need some advice please.... teacup yorkie had pups

[mojo]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

I'm sure you had (I hope) the common sense to rip open the sack if the mom didn't...& you had the instincts to take your girl right away to the vet. After your ordeal, you decided breeding is not for you.
The OP specifically made this thread to see if she can breed her girl again. She has the intentions...her being defensive says it all!

Nope. I pretty much think the gist of it was if the mom wanted it to live, she would have opened the sack

[Rachael x]

I actually feel physically sick....

[peachbongi]

I've been wrapped up in GE that I just now found this thread. I really need to send my box out now so I can catch up. LOL


Here is my question...(as if it even matters now.)

After the two dogs tied, you know by accident and all. What did you do with the next 60 or so days? I watched every video, read every book and every thread I could get time to watch and read. I spoke to as many breeders as I could and still didn't feel ready. One of the first things I learned was about the sack. ???? I'm really heart broken over this thread, because if I had lost Obi during birth I don't think I could have bread Tink again. Not saying it has anything to do with anything but, I would have been devastated as a first time breeder. The last thing I would have done is chance losing my mom after watching the baby die.

I hope you find what your looking for be it advise or justification, but mostly I hope you find knowledge.

[Furbaby Friend]

...people can neglect researching things when they have the time! Research is important! ::sigh:: Okay so you don't actually want to read up? Well don't call the expert breeders here less than intelligent because some random vet told you otherwise. Here let me make an analogy for you...not that you're reading this anymore, but maybe it will help someone else who doesn't understand get it.

A vet is like a primary care doctor. A primary care doctor can tell you a lot of stuff because they went to medical school and such, BUT a *good* doctor refers you a a specialist when they are out of their league.

So moving along, you become pregnant. Where do human women go when they are preggers? When they need prenatal care? Birthing care? After care? What about after care for the baby? A primary care physician? Nope, they go to a gynecologist for their own prenatal care, birthing, and personal after care because gynecologists have the specific knowledge and went for extra specialized schooling to get more info on that specific field. Babies eventually go to a *pediatrician* and not a primary care physician until they are old enough to because children are also a special case to deal with.

Therefore, I'd say the breeders here as FAR better equipped than a primary care vet and especially more than an emergency vet.

Ever been to the emergency room? Well I have, quite a bit actually, due to my health complications (allergies/asthma/etc.) The release papers ALWAYS tell you to follow up with your primary because they know more about you and your history and are more equipped to handle your personal situation. Docs in ERs actually hardly know anything if whatever is wrong with you isn't easy to pinpoint either. They often tell you to follow up elsewhere.

My two sense is I'd trust the breeders here to know their stuff, especially about Yorkies because that is what they dedicate their LIVES to. Your vet is dedicated to a wide array of animals and I'm sure doesn't have room in their head to know everything there is to know about all of them. Unless you went to a specialized vet, which it doesn't seem like you did. I'd trust the people here...

That's just my opinion though I guess, but my experience in life, logic, and simple analogy tells me it is a good one. ::shrug::

I'm praying for those puppies to make it. <3

[KYBLUE]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

She did not need a section because you used a male the same size..thank you so much for that information, it is priceless, will save us all sections in the future...I guess the vets can close up the shop now...thanks again.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by Furbaby Friend

...people can neglect researching things when they have the time! Research is important! ::sigh:: Okay so you don't actually want to read up? Well don't call the expert breeders here less than intelligent because some random vet told you otherwise. Here let me make an analogy for you...not that you're reading this anymore, but maybe it will help someone else who doesn't understand get it.

A vet is like a primary care doctor. A primary care doctor can tell you a lot of stuff because they went to medical school and such, BUT a *good* doctor refers you a a specialist when they are out of their league.

So moving along, you become pregnant. Where do human women go when they are preggers? When they need prenatal care? Birthing care? After care? What about after care for the baby? A primary care physician? Nope, they go to a gynecologist for their own prenatal care, birthing, and personal after care because gynecologists have the specific knowledge and went for extra specialized schooling to get more info on that specific field. Babies eventually go to a *pediatrician* and not a primary care physician until they are old enough to because children are also a special case to deal with.

Therefore, I'd say the breeders here as FAR better equipped than a primary care vet and especially more than an emergency vet.

Ever been to the emergency room? Well I have, quite a bit actually, due to my health complications (allergies/asthma/etc.) The release papers ALWAYS tell you to follow up with your primary because they know more about you and your history and are more equipped to handle your personal situation. Docs in ERs actually hardly know anything if whatever is wrong with you isn't easy to pinpoint either. They often tell you to follow up elsewhere.

My two sense is I'd trust the breeders here to know their stuff, especially about Yorkies because that is what they dedicate their LIVES to. Your vet is dedicated to a wide array of animals and I'm sure doesn't have room in their head to know everything there is to know about all of them. Unless you went to a specialized vet, which it doesn't seem like you did. I'd trust the people here...

That's just my opinion though I guess, but my experience in life, logic, and simple analogy tells me it is a good one. ::shrug::

I'm praying for those puppies to make it. <3

Excellent post!!!

[Furbaby Friend]

DvlshAngel985: Thanks! I thought it might be pertinent to post it anyway, even if the OP is no longer reading (well according to them anyway). It seems like that is a popular practice here so that people don't become misinformed or so people who haven't done the research can find it in an easier place.

I thought it was important to try and make everyone understand because some might have thought, "Well she did go the vet and the vet is a doctor with a degree, so the vet is obviously the authority here." Which I don't believe to be true. I think it is pretty easy for anyone to understand the terms because while people don't always understand others (animals included), they are (generally) very good at understanding what pertains to them!

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by Furbaby Friend

DvlshAngel985: Thanks! I thought it might be pertinent to post it anyway, even if the OP is no longer reading (well according to them anyway). It seems like that is a popular practice here so that people don't become misinformed or so people who haven't done the research can find it in an easier place.

I thought it was important to try and make everyone understand because some might have thought, "Well she did go the vet and the vet is a doctor with a degree, so the vet is obviously the authority here." Which I don't believe to be true. I think it is pretty easy for anyone to understand the terms because while people don't always understand others (animals included), they are (generally) very good at understanding what pertains to them!

Very good point, and I think it's very clear.