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11-21-2010, 03:11 PM
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Do you have a television? You know that a television costs the manufacturer less than $100 to produce. Why should you pay over $700 for it?? Why should you pay the expenses of the labour etc that goes into that TV?? Why should those expenses be passed on to the purchaser? I don't expect you to understand this analogy.
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11-21-2010, 03:11 PM
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| Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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If you can't breed quality pups, healthy, well structured, dogs why even attempt to place them or sell them. Most of us are pretty knowledgable about the breed and know how long they've been in existence. No it's not about only certain people being able to produce a quality yorkie pup. But, I'll put my money on those that have immersed themselves in the breed over something bought out of the Classifieds. People that do that have no love for their dogs and are only about selling dogs. I don't care how little they've charged for one, they don't care where their pups go. They don't develop a relationship with their families. The deal is over when one walks out the door with their pup.
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11-21-2010, 03:12 PM
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Actually the Yorkshire Terrier History written on YTCA's pages says facts concerning the breed are well recorded starting in 1846. They were not given their current name until 1874. Not sure what that has to do with anything though. So, you have read a little history. Read more of it on the YTCA.org pages. I don't know who you think have been led to believe what -- but I do believe there are GOOOD breeders and POOR breeders. There are also up and coming breeders who are doing things right to the best ability but are also learning on the job -- the last and most important teacher -- experience. The Yorkshire Terrier's gene pool is being seriously diluted by puppymills and BYB who will breed any two breathing animals. Just because they are able to does not mean they should. Too many are not taking the Breed Standard into account at all! You yourself said you looked at LOTS of litters of puppies before you found one to buy? Why do you think that is? It is because all breeders are not doing it right. Of course we feel only certain breeders can breed quality pups!!! Only the ones who care enough to do it right!
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11-21-2010, 03:12 PM
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| Currently Suspended! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Castle, DE. USA
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| WHOW!!! you people are out of hand...read his post...he disrespected me by saying ILL TYPE SLOWLY...all these costs...you knew this when you got into breeding...WHY do the purchasing public have to pay for this...no one pays my vet, food, health bills...why should the purchasing public????no one has yet to give me and answer to my question...the original post...did I give this women wrong advice... I am just trying to give advise to someone who doesn't have a lot of money...you can get into the breeder/owner/handler if you study the breed and do what I suggested...I am living proof that it can be done that's all...not all of us are wealthy...or willing to replace feeding our family so we can fulfill our need to purchase a Champion pup... |
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11-21-2010, 03:23 PM
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Exactly! Beamer really had a great start in life (and an unexpected bonus was that he was used to being groomed!). My first Yorkie wasn't as expensive but we bought her in England back in 1984, also from a reputable breeder and we had 15.1/2 wonderful years with her, with very minimum vet bills - just the annual check ups and shots. As someone has said on the forum - you buy your breeder first!
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11-21-2010, 03:26 PM
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| Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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The hard part is educating on how to buy from a reputable breeder. People are amazed that the price of a yorkie from a reputable breeder/exhibitor is actually less that from a BYBer, pet store or puppy mill. But, even at the cost of a quality yorkie being as it is, which most of the time we're in the red, we couldn't afford the next litter. The money is put back into the dogs.
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11-21-2010, 03:27 PM
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| Currently Suspended! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Castle, DE. USA
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| I have incurred and will incur exspenses with my pup...should I ask the breeder to pay for her vet bills, food bills,...etc...I have by no means advised any one on how to breed ...READ MY FIRST RESPONSE...you all should be politicians...I gave an alternate means that you all don't agree with...hey...that women will come to you and pay...$2000 for a pup you win!!!!... |
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11-21-2010, 03:31 PM
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If you had gone to a decent breeder for your pup, you would have a health guarantee that covers congenital problems. But that's the problem when you get a dog from the newspaper. You are out of luck. I just have to reinterate that THIS type of breeder is the reason I chose to go the rescue route. Unfortunately there are more of the "short cut, cut-rate" breeders around here than the good ones. And I refuse to support bad breeding programs.
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11-21-2010, 03:33 PM
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| Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Your alternative means is not the best, you are leading her up the garden path. If money is so tight, how can you breed responsibly? You can't, you'll take short cuts. As in everything, you at least have to break even in order to put the money back into the dogs for that next breeding. By the way, just so you'll know, basically my clients are getting their dogs for free....they get free grooming and boarding for the rest of that pup's life. How's that for having faith in my breeding program. My families know where they can reach me and I'll always be here for them.
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11-21-2010, 03:34 PM
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| Currently Suspended! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Castle, DE. USA
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| Many people purchase a rescue dog whom lives a long and healthy life...I am not criticizing...just giving sound advice...and have yet to have anyone give me or the people of this forum of one breakdown of cost!!!!!! |
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11-21-2010, 03:35 PM
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Buying a pup for a breeding program out of the newspaper is not sound advice.
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11-21-2010, 03:37 PM
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11-21-2010, 03:40 PM
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| Crete -- Here is another breeder's perspective. This person breeds boxers in New Castle, DE! Imagine that! "There are so many ads in the newspaper - which of those are good breeders? Very few good breeders advertise in the newspaper because they get more than enough referrals from other good breeders and Boxer Clubs. They produce good health, good temperament, and good conformation, and there is often a waiting list for their pups. Look at ten ads in the newspaper and at least 5 to 7 of them will be careless breeders who know little or nothing about Boxers. They simply bred together their cute male and their cute female and produced cute puppies. They did no research, so they don't know the incidence of hip dysplasia, spine deformities, low to normal thyroid, poor temperament, heart problems, or epilepsy in their lines. They pronounced the parents perfect" without knowing anything about structure or soundness. When you buy from these people, you are essentially buying generic little dogs with unknown genes. Their AKC registration papers say Boxer only because the AKC churns registration papers out of a computer that couldn't care less about structure, health, or temperament." The page goes on to say this about price: "Cost? "$1500.00." Reasonable price range for pet quality is $800.00 to $1100.00 - however prices do vary by region. However, it should be noted that the American Boxer Club Code of Ethics prohibits breeders from charging full price for a white puppy. Instead, they may collect a refundable spay/neuter deposit, and charge for veterinary expenses directly related to the puppy (as of 9/29/04). Veterinary expenses directly related to a puppy may vary widely, however, and in some cases may be higher than the average price of a pet colored puppy." Just thought I would throw those excerpts out for your perusal. 
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11-21-2010, 03:42 PM
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11-21-2010, 03:43 PM
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