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TexasKat08 03-02-2011 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KAS (Post 3448404)
Thank you all for your concern, but we talked to the vet and they said to take her in tomorrow. I know, you're probably thinking, "Tomorrow? She needs to go now!" thats what i thought! We gave her a calcium tablet- (we couldnt get the paste)and its funny how she got it! We tried to force it down her throat, and she spit it out eventually. Then she was looking at us with a look that said "I'm watching you!". Then we were going to have her sniff it, and she snatched it right out of our hands and ate it! It would've been funnier if you were there. Im scared for her, and I dont think Bailey knows whats going on. She cant stand, and she wont eat (but i know thats normal) Thanks for all your help and prayers!
My BS radar is pinging. Anybody else? The OP has been necro-bumping (posting in threads from 5 years ago), regarding labor and whelping, but the posts just seem a bit flippant to me to take seriously at this point. I hope I'm wrong and that she is with a vet right now.

cally930 03-02-2011 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasKat08 (Post 3448511)
My BS radar is pinging. Anybody else? The OP has been necro-bumping (posting in threads from 5 years ago), regarding labor and whelping, but the posts just seem a bit flippant to me to take seriously at this point. I hope I'm wrong and that she is with a vet right now.
I agree!!!! This is BS.

Mardelin 03-02-2011 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cally930 (Post 3448512)
I agree!!!! This is BS.
Could be, but if that's the case it would take a very sick person to do that.

The OP profile page says she volunteers at the Human Society.

TexasKat08 03-02-2011 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3448518)
Could be, but if that's the case it would take a very sick person to do that.

The OP profile page says she volunteers at the Human Society.
It would be sick, but it seems that a loud outcry against YT has recently been waged by some outraged "greeders" that have been outed here and I just wonder if it is connected.

cally930 03-02-2011 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3448518)
Could be, but if that's the case it would take a very sick person to do that.

The OP profile page says she volunteers at the Human Society.
Once you said that you didn't think that this yorkie could be in labor for this long then immediately I thought that it was BS. The OP sounded way too casual in her posts. She was online quite a few times afterwards but didn't post anything.

Sure hope I am wrong and that she took her yorkie to the vet and she is now home head over heels in love with her momma and puppies.

gemy 03-02-2011 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3448518)
Could be, but if that's the case it would take a very sick person to do that.

The OP profile page says she volunteers at the Human Society.
Yes it would. Sick and cruel

Perrella 03-02-2011 02:05 PM
The OP has puppies born 02/15/11 in her album....what's up with that? So, if that's the case, she's has done this before....hmmm :confused:

maggiesmom_2007 03-02-2011 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Perrella (Post 3448539)
The OP has puppies born 02/15/11 in her album....what's up with that? So, if that's the case, she's has done this before....hmmm :confused:
The OP was posting for someone named Kas.

Perrella 03-02-2011 02:07 PM
So sorry, that was Sara1130 posting for help for KAS, my mistake. I'm just so sadden and upset over this.

Micah my love 03-02-2011 02:08 PM
I didn't see this until a little while ago and nothing adds up here...if her girl was in labor yesterday last night and today having hard contractions to the point of pushing..i think she would be near death by now..I do not believe any of this

Perrella 03-02-2011 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by maggiesmom_2007 (Post 3448543)
The OP was posting for someone named Kas.
Thank you Maggiesmom. I will keep following and praying here.

Buster Brown 03-02-2011 02:09 PM
For the poor momma dog and the babies I hope this post is a fabrication. If the OP was in labor and had been having contractions for over 24 hours, shivering, and could not stand you bet they would consult a Doctor. It is not right to learn at the expense of another living being. The OP asks for help and then ignores it when given. If it is someone who is just trying to get a reaction their life must be pretty miserable if this is how they have fun. If you were a reputable breeder you would not have to stoop to this kind of baiting you would be to busy with important things like taking care of your own dogs. OP if you are real don't be irresponsible TAKE THE DOG TO THE VET FOR HEAVEN"S SAKE!!!!!!!! PLEASE
I hope things turn out ok for the momma dog and babies.

