need some advice please.... teacup yorkie had pups

[yorkie_mama22]

Umm maybe this will be a snotty comment but I don't even care. How could YOU just sit there and watch a puppy struggle and DIE in the sac? That is just horrible!! That puppy could of lived!!


I delivered a litter if kittens when I was 13 years old and the mother cat did not tear a sac open, my first instinict was to grab the sac and rip it open and get that kitten out!!

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

Umm maybe this will be a snotty comment but I don't even care. How could YOU just sit there and watch a puppy struggle and DIE in the sac? That is just horrible!! That puppy could of lived!!


I delivered a litter if kittens when I was 13 years old and the mother cat did not tear a sac open, my first instinict was to grab the sac and rip it open and get that kitten out!!

[chachi]

Whats done is done but you really need to get your female spayed leave the breeding to professionals. That pup that died shouldnt have. I was the same way wunexperienced with whelping and care of newborn kittens and I lost 3 kittens out of a litter of 4 before. I know you think some of the advice youve been given is harsh but I think everyone is thinking about what is best for you and your girl

[lovemymisty]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

Excuse my manners, Welcome to YT. As for snotty comments, I don't see any. I take everyone's opinions as valuable info...it's a shame you think it as worthless. It's also ironic that you ask for advice on an open public forum & lash out at the people that are trying to give you advice & taking the time to respond to you.

FYI, just bc a male is the same or smaller size doesn't mean you'll get small puppies. Did you also know that a male can 'throw' tinies or larger pups?
A reputable breeder knows her lines & where it comes from, also does all the extensive & expensive tests like topknot mentioned. I think you're also here to learn, so put down that shield & don't take offense. You'll be glad you did.

yes id like to know what is to come with her and the pups but i am not looking to breed and worthless opinions are not what im looking for and i am also not looking for others to judge so if you have a problem move to the next post that also goes for the others...



im looking for valuable information not opinions from those of you who breed and get paid.... I have not sold a puppy so no i am not a breeder I havent sent in for papers or anything of that matter. I thought the whole experience was amazing even if we did lose a pup. The gift of life is one that should always be seen as a miracle and a blessing...

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

yes id like to know what is to come with her and the pups but i am not looking to breed and worthless opinions are not what im looking for and i am also not looking for others to judge so if you have a problem move to the next post that also goes for the others...



im looking for valuable information not opinions from those of you who breed and get paid.... I have not sold a puppy so no i am not a breeder I havent sent in for papers or anything of that matter. I thought the whole experience was amazing even if we did lose a pup. The gift of life is one that should always be seen as a miracle and a blessing...

Watching a birth is a miracle and those little babies are gifts from God. But if you wanted to watch an "amazing show" go on YOUTUBE and take a look. I'm sorry your not finding the comments you were hoping for but those are LIVING creatures and I'm sure sometimes the mama dogs don't want to be bred. It's also very irresponisble to breed your dog or let accidents like that happen when you are not prepared at all!

Alot of the breeders here who sell aren't making big bucks. They test their dogs for genetic defects, show their dogs, try to improve the breed not just breed because they want to see a miracle! You don't see people delivering babies because it looks fun. You see DOCTORS who are trained professionals delivering babies! People study and learn for years before they try to breed. Theres so many dogs in the shelters who are put down because people wanted a couple miracles!

[Wylie's Mom]

lovemymisty - you are very new to YT, so first -- welcome .

I hope you have a positive experience here, but please remember that this goes both ways. You asked for advice, so people will give it.

It is not acceptable to call people names here, nor to label their opinions as worthless. And, any member may post on this thread - as long as they follow YT rules; so, please don't tell others whether or not they may post. All members are welcome to post on any thread here at YT.

It looks like you've received some great advice from many respected breeders here already, so hopefully, this has been helpful - and can continue to be so.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

yes id like to know what is to come with her and the pups but i am not looking to breed and worthless opinions are not what im looking for and i am also not looking for others to judge so if you have a problem move to the next post that also goes for the others...



im looking for valuable information not opinions from those of you who breed and get paid.... I have not sold a puppy so no i am not a breeder I havent sent in for papers or anything of that matter. I thought the whole experience was amazing even if we did lose a pup. The gift of life is one that should always be seen as a miracle and a blessing...

Since you are new, the some of posters have provided input are experienced breeders, other's are very involved in the breed. Their advice is not worthless.

Once you have bred a litter you are breeder.

What is to become of your girl and her pups, is entirely up to you.

