need some advice please.... teacup yorkie had pups

[lovemymisty]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Lovemymisty, you don't realize how lucky you are that your little girl survived this. If you really love Misty you will have her spayed and not take such a gamble with her life.

Just so you and everyone else know I called the emergency vet when she got hooked with the male and they said she would be fine. I took her in when she started to look pregnant and they said she would be fine put her on puppy food which I already knew that and just wait 63 days from the hook date...
I called the vet after she had them and again they said her little went well and that she left the pup alone because she knew something was wrong same with the second one. Glad we could save that one and now she is taking great care of them both...

I again called the vet and asked if she could have another litter and they said it sounds like her litter went well and there is no reason for her not to have another litter even if she is only 4.6 pounds....

so did you all go to vet school i dont think you did but thanks for all the advice, judgements, ect....


*** the other thing the vet told me was to be careful what you read on the internet because most of it is opinion and not fact


once again thanks but im out.... will no longet be reading this....

ill get my info from the real professionals not the breeders

[Roccosmommy]

I feel so sad for little Misty, to have an owner that doesn't care about risking her life and is more concerned about using her for trial and error breeder lessons. And to dismiss all of the valuable information you've been given here by such knowledgable, presitgious breeders as Mardelin is just disgusting.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

Just so you and everyone else know I called the emergency vet when she got hooked with the male and they said she would be fine. I took her in when she started to look pregnant and they said she would be fine put her on puppy food which I already knew that and just wait 63 days from the hook date...
I called the vet after she had them and again they said her little went well and that she left the pup alone because she knew something was wrong same with the second one. Glad we could save that one and now she is taking great care of them both...

I again called the vet and asked if she could have another litter and they said it sounds like her litter went well and there is no reason for her not to have another litter even if she is only 4.6 pounds....

so did you all go to vet school i dont think you did but thanks for all the advice, judgements, ect....


*** the other thing the vet told me was to be careful what you read on the internet because most of it is opinion and not fact


once again thanks but im out.... will no longet be reading this....

ill get my info from the real professionals not the breeders

Wow you are something else. Is your vet a yorkie breeder? Has Whelped litters in the past? Probably not otherwise he wouldn't be giving you such garbage advice. You must be truly sick to say you don't want info from GOOD BREEDERS. But I guess you gotta do what you gotta do

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

Just so you and everyone else know I called the emergency vet when she got hooked with the male and they said she would be fine. I took her in when she started to look pregnant and they said she would be fine put her on puppy food which I already knew that and just wait 63 days from the hook date...
I called the vet after she had them and again they said her little went well and that she left the pup alone because she knew something was wrong same with the second one. Glad we could save that one and now she is taking great care of them both...

I again called the vet and asked if she could have another litter and they said it sounds like her litter went well and there is no reason for her not to have another litter even if she is only 4.6 pounds....

so did you all go to vet school i dont think you did but thanks for all the advice, judgements, ect....


*** the other thing the vet told me was to be careful what you read on the internet because most of it is opinion and not fact


once again thanks but im out.... will no longet be reading this....

ill get my info from the real professionals not the breeders

Not all vets are breed specific professionals. Many vets ask advice from the breeders reguarding certain breeds of dogs.
I think you seem to be more in love with the idea of having puppies and making $$$$$ than you are actually in love with Misty. You do know you are putting her health and life at risk with every breeding you do, dont you? If you vet didnt tell you this, it is time to get another vet. To bad you are so closed minded to all the GREAT advice that was given to you by GREAT breeders. Its actually Misty's loss that you didnt listen.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

I have a yorkie who weighted in at 4.6 pounds at the vet back in may. She got hooked up with a friends dog while pup sitting and well she had the pups aug 1. the first didnt make it I am guessing it sufficated because she didnt open the sak and the second one we were able to open the sak and help it to breath because she wasnt doing it. She did however take care of the third one.

Im wondering why she didnt do anything with the first 2 and if she is ok to have another litter seeing as she is only 4 pounds and i would just like more information. We are keeping the pup that we had to bottle feed and care for that night and the other is going to a friend. We are not trying to become breeders and pay our mortgage by her having pups by no means but I do want to make sure that she will be ok..

She is taking excellent care of both pups now.

any advice would be great and thank you

I guess you forgot you said ANY advice would be great. But you should of put ONLY the advice I want to hear!!

[gemy]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

Just so you and everyone else know I called the emergency vet when she got hooked with the male and they said she would be fine. I took her in when she started to look pregnant and they said she would be fine put her on puppy food which I already knew that and just wait 63 days from the hook date...
I called the vet after she had them and again they said her little went well and that she left the pup alone because she knew something was wrong same with the second one. Glad we could save that one and now she is taking great care of them both...