Rhetts_mama 03-02-2011 02:09 PM
Once again, my hat is off to the great breeders on here. Despite all the red flags, you are still willing to offer advice even when it's unlikely to be heeded. The health of the dogs are always first and foremost in your mind.

If by some chance that this is real, then I hope to heck the OP gets off her backside and takes the dog in to the vet rather than playing telephone tag. If a vet is truly so blase about whelping, then they need to have their license yanked. Every barrel has it's bottom... I would also hope that someone who says they volunteer at the Humane Society would have the sense to know when a dog is in distress and needs to be seen.

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If you were a reputable breeder you would not have to stoop to this kind of baiting you would be to busy with important things like taking care of your own dogs.
If someone were a reputable breeder, they would have a real life mentor and not be depending on the internet for information.

Mardelin 03-02-2011 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3448550)
Once again, my hat is off to the great breeders on here. Despite all the red flags, you are still willing to offer advice even when it's unlikely to be heeded. The health of the dogs are always first and foremost in your mind.

If by some chance that this is real, then I hope to heck the OP gets off her backside and takes the dog in to the vet rather than playing telephone tag. If a vet is truly so blase about whelping, then they need to have their license yanked. Every barrel has it's bottom...



If someone were a reputable breeder, they would have a real life mentor and not be depending on the internet for information.
I reluctantly came on this thread at the request of Nancy. It's been damned if you do and damned if you don't lately, so I've been very aprehensiveon offerring advice as of late.

Threads such as this one always leave me sick to my stomach.

BonBon 03-02-2011 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3448558)
I reluctantly came on this thread at the request of Nancy. It's been damned if you do and damned if you don't lately, so I've been very aprehensiveon offerring advice as of late.

Threads such as this one always leave me sick to my stomach.
Personally, I'm damned glad you do! :thumbup:

I've seen those who have come here and have been willing to listen. Thanks to you and other experienced YT breeders they got the help their little ones needed and they got it in time. I hope none of you ever stop trying. Thank you!

(This one makes me sick to my stomach too.)

Mardelin 03-02-2011 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cally930 (Post 3448529)
Once you said that you didn't think that this yorkie could be in labor for this long then immediately I thought that it was BS. The OP sounded way too casual in her posts. She was online quite a few times afterwards but didn't post anything.

Sure hope I am wrong and that she took her yorkie to the vet and she is now home head over heels in love with her momma and puppies.
The info she was offerring was so incomplete, I'm not sure that this dog was in labor since yesterday. She was shivering, which I told her then to take the girl to the vet to get at the bottom of it. First stages of labor does not include shivering....Usually a blank stare, indicating they don't understand what is going with their bodies. First stages can last several hours....they are dilating.

Nancy1999 03-02-2011 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3448558)
I reluctantly came on this thread at the request of Nancy. It's been damned if you do and damned if you don't lately, so I've been very aprehensiveon offerring advice as of late.

Threads such as this one always leave me sick to my stomach.
Thanks for your help, I know it's hard for some people to understand, but we do read these things and get emotionally involved.

Woogie Man 03-02-2011 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3448558)
I reluctantly came on this thread at the request of Nancy. It's been damned if you do and damned if you don't lately, so I've been very aprehensiveon offerring advice as of late.

Threads such as this one always leave me sick to my stomach.
I feel the same as you but, you do it for the dogs...not the owner. On the off chance that there is a good outcome (and I hope there is), I know you will be ready to offer any help in making sure Mom and pups do well and thrive. It's part of who you are and we all love you for it.

This one is especially heartbreaking, though.

Mardelin 03-02-2011 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BonBon (Post 3448567)
Personally, I'm damned glad you do! :thumbup:

I've seen those who have come here and have been willing to listen. Thanks to you and other experienced YT breeders they got the help their little ones needed and they got it in time. I hope none of you ever stop trying. Thank you!

(This one makes me sick to my stomach too.)
Yes there are those that will listen. But, I have a distaste for those that use YT as a way attempting to not shell out the money their dog needs. Those that feel that YT will fix everything for them. While there are some good people on here, YT is not the end all that meets all.

Most of us know that breeding is serious business. These are breathing, helpless little creatures.

blancla 03-02-2011 02:28 PM
I just read through this post, and it made me sick.

