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Mardelin 03-02-2011 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by KAS (Post 3448275)
thx...i dont think shes in labor yet but shes having contractions again...
Contractions are labor......don't you understand that.

TexasKat08 03-02-2011 11:40 AM
Looks like the OP is offline so hopefully she is at the vet!

Mardelin 03-02-2011 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasKat08 (Post 3448319)
Looks like the OP is offline so hopefully she is at the vet!
All we can do is pray......but, this little girl has been having shivers since yesterday. I tried to get her to take her into the vet yesterday. I'm trying to get the gravity of this situation into her head. She's new, all that she's learned about breeding is what she's read on here or on other sites.

lillymae 03-02-2011 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by KAS (Post 3448266)
The vet said we need the calsorb paste, and Bailey might need a c section tommorrow! Pray that she'll b ok!!!
If she's been in labor since before 7:00 A.M. and no pups yet I would not wait till tomorrow to see the vet. Tomorrow is way too long to wait for a C-section, if she doesn't get a pup out very soon and you wait till tomorrow you could loose Mom & pups.

Nancy1999 03-02-2011 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasKat08 (Post 3448319)
Looks like the OP is offline so hopefully she is at the vet!
I hope so too, I've seen this happen so many times before, but the OP chooses to ignore the replies. Then we get a post that the puppies have died, and it's as if no one ever learns from the situation. :(

bellababy08 03-02-2011 11:49 AM
Anymore updates?...I hope and pray she took her to the vet.

Sara1130 03-02-2011 12:01 PM
Hope she has been taken to the vet by now. Would hate to see this dog die or the pups when it could have been avoided. I would rather waste the money on a vet visit just to ease my mind then to risk losing mom or the puppies. Still praying that all is well.

chachi 03-02-2011 12:10 PM
Please dont wait untill tomorrow to see a vet

Woogie Man 03-02-2011 12:17 PM
I'm just catching up on this. I see the OP's light is on.

OP, if you are online, get off now and get that girl to the vet so she can be assessed. Going by your posts, something isn't right and no one here can help you. You're having trouble just knowing what labor is and you should not trust yourself to see your girl through this. You need a qualified person that is actually there with your girl...not internet advice.

For your girl's sake, and the pups, GET TO THE VET NOW!!

KAS 03-02-2011 12:26 PM
Thank you all for your concern, but we talked to the vet and they said to take her in tomorrow. I know, you're probably thinking, "Tomorrow? She needs to go now!" thats what i thought! We gave her a calcium tablet- (we couldnt get the paste)and its funny how she got it! We tried to force it down her throat, and she spit it out eventually. Then she was looking at us with a look that said "I'm watching you!". Then we were going to have her sniff it, and she snatched it right out of our hands and ate it! It would've been funnier if you were there. Im scared for her, and I dont think Bailey knows whats going on. She cant stand, and she wont eat (but i know thats normal) Thanks for all your help and prayers!

KAS 03-02-2011 12:27 PM
I mean the not eating food thing is normal.

Woogie Man 03-02-2011 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KAS (Post 3448404)
Thank you all for your concern, but we talked to the vet and they said to take her in tomorrow. I know, you're probably thinking, "Tomorrow? She needs to go now!" thats what i thought! We gave her a calcium tablet- (we couldnt get the paste)and its funny how she got it! We tried to force it down her throat, and she spit it out eventually. Then she was looking at us with a look that said "I'm watching you!". Then we were going to have her sniff it, and she snatched it right out of our hands and ate it! It would've been funnier if you were there. Im scared for her, and I dont think Bailey knows whats going on. She cant stand, and she wont eat (but i know thats normal) Thanks for all your help and prayers!
Her not being able to stand is NOT normal. If all you did was talk to the vet and your conversation is like your posts, I doubt the vet got a real sense of what's going on.

Understand that you are putting your girl and her pups in real jeopardy by not taking her in NOW! Don't you get that?