I again called the vet and asked if she could have another litter and they said it sounds like her litter went well and there is no reason for her not to have another litter even if she is only 4.6 pounds....

so did you all go to vet school i dont think you did but thanks for all the advice, judgements, ect...

You called an emergency vet, and without examining your girl he/she said she would be fine?? How well did this emergency vet know your dog? I've never experienced a vet offer an opinion on a dog of mine that they have never seen.
If this is indeed factual, then this is a vet I'd not do business with.


*** the other thing the vet told me was to be careful what you read on the internet because most of it is opinion and not fact


once again thanks but im out.... will no longet be reading this....

ill get my info from the real professionals not the breeders

You called an emergency vet and they said she would be fine, sight unseen, no history with your female? And you think this is proper vet care and advice?

Her litter went well? Your litter is what 2-3 days old? She successfully birthed three pups, one died in the sac, one you broke the sac, and to this moment survives. Do you know yet if those pups are healthy? No you do not. These pups will need to have health checks done.

Yes one should definitely be carefull with what you read on the net. So get some reputable books on breeding, find advise from a Repro Vet, who is experienced in toy breeds and breeding.

I linked in an earlier post about reputable links and organizations whose sole purpose is the care an nuturing of this breed. My guess is you won't go there.

So miracle happen everyday, I hope that a miracle will occur, and your pups and Mom will survive and be healthy despite your lack of knowledge.

[WinstonMom]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

Just so you and everyone else know I called the emergency vet when she got hooked with the male and they said she would be fine. I took her in when she started to look pregnant and they said she would be fine put her on puppy food which I already knew that and just wait 63 days from the hook date...
I called the vet after she had them and again they said her little went well and that she left the pup alone because she knew something was wrong same with the second one. Glad we could save that one and now she is taking great care of them both...

I again called the vet and asked if she could have another litter and they said it sounds like her litter went well and there is no reason for her not to have another litter even if she is only 4.6 pounds....

so did you all go to vet school i dont think you did but thanks for all the advice, judgements, ect....


*** the other thing the vet told me was to be careful what you read on the internet because most of it is opinion and not fact


once again thanks but im out.... will no longet be reading this....

ill get my info from the real professionals not the breeders

So according to your vet, all those sacks that I have opened because the mom didn't open them contained pups that had something wrong with them. I wonder why so many of them are alive and thriving now.

[Vinniedoggy]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

I again called the vet and asked if she could have another litter and they said it sounds like her litter went well and there is no reason for her not to have another litter even if she is only 4.6 pounds....

Visit your local pound or shelter and see how many dogs there are that are in need of homes. Your dog needs to be spayed. As soon as she is physically able to undergo the procedure, it MUST be done. If you love her and you have any compassion for animals, SPAY YOUR DOG.

Sadly, many yorkies and other small dogs wind up in horrific situations. I have worked with rescues and seen it first hand. If you have any bit of intelligence and any compassion for animals, you will understand why your dog should NOT be having any additional litters.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

yes id like to know what is to come with her and the pups but i am not looking to breed and worthless opinions are not what im looking for and i am also not looking for others to judge so if you have a problem move to the next post that also goes for the others...



im looking for valuable information not opinions from those of you who breed and get paid.... I have not sold a puppy so no i am not a breeder I havent sent in for papers or anything of that matter. I thought the whole experience was amazing even if we did lose a pup. The gift of life is one that should always be seen as a miracle and a blessing...

Wow. Just wow.

FYI- your bitch had pups. That makes YOU a breeder. Period.


Same old story. Someone does something stupid. Comes here and wants everyone to applaud them. Then when she doesn't get it, she gets pissy.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

Just so you and everyone else know I called the emergency vet when she got hooked with the male and they said she would be fine. I took her in when she started to look pregnant and they said she would be fine put her on puppy food which I already knew that and just wait 63 days from the hook date...
I called the vet after she had them and again they said her little went well and that she left the pup alone because she knew something was wrong same with the second one. Glad we could save that one and now she is taking great care of them both...

I again called the vet and asked if she could have another litter and they said it sounds like her litter went well and there is no reason for her not to have another litter even if she is only 4.6 pounds....

so did you all go to vet school i dont think you did but thanks for all the advice, judgements, ect....


*** the other thing the vet told me was to be careful what you read on the internet because most of it is opinion and not fact


once again thanks but im out.... will no longet be reading this....

ill get my info from the real professionals not the breeders

Once of the reasons I chose my vet is because he said he looks to really great breeders for breed specific information. The YTCA really are the experts when it comes to the Yorkshire Terrier, and your vet would be wise to listen to the experts. Some of the breeders here who have answered your questions are among the best. Yorkietalk isn't just any forum; we have some extremely knowledgeable people here. You might get bad advice, but someone will come around and clear it up. I'm a little confused, what type of advise did you want from us? You ask for advice, it's given, and then you say, your vet knows more than any of us. I will tell you, I've read way too many threads here on how a tiny would accidentally get pregnant and vet thought it would be ok, but it died. I suppose the death of your Misty is a chance your vet is willing to take, but are you? My advice since you have so little confidence in the answers you are receiving is to take your questions to your vet. Breeders may not be able to answer your questions on how to do surgery, but good breeders do know lots about breeding, they studied it for years before they decided to breed.

