Tiny Yorkie Kisses) is a BROKER and NOT a Reputable Breeder at all...I spoke to her over the phone, she is quite nice, believe it or not, but I don't like how she advertises her dogs as "AKC" when they are NOT. They are registered but with APRI and CKC (Continental Kennel Club). Well, we all know APRI and CKC will register anything and everything including a "ROCK"...lol So the only way to be sure your dog is truly purebred is through AKC as they can trace the dog's dna line...

I've heard that Yorkies Kari sold in the past had Coprophagia (Dogs eating their own poop!). It's so disgusting...and these dogs aren't being fed properly by their owners because they are nothing but puppy mills. So be careful with her site. It's very misleading...

[buffy512]

Originally Posted by Amazing Yorkies

If I understand correctly, your breeder's have limited registration? When a breeder sells with limited registration it is because of one if these reasons:
1. They are not Show and/or Breeder Quality.
2. You purchased at a pet price, and not the price with Breeding rights.
3. You were trusted not to breed, and your puppies are not allowed to be registered with AKC. You own the dogs, but you don't own breeding rights with limited registration.
If this is true, this is very upsetting to me, and I'm sure upsetting to the Breeder you got yours from.

Exactly why I love Deb. Thank God he sent me to her for my babies. He knew I couldnt put my heart into anyone elses arms but this amazing woman. With amazing yorkies. Xoxo

Spay/neuter for the sake of the dogs!

[buffy512]

Originally Posted by keana672

@Amazing Yorkies... Actually, you are wrong....
First off, Reputable Breeders will ask you what it is your TRUE Intention of purchasing a dog. If you want to purchase a yorkie to "BREED" or "SHOW" them, then obviously you and the breeder have to come to an agreement where the breeder would allow a "FULL Registration (Breeding Rights), but it will come with a HEFTY price!
This is where it obviously gets very expensive. Most Breeders Don't allow "Breeding Rights" because they don't want you to BREED THEIR LINE (Right, I know how selfish right?), and for these reasons, they are selling their dog as "PET PRICE" and it is much cheaper than paying over $2500....But also, they don't want anyone and everyone just breeding mutts and mixing breeds and what have you. To reduce all backyard breeders out there who are out to make money and to also reduce Euthanasia among our beloved dogs out there, This is where LIMITED Registration comes in. Not because the dog is "NOT" show quality or for the other reasons you have written in response to MY comment.

Plus, with Limited Registration, given that Reputable Breeders are selling their AKC PUREBRED Yorkies much cheaper than they actually paid for. My Yorkshire Terriers came from a Very Reputable Breeder (Cynthia Hill - Edgewood Yorkies) and My Male Yorkie came from Phyllis Bryant who owned Durrer Canadian Yorkshire Terriers. (Yes Betty Ann Durrer's Line - GO google their names.) Yes! I have BOT OF MY dogs AKC pedigree and BOTH OF MY Yorkies came with FULL AKC Registration, and paid a lot for them but I purposely bought them to breed beautiful lines.

Actually a reputable breeder & person who shows their dogs may take years of working side by side with someone in order to allow them to join their team. What does that sound like for a breeder to say. Hey give me 3k and you can breed them. Id rather spend 3500 from a person who cares 100% about their dogs & wouldnt allow this to happen to their pure hardworking lines for a PET quality. Sounds to me you have filtered out. & as you so called have active great lines. Your not so much of an active yt participant. But hey. Who am I to say is wrong or right. I go with a breeders REPUTATION. Bc thats where we got terms REPUTABLE BREEDER.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by keana672

Tiny yorkie kisses, is owned and operated by Kari. Ive spoken to her a long time ago (few years back) she is not a breeder, but rather a "broker". I saw her site before because at the time, i was interested and searching for an akc yorkie, when confronted her about akc, she claims her yorkies are "akc" but couldnt provide legitimate registration for it. Finally, she told me her yorkies comes from her "Uncle Frank" from Ohio. So i suspect these yorkies come from puppy mills, which i definitely watch out for. Anyways, at the time of my convo with Kari, i added her on facebook, and saw that one of her former customer who had purchased one of her puppies was eating his own poop! Saw this posting on facebook. That was so disgusting to say the least. It means these dogs weren't fed properly with nutrition, anyways, the girl was stuck with the puppy. Not sure what happened after that as i have deleted and blocked her on facebook. I honestly did not want to associate myself wi someone pretending to be a breeder when they are clearly not. Besides, how is it possible to have puppies every other week and can not provide the sire and dam on her site?

I, on the other hand, breed yorkies, and i own both of my yorkies (male and female). I am a small hobby breeder. My line comes from Durrer canadian and Edgewood lines. You can google them and yes both dogs are akc registered but with limited registration. My female weighs 4.5 lbs and my male (durrer) is 3 lbs. she is currently pregnant and i am expecting litters soon. I have loved this breed since i was a small child, so for me to breed the best line is a dream come true.

So, you are breeding dogs when you have no right to register their litters with the AKC. Doesn't sound very ethical to me.

Limited Registration

[keana672]

FYI, I am NOT A FULL TIME DOG BREEDER! I am a "Hobby" breeder. if you have the slightest clue what that means... I own TWO AKC CHAMPION Dogs. I don't give out FULL BREEDING RIGHTS, but they will HAVE AKC Registration Papers - just means the buyer have no right to breed my dogs. Sounds like you have NO idea what you are talking about. I don't breed my dogs for the sake of 'money'.. It's why I breed from time to time, and let years go by before I 'breed' again. I don't breed my dogs every heat. They are my dogs and I paid a lot on both of them. This is just a 'hobby' to me. You probably need to do a bit more research before you open your mouth on this forum. Yea I don't participate here all the time. Why do I have to give you reason? lol if you care so much, I am currently in graduate school at the moment and I am extremely busy writing thesis, research, essay, critical analysis paper, you probably don't even know what those are. Thanks... but it's really none of your business right?

PS. There is NO need to insult people here afterall, you are no better than anyone. Sounds like a little self-esteem issue and insecurities there?

[nanahas3]

Did I understand you to say you breed a 3lb dam????? Sorry just went back and read 4.5lb dam.

[keana672]

where did I say that I have a 3 lb dam?haha
why would you want to breed a small dam such as a 3 lb? that is risky!
you mean my male yorkie is 3 lbs right? You might want to re-read the post again. If you are curious... My male is from the AKC Durrer Canadian Lines and he is the one pictured as my "avatar".

[nanahas3]

I think what is confusing us you said your dogs were sold to you on a limitied registration. That means you did not pay for the right to breed them. Are we reading this wrong? Also I did edit my post above to say I had read it wrong.

[keana672]

No. I purchased BOTH OF MY YORKIES from a REPUTABLE BREEDER. Go look up Edgewood Yorkies. My female came from there and My male came from Kansas - male is from AKC DURRER CANADIAN LINES! FEMALE is EDGEWOOD LINES! BOTH ARE AKC and with FULL AKC REGISTRATION. Me on the other hand, because I am selling my yorkies MUCH MUCH LESS, I decided to give "LIMITED" registration. meaning they are NOT Paying over $2500 like I did because I purchased mine with FULL Breeding Rights. I sold my litters way less than that but the catch is they WILL GET AKC PAPERS Just NOT FULL BREEDING Rights! Why? because I sold them much cheaper as "PETS" Only. Now if they want to breed my dogs, because I have spent so much on them, I would allow FULL RIGHTS but they have to pay same amount I paid. It's only fair! and that's what usually Reputable Breeders do! and of course you have to ask buyers FULL intention on the dogs.