[Nancy1999]

Lovemymisty, you don't realize how lucky you are that your little girl survived this. If you really love Misty you will have her spayed and not take such a gamble with her life.

[Vinniedoggy]

Originally Posted by lovemymisty

And as for the snotty comments there not needed I personally don't care how you feel... No one told you to put your 2 cents in I was asking for advice... I am new to the site and just as others wants valid advise not your worthless opinions.... Thank you

None of the comments I see here are snotty. They are accurate and you asked for them! There are so many homeless dogs out there who need homes. Have her spayed so that this doesn't happen again. You were negligent once; don't be negligent again and cause other animals to suffer because of your stupidity.

[MadDeDo]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

She did not need a section because you used a male the same size..thank you so much for that information, it is priceless, will save us all sections in the future...I guess the vets can close up the shop now...thanks again.

[EarthAngel]

Lovemymisty....I hope you take away from all the experienced people here just how concerned we all are for your little girl. No one answers questions here with any intended malice...purely to help you or any poster through a problem.

Whether you consider, take or leave the advice given you is solely up to you. Just know all advice is given with the best of intentions.

[WinstonMom]

OK, I am sorry if I am snotty, but I just can't sit on my fingers any more. So many of these threads start the same way, my girl just happened to be in season, my friends were pup-sitting, they just happened to have an intact male, he just happened to be a yorkie and not a bull-mastiff (thank you God), he just happened to be an appropriate size, they just happened to tie. Wow!! So many happenings.
Were you watching this birth, did it not occur to you to open the sack if the mom did not? Again, wow.
And yes, you have bred your little girl and had pups, that makes you a breeder by definition. I am guessing that you didn't do a lot of research either before or after the birth, hence the accidental pregnancy and the poor drowned baby. You have been given some great advice on this thread, like it or not, take it or leave it. You asked for opinions and you got them.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by WinstonMom

OK, I am sorry if I am snotty, but I just can't sit on my fingers any more. So many of these threads start the same way, my girl just happened to be in season, my friends were pup-sitting, they just happened to have an intact male, he just happened to be a yorkie and not a bull-mastiff (thank you God), he just happened to be an appropriate size, they just happened to tie. Wow!! So many happenings.
Were you watching this birth, did it not occur to you to open the sack if the mom did not? Again, wow.
And yes, you have bred your little girl and had pups, that makes you a breeder by definition. I am guessing that you didn't do a lot of research either before or after the birth, hence the accidental pregnancy and the poor drowned baby. You have been given some great advice on this thread, like it or not, take it or leave it. You asked for opinions and you got them.

It just kills me to think that poor pup left in the sac and her just watching the wonderful "Miracle" of life be born AND die in the same sitting. terrible

[Woogie Man]

Was the male dog a Yorkie, too? Are you planning on having the tails and dew claws done? That would need to be done at 3-5 days old.

You'll need to keep a close eye on the pups at this time. They are very fragile the first few weeks. They need to be kept warm and in a room with no drafts. The temp of the room needs to be 78-80 degrees at this time. A heating pad, set on low, should be placed so the pups can get warmth from it but not so the Mom is forced to lie on it. You also need a scale to weigh the babies daily to make sure they are gaining. They can go downhill very fast.

How is the Mom doing? Did you see her pass all the placentas? She needs to be watched for any signs of infection (smelly discharge, running a temp). Is she eating well for you? She needs to eat well and make sure she gets lots of water. She may be picky for a while and you'll have to find something she'll eat. Scrambled eggs, boiled chicken, boiled liver are good choices that most will eat. You also need to start her on calcium supplements at this time to ward off eclampsia.

From your first post, it seems like you have no experience. Don't think that just because the babies are born that you can relax. There are many things that can and do go wrong with both Mom and pups at this time. Keep a very close eye out.

[gemy]

For this poster and all others who may "stumble" upon this thread. When you post on a public forum a question, or even a statement, everyone can and will post their thoughts, opinions, advice, recommendations, suggestions.

While this thread has been opened by you, you don't own it, can't moderate it (that is the moderator's job), and as this becomes part of the public record so to speak, our concerned owners, breeders, fanciers, will make the effort to correct misconceptions, will always try to give advice that protects the health and well being of first your dog, their puppies, and the breed in general.

We do understand that you may have left this thread after your initial posting, this is unimportant in the larger scheme. That is to provide informative advice, recommendations, suggestions, for future owners of this wondrous breed.