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08-03-2010, 09:13 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: goose creek, sc, us
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| need some advice please.... teacup yorkie had pups I have a yorkie who weighted in at 4.6 pounds at the vet back in may. She got hooked up with a friends dog while pup sitting and well she had the pups aug 1. the first didnt make it I am guessing it sufficated because she didnt open the sak and the second one we were able to open the sak and help it to breath because she wasnt doing it. She did however take care of the third one. Im wondering why she didnt do anything with the first 2 and if she is ok to have another litter seeing as she is only 4 pounds and i would just like more information. We are keeping the pup that we had to bottle feed and care for that night and the other is going to a friend. We are not trying to become breeders and pay our mortgage by her having pups by no means but I do want to make sure that she will be ok.. She is taking excellent care of both pups now. any advice would be great and thank you |
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08-04-2010, 01:49 AM | #3 |
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| Yorkies need assistance when whelping & it's a miracle your girl didn't need a c-sect. I'm wondering if you had done all the research & many hours of reading & studying, maybe the pup could have been saved...you would have known what to do. It's a shame what you & the mommy pup had to go through & I'm sorry for your loss. But I'm a bit puzzled why you would breed her again if the 1st time was an accident? If you're not trying to be a breeder, then why breed her again?
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08-04-2010, 02:17 AM | #4 |
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| Yorkies just do not do the whelping themself. You always have to help them. You should have had her spayed already and not have accidents. Health tested mom and dad?? This should have been done and you should still do the normal helath testings on them. YOu have a long road ahead with care of pups and mom now. The pups will need to be tested before they go to the new owners. You also need tail dockings and dewclaws and their vaccines and regular health check ups as they grow. This all cost money. You will also need to check on the pups, especially now while young since mom can sit on them wrong or other problems can arise. So I always have the mom and pups next to my bed all through the night, this way I can wake up if they cry. Then keep them warm, not too hot and not too cool. Then you have the cleaning - keep bedding alwyas clean and when they start to eat food (weaning them) the mom will no longer clean them. There is a lot to raising pups. Then you have interviews and references to do on the new owners and the time spent talking to people and them coming to you home. It really is a lot of work. Most of the time, yorkies have c-sections and they can run quite high - 800 - 2,000. depending on your area and the vet as well as what time the c-section is needed (after hours or not). Plus the time spent with mom and pups after the c-section - often hand feeding mom and more trips to the vet for after care of mom. It is best to have her spayed now after the pups are older. And once your dog has a litter, you are consisdered a breeder now, accident or not. I do not believe in accidents, only carelessness and lesss concern. Last edited by topknot; 08-04-2010 at 02:21 AM. |
08-04-2010, 04:21 AM | #5 |
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| I didn't say I'd let her hve another I was just wondering if it would be ok for her... The male was the same size as her so that's why she didn't need a c-section... She is 2 yrs old and from what I was told from my vet that isn't too young... And as for the snotty comments there not needed I personally don't care how you feel... No one told you to put your 2 cents in I was asking for advice... I am new to the site and just as others wants valid advise not your worthless opinions.... Thank you |
08-04-2010, 04:26 AM | #6 |
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| You were given excellent advice...you just didnt like the advice you were given cause it didnt match with your thinking. If you ask for advice on a forum...you have to be open to all opinions...otherwise , WHY are you even asking?
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08-04-2010, 04:32 AM | #7 | ||
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For the record, the male being the same size has NOTHING to do with whether or not she needed a c-section. The size and genetics of the breeding pair alone mean little. You have to factor in the traits and sizes of the OTHER dogs in their lines as well. In any event, it's all a moot point. Your female, being considerably under 5 lbs, is too small to safely breed. It would be in HER best interest to have her spayed and prevent any further "accidents." Please take the time to research here on YT and elsewhere what you need to do from this point. Just because the pups are here now does not mean you are out of the woods. The next few weeks will be critical for the survival of the pup AND your girl and there is still a lot you need to do for them in order to ensure their health. Last edited by BamaFan121s; 08-04-2010 at 04:33 AM. | ||
08-04-2010, 04:34 AM | #8 |
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| Excuse my manners, Welcome to YT. As for snotty comments, I don't see any. I take everyone's opinions as valuable info...it's a shame you think it as worthless. It's also ironic that you ask for advice on an open public forum & lash out at the people that are trying to give you advice & taking the time to respond to you. FYI, just bc a male is the same or smaller size doesn't mean you'll get small puppies. Did you also know that a male can 'throw' tinies or larger pups? A reputable breeder knows her lines & where it comes from, also does all the extensive & expensive tests like topknot mentioned. I think you're also here to learn, so put down that shield & don't take offense. You'll be glad you did.
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08-04-2010, 04:46 AM | #9 | |
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The current wisdom of this club and many others, and many of the experienced breeders here on YT, is that for a female that is under 5lbs do not breed. You do Risk her Life. My advice then is to spay and not breed her again. So you got lucky this time with size of the pups, doesn't mean the next time will be the same. I also hope that your vet has warned you of postnatal dangers, mastitis, eclampsia, how to recognize those signs in your nursing dam. You, the mom, and the pups are not out of the woods yet. Again there are stickies on here about some of the dangers which are located at the top of the forum. I wish you the best for your pups. Welcome to YT
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08-04-2010, 04:52 AM | #10 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Sorry stickies on this topic are posted in the YT Library; here is one Dog Breeding - Your Questions Answered
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08-04-2010, 05:16 AM | #13 | |
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As others have stated these next few days and weeks are crucial, to the mom and the pups. So many things can go wrong, so you must keep a 24 hour round the clock watchful eye. For the next 12 weeks your life is 100% devoted to this mom and her pups. As has already been stated, there is so much in determining whether a girl is healthy enough to carry a litter and whelp. Your girl is much to small to breed. One thing thing that people don't consider when breeding one this small, is how many pups a bitch will concieve. Carrying 2 or 3 may not be a problem, but what if she concieves 5 or 6......her reproductive system is much to small and may not carry them to term, resulting in a whole different set of complications.
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08-04-2010, 05:40 AM | #15 | |
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You got very valid advice from those who have experience. I have experience in breeding - but no way would I breed yorkies. They need special attention when whelping. Also, why, when your little one is in heat would you put her in a position where she could get pregnant? She shouldn't have been unsupervised with a male dog around. Please, for your little ones sake, get her spayed ASAP.
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