YTCA breeders---

[Raymond's Mom]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

You must take my word for it Bamafan that I pay top money for top quality dogs that belong wholly and exclusively to me. My investment over the past then years would pay for a long, luxurious retirement. I do this purely for love of these little dogs. I will appreciatively consider all advice offerred, but ultimately make my own decisions and expect others to respect my right to do so. I have and will continue to offer help wherever I can, be it another breeder needing assistance or an animal needing rescue.
I have a big problem with tails, dewclaws, funky colors, sewer rats, and now dental work finding their way into discussions of pedigree and genetics.
With that, I'll ask admin to close this thread as another exercise in futility.

I believe your original post was to question the credibility of YTCA breeders vs. non YTCA breeders and it seems that you're looking for a fight. Nothing good will come of that. The YTCA members will continue to try to not only improve the breed but maintain the integrity of the blue and gold terrier. Those who want to breed parti color, (parti color is not a naturally occurring phenomena in this breed), breed the born blue or born brown genetically flawed dogs will find other clubs to belong to. The Biewer breeders are working hard to establish their dogs as a breed apart from yorkies. As for tails, maybe the day will come when they will be left long. Until then I expect you'll be making points for other exhibitors at shows when you exhibit your import with a full tail in this country. As for dewclaws, I would hope that everyone would continue to remove them.

It's also sad that a few only belong to the YTCA so they can be listed in the breeder referral. Is that the case of the friend you mentioned?

[107barney]

Actually, I think this topic is really about this

"Quite often I see someone making reference to so and so as being a "YTCA breeder." I'm curious as to what that means to various people. "

Seemingly in response to recommendations for area breeders made by YT members on the New England regional forum.

But my point, and VERY RELEVANT to genetics and breeding is that breeders who depart from the standard may do so with good intentions, but it's the slippery slope - what else besides tails and nails and color will breeders alter? I wish they would think about the end result more, hence my references to high costs of veterinary care for poorly bred dogs. And I can assure you, I've spent tens of thousands.

[ladyjane]

hmmm.... all I can say is that my investment in the past five years in saving yorkies that were poorly bred and/or poorly placed in homes that had no knowledge of the breed and/or the funds to care properly for the genetic and/or other expensive medical problems that cropped up would have paid for some mighty fine vacations!

[107barney]

Originally Posted by peachbongi

You were so fortunate to have such a good mentor! Even though you are not a current member we all know your reputation as a breeder and I believe it was you who once told me that your reputation will prove you are a good breeder. I hope to one day be YTCA, even if it is for a short time. In the mean time I will work towards a good reputation.

I'd buy a dog from you any day. Heard you got one for sale....hmmmm.... how much is that Obi in the window??
(I wish I could!)

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

You must take my word for it Bamafan that I pay top money for top quality dogs that belong wholly and exclusively to me. My investment over the past then years would pay for a long, luxurious retirement.

I don't understand. How does that have any relevance to anything that I said? (Just asking since you were addressing me specifically.) My point was that the purpose for breeding should not, IMO, be to recoup the money that you have invested in a dog. I can't imagine someone breeding a dog that shouldn't be bred just because they don't want to out of pocket their monetary interest in it.

[Brooklynn]

In the itinal post it was asked about the "betterment of the breed" and lots of other things asked regarding YTCA members and I believe that tails, off colors ect...is answering questions about the "BETTERMENT" of the breed and what steps we take as a member to "BETTER" the breed
I guess some of us didn't answer what you might have wanted to hear and I do believe we've stayed on topic and the purpose of this thread with no one getting into a "snit" LOL...
If one doesn't want to purchase from a YTCA member that is their choice, it really doesn't matter to me if and where you purchase your dog. It's when one comes back and starts asking why the health issues are coming up and why my dog is sick after we have tried to direct you in the "right" direction because you didn't want to hear it, it gets alittle frustrating but "alas" we are here to help and try and fix or stir you in the direction you need to go and cry with one that has that sick pup, or stay up anxiously waiting on word to make sure that dog is ok....Hmmm sounds like we still care and devote even more time in educating.

I hope that made sense..

Donna

[admin]

Thread closed at request of OP.