Nancy1999 03-02-2011 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3448412)
Her not being able to stand is NOT normal. If all you did was talk to the vet and your conversation is like your posts, I doubt the vet got a real sense of what's going on.

Understand that you are putting your girl and her pups in real jeopardy by not taking her in NOW! Don't you get that?
Thank you Woogie Man and Mardelin for trying to help this woman understand the importance of this.

Mardelin 03-02-2011 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KAS (Post 3448404)
Thank you all for your concern, but we talked to the vet and they said to take her in tomorrow. I know, you're probably thinking, "Tomorrow? She needs to go now!" thats what i thought! We gave her a calcium tablet- (we couldnt get the paste)and its funny how she got it! We tried to force it down her throat, and she spit it out eventually. Then she was looking at us with a look that said "I'm watching you!". Then we were going to have her sniff it, and she snatched it right out of our hands and ate it! It would've been funnier if you were there. Im scared for her, and I dont think Bailey knows whats going on. She cant stand, and she wont eat (but i know thats normal) Thanks for all your help and prayers!
Talking to the vet is not cutting it.

Your dog is in trouble.

Do you know that giving your girl calcium tablets prior to her whelping will shut down her natural abilities to produce calcium and will lead to a eclampsia. Have fun, because you will be bottle feeding, your girl will not be able to nurse because of this condition.

What don't you get about you hold your girl's life and these pups lifes in your hand. Get her to the vet.....So, sad when someone is thinking about how not to spend money instead of saving a dog's life. This is animal cruelty.

Nothing funny about your discription of your girl taking the tab......She is depending on you to make the right decision.

Her not being able to stand is a sign of eclampsia, she has no calcium in her body, you are "KILLING" her.

Why did you come on here asking for advice if you aren't willing to take it. The responsibility layes on your head now.....

chachi 03-02-2011 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3448412)
Her not being able to stand is NOT normal. If all you did was talk to the vet and your conversation is like your posts, I doubt the vet got a real sense of what's going on.

Understand that you are putting your girl and her pups in real jeopardy by not taking her in NOW! Don't you get that?
Please listen to Jim and Mardelin they are experienced breeders.

maggiesmom_2007 03-02-2011 12:51 PM
Kas,
I read through this post and I have to say I have tears running down my face. Not for you (sorry) but for your little girl and those poor unborn pups. It is very sad to see from your post that you must not really care about her at all. Everyone that has posted on here has stressed the extreme importance of getting her to your vet. But you just aren't listening. Calling your vet on the phone really does no good, that would be like calling your own Doctor and getting a diagnosis over the phone. Doctors and Vets have to physically see you or the dog in order to give a more accurate Diagnosis. Like you have already been advised She is in Labor if she is having contractions. Waiting to take her in tomorrow could possibly lead to her death from infection because if she is in Labor then Like you were told the pups will die from lack of Oxygen.

Micah my love 03-02-2011 12:52 PM
I think she is laughing at at the excitement of everyone...no one could be that clueless if so she would be running scared to the vet..i pray this is a sick joke

Sara1130 03-02-2011 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KAS (Post 3448404)
Thank you all for your concern, but we talked to the vet and they said to take her in tomorrow. I know, you're probably thinking, "Tomorrow? She needs to go now!" thats what i thought! We gave her a calcium tablet- (we couldnt get the paste)and its funny how she got it! We tried to force it down her throat, and she spit it out eventually. Then she was looking at us with a look that said "I'm watching you!". Then we were going to have her sniff it, and she snatched it right out of our hands and ate it! It would've been funnier if you were there. Im scared for her, and I dont think Bailey knows whats going on. She cant stand, and she wont eat (but i know thats normal) Thanks for all your help and prayers!
Please listen to your heart and gut. This little girl needs to be seen by a vet. If your vet will not see her, take her to a different one that will. It is so much cheaper to take her in now and make sure all is well then to have to rush her to the ER tonight with problems.

cally930 03-02-2011 12:55 PM
OMG!!! I have read hundreds and hundreds of threads and not when had me wanting to cry as much as this one!