I can only say from experience, I am so thankful that the breeders on here give great advice. I know it's hard when someone doesn't take it, but let me say, it saved my girl's life when I listened to you guys. As you all know she is spayed now, so I will never have to go through this again.

What I can't understand is why she is asking about Secret Buddies when she should have been to the vet today. Just look at her post from around 10am today.

Mardelin 03-02-2011 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3448571)
I feel the same as you but, you do it for the dogs...not the owner. On the off chance that there is a good outcome (and I hope there is), I know you will be ready to offer any help in making sure Mom and pups do well and thrive. It's part of who you are and we all love you for it.

This one is especially heartbreaking, though.
Thanks Jim,

But, you've been right there with me, in the middle of the night. It's always nice to have someone knowledgable to bounce things off of. We never stop learning and of course there is always the chance I'm missing something and you're there.

By the way where are the updated pictures of that little guy.

Rhetts_mama 03-02-2011 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blancla (Post 3448577)

What I can't understand is why she is asking about Secret Buddies when she should have been to the vet today. Just look at her post from around 10am today.
Priorities :cool:

miabellaamoure 03-02-2011 03:58 PM
Ah-hum....YT should BAN this member forever for the reason of animal cruelty at best! :thumbdown:mad::thumbdown

KAS 03-02-2011 04:20 PM
K, i know u guys hate me, but i have good news! Baileys ok! I thought u all would want to b the first to know. We gave her some calcium tablets and shes doing great! This morning i was looking at the SB thing cause i didnt know what was really wrong with her. I know you all think i dont care about animals, but i love them, i just have problems with getting really nervous. And trust me, she wouldve been at the vet a long time ago if i could drive her there myself. Thanks for caring so much about Bailey. I hope you can all forgive me and think of me a little better than you do now. If you cant, i understand. I would feel the same way. I'll let you know about how shes doing and when the pups come!

Mardelin 03-02-2011 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KAS (Post 3448702)
K, i know u guys hate me, but i have good news! Baileys ok! I thought u all would want to b the first to know. We gave her some calcium tablets and shes doing great! This morning i was looking at the SB thing cause i didnt know what was really wrong with her. I know you all think i dont care about animals, but i love them, i just have problems with getting really nervous. And trust me, she wouldve been at the vet a long time ago if i could drive her there myself. Thanks for caring so much about Bailey. I hope you can all forgive me and think of me a little better than you do now. If you cant, i understand. I would feel the same way. I'll let you know about how shes doing and when the pups come!
If the calcium tablets helped her, she is pre-eclamptic and she isn't out of the woods as this will continue throughout her gestation/labor/nursing. She will not be able to nurse and you will be bottle feeding and taking care of her.....However, you said she was having contractions....still not a good sign with no pups......

She should be at the vets and having a c-section now

cally930 03-02-2011 04:35 PM
Throughout the entire thread you said that she was having contractions. Your first post you said she was pushing??????

Why should we think anything different of you now? Because you came back and said that you gave her a calcium pill where the most experienced breeder on this site said that you shouldn't give it to her before whelping.

If you care in the least about your Bailey get someone to drive her - if you can't. This is just ridiculous to me that you are sounding so calm about all of this.

Sara1130 03-02-2011 04:38 PM
If she was doing what she was doing then she still needs to be seen by a vet just to make sure she is alright. Is there any way of still getting her in??? Did you vet not tell you how important it was for her to be seen?? Just please don't play rushian roulette with that dog's life.

miabellaamoure 03-02-2011 04:48 PM
I speak only for myself...NOT forgiven! :thumbdown:mad::thumbdown

KAS 03-02-2011 04:48 PM
No the vet said we should wait till tomorrow. and trust me, im not calm about this, not at all...you cant read emotions on a screen...and i cant find anyone to take her!

miabellaamoure 03-02-2011 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KAS (Post 3448755)
No the vet said we should wait till tomorrow. and trust me, im not calm about this, not at all...you cant read emotions on a screen...and i cant find anyone to take her!
You are obviously calm enough to be tapping on the keys so, get off the computer and call a cab and get your female to the VET!:mad:


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