[Mardelin]

There are so many things that can happen to your girl and puppies from this point on. I'm a bit confused as to what you want and if any further advice would be falling on deaf ears or blind eyes anyway.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

There are so many things that can happen to your girl and puppies from this point on. I'm a bit confused as to what you want and if any further advice would be falling on deaf ears or blind eyes anyway.

Mary she said she was done with this thread. We are all idiots, only have uninformed opinions to offer.

Vets of course are the only ones that know anything about breeding, and dogs etal.

I posted links to thread on breeding. Woogie Man offered advice in these very dangerous early whelp days on what to watch for. So she has been advised, referred to, and helped in the ways that we can.

Whether she takes this advice or not is up to her and God. But at least for others who may read this thread, there is enough information to go forward with.

[smartpuppiepets]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

I have a yorkie who weighted in at 4.6 pounds at the vet back in may. She got hooked up with a friends dog while pup sitting and well she had the pups aug 1. the first didnt make it I am guessing it sufficated because she didnt open the sak and the second one we were able to open the sak and help it to breath because she wasnt doing it. She did however take care of the third one.

Im wondering why she didnt do anything with the first 2 and if she is ok to have another litter seeing as she is only 4 pounds and i would just like more information. We are keeping the pup that we had to bottle feed and care for that night and the other is going to a friend. We are not trying to become breeders and pay our mortgage by her having pups by no means but I do want to make sure that she will be ok..

She is taking excellent care of both pups now.

any advice would be great and thank you

To your questions: Yorkies do need a lot of assistance during whelping , or delivery , and it is not a surprise she did not tend to the first 2 puppies right away, it usually is responsibility of the yorkie breeder to do that part and suction the puppies and "get them going " as they need it done. Also the breeder must cut the umbilical cords as so many things can go wrong if let alone to mom take care of it, recently a puppy had it's leg eaten by the bitch trying to cut the cord her self and needed the leg amputated.
The other answer, she sure was not too young at 2 years old, but was she all tested and approved to be a breeder? the least of problems arrive at birth , years to come are also the breeder responsibility and all testing should be done when selecting a breeder bitch or stud.
The fact that the male is the same size has little to do with her c-section free delivery. just get more informed about that as you seem to have a misconception over the issue.
Her size is not the most preferred size for breeding bitch, the most preferred size is usually 5 pounds and above.
The chances of her "free whelping" again are pretty good considering the fact that she free whelped the first time around, specially if you do a repeated mate.
The fact that the first puppy may have been a "STILL BORN" as it sounds like it , or a puppy that dies soon after birth and you did not do an autopsy right away to find out the reason goes against the idea of keep breeding the couple, there is no point to keep breeding health compromised puppies.
If you plan to breed her again, your best route is to go ahead and both bitch and stud all tested before second trial. That will diminish your chances of producing puppies that will have a compromised life later on.
You must be thinking aftermath, not only birth. Many problems that arrive as the dogs matures and after year 3 or 4 and will severely affect both quality of life and life span , could be avoided by practicing best breeder selection. And that includes the steps you have been advised to take. Unfortunately many pure breeds have so many healthy issues and most of them could have been avoided by breed selection. Studying a pedigree is another important step.
You should look into genetic implications and learn some more about it in dogs, you will enjoy, it is fascinating.
It is not fair to produce puppies that will be diabetes at 5 years old, or become blind at 3 or have liver improper function and need expensive surgeries or have to be put down.
You are a smart lady, you will make good decisions after you research a little more on the breed .

XOXO

[JeanieK]

Honey, you might think you were ready for this, but the simple fact is that you didn't know any more about whelping those puppies than the mother did.

The miracle of birth turned into the cold hard facts of life.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by gemy

Mary she said she was done with this thread. We are all idiots, only have uninformed opinions to offer.

Vets of course are the only ones that know anything about breeding, and dogs etal.

I posted links to thread on breeding. Woogie Man offered advice in these very dangerous early whelp days on what to watch for. So she has been advised, referred to, and helped in the ways that we can.

Whether she takes this advice or not is up to her and God. But at least for others who may read this thread, there is enough information to go forward with.

I knew that she was done with this thread, that's why I posted what I did.....no further advice should be offerred. Evidently the ER vet knows it all and that where she should direct her questions.