Please, please listen to the experienced breeders on here!

chachi 03-02-2011 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Micah my love (Post 3448443)
I think she is laughing at at the excitement of everyone...no one could be that clueless if so she would be running scared to the vet..i pray this is a sick joke
I think this is for real and yes Ive seen people be pretty naive when it comes to breeding on here. Im hoping she listens to the experienced breeders on here and gets her girl to a vet before ikts too late. I have been anxious about this thread all day

Sammy Mommy 03-02-2011 12:59 PM
I hope this Mamma dog is at the vets being checked out. Praying for this dog and her puppies. Hope all goes well.

cally930 03-02-2011 01:00 PM
The OP is back on. I hope she posts that everything is ok.

BonBon 03-02-2011 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KAS (Post 3448404)
Thank you all for your concern, but we talked to the vet and they said to take her in tomorrow. I know, you're probably thinking, "Tomorrow? She needs to go now!" thats what i thought! We gave her a calcium tablet- (we couldnt get the paste)and its funny how she got it! We tried to force it down her throat, and she spit it out eventually. Then she was looking at us with a look that said "I'm watching you!". Then we were going to have her sniff it, and she snatched it right out of our hands and ate it! It would've been funnier if you were there. Im scared for her, and I dont think Bailey knows whats going on. She cant stand, and she wont eat (but i know thats normal) Thanks for all your help and prayers!
WHY won't you take her in now? If it's money or some other reason - is it worth losing this girl and her puppies? Is it worth making her suffer helplessly? :(

Nancy1999 03-02-2011 01:07 PM
I think because animals produce young in the wild all time, people think there's nothing to get excited about. People don't realize that when man domesticates an animal, man does have to stay involved in the breeding and whelping process. A large percentage of the time, there is no problem, and many inexperienced breeders tell newbie breeders, "Don't worry, it's a breeze". You have to know the warning signs, and act quickly. I'm not sure what type of advice the OP is getting through PM's or other forums.

chachi 03-02-2011 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3448462)
I think because animals produce young in the wild all time, people think there's nothing to get excited about. People don't realize that when man domesticates an animal, man does have to stay involved in the breeding and whelping process. A large percentage of the time, there is no problem, and many inexperienced breeders tell newbie breeders, "Don't worry, it's a breeze". You have to know the warning signs, and act quickly. I'm not sure what type of advice the OP is getting through PM's or other forums.
True, and I dont know what vet would tell someone they have to wait untill the next day when the dog has been in labor since the previous day. I think its time for a different vet. But I think we are all just beating our head against the wall and the Op isnt hearing us so most likely whats gonna happen is gonna happen. I knew we were in trouble this morning when she said she gave the momma cows milk

cally930 03-02-2011 01:36 PM
Is it possible though for the momma to be in labor for over 24 hrs and no pup?

EarthAngel 03-02-2011 01:42 PM
I cannot for the life of me understand why a vet would want to wait any length of time knowing there is a dog in whelp and may be having problems. I sure hope she brought her girl to another vet.

Mardelin 03-02-2011 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cally930 (Post 3448493)
Is it possible though for the momma to be in labor for over 24 hrs and no pup?
Nope....I'd be very surprised if these pups are alive now.

Mardelin 03-02-2011 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EarthAngel (Post 3448501)
I cannot for the life of me understand why a vet would want to wait any length of time knowing there is a dog in whelp and may be having problems. I sure hope she brought her girl to another vet.
This is what happens when someone is inexperienced, learns everything off the internet.

Experienced breeders know when they're in trouble...immediately grab their girl and run to the vet. If the vet doesn't attend to them immediately....they go on a screaming rampage until they do......But, then most experienced breeders pick their vets by their knowledge and know the dangers of waiting and it'll never get to the screaming point.

cally930 03-02-2011 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3448504)
Nope....I'd be very surprised if these pups are alive now.
Then I don't think this thread is for real.


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