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06-17-2010, 10:04 AM | #31 |
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| I don't do testing--but if a yorkie produces problems it is never bred by me again ! I always have pups vet checked before placing them and IF any problem is caught I don't breed the parents again. Thats one advantage of having your own breeding stock is knowing the bloodlines--bad legs run in some bloodlines--as well as liver shunt---I steer clear ! I usually save my girls back and buy new males--some work out and some don't---but I can honestly say I don't have bad legs. There is always the posibliity of buying a male with bad legs --but so far so good ! But this is why I always get vet checks before selling puppies. And if a pup developed something bad after placing I would ask for Vet reports-x-ray etc. but I'd refund the money in full and if the person wanted to keep the puppy that would be fine with me. How do you other breeders work ?? Would you do the same ? Last edited by k Owensk9; 06-17-2010 at 10:06 AM. |
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06-17-2010, 11:08 AM | #32 |
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| Unfortunately health issues don't always show up with young puppies. I like to keep in touch with any puppy owners, easy to do as I don't ship. Of course I would do the right things should something come up. No i would not breed the parents again. |
06-17-2010, 11:55 AM | #33 | |
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06-17-2010, 12:07 PM | #34 |
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| I sell limited on most pups but do sell some show prospects with full registration---but all my pups are guaranteed for health ! |
06-17-2010, 12:21 PM | #35 | |
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Can I ask why you don't do health testing before breeding? It seems like you'd want to health test so you won't end up having to have a puppy with a problem at the next vet visit. And what happens to said puppy if it does have a problem? Do you sell it anyways? And to the Op, I pretty much agree with everyone else. Although some "breeders" can get pretty snippy and not award you the price of the puppy (or anything really) if you don't have a guarantee (i dunno if you do or you don't i don't think I read that you do). But guarantee or no guarantee you should be awarded full price of the puppy and the parents should be spayed. | |
06-17-2010, 12:45 PM | #36 |
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| I'm in a situation now that is similar to this issue.....My Jack was diagnosed with kidney disease in Feb....I haven't contacted the breeder yet about this partly because I'm well past the one year health guarantee.....How does a person know if this was genetic or not?
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06-17-2010, 12:54 PM | #37 |
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| I've had my bloodline for 15 to 20 years---I don't get bad legs ! I may one day buy a male that has or produces bad legs--but I don't get them now ! I don't think any amount of testing can Guarantee perfect pups. But if your true to never selling-producing-passing on problems. Finally you can breed out any problems---yorkies are bred to be ratters and barn dogs---not low blood sugar--cream puffs. If you breed for health and not just looks you get a well rounded fisty dog. And hopefully healthy as horses ! That's my aim---healthy-- good movement ---happy puppies and adults. If I did get a pup less than healthy I'd find it a forever home and place it FREE ---NO PAPERS ! And the Adults that produced it would be taken out of my breeding program ! |
06-17-2010, 01:01 PM | #38 | |
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Then you won't have to risk a puppy by breeding a dog that hasn't been health tested. Even yorkies who are still ratters and "barn dogs" should be health tested. If not then how can you insure it is health enough to do it job properly? | |
06-17-2010, 02:27 PM | #39 |
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| My way has worked for years I'll stick with it ! |
06-17-2010, 03:01 PM | #40 |
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06-17-2010, 03:06 PM | #41 | |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Nobody is telling you that you have to change it, but it does sound like you are recommending it, and this is what I have a problem with. Breeders are always saying they "know" their lines, and this means different things to different people. Many health risks are associated with the recessive gene, and that means they may not show up, but you will be passing it along, so just knowing the line isn't enough. According to the YTCA: Quote:
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06-17-2010, 03:28 PM | #42 | |
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06-17-2010, 03:30 PM | #43 | |
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06-17-2010, 04:09 PM | #44 | |
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My statement is only expanding and giving an insight to breeding. As in Liver Shunt, it can lay dormant for 9 generations, dogs testing clear of the disease. Then bam, the right or wrong two dogs (having been bile acid tested, and all the right tests performed) being bred and a shunt pup is produced. Breeding is a crap shoot, a scarey one. But, a responsible breeder, even though having the necessary tests performed, is one that will stand by their breeding. An unscrupulous breeder may still test, but should some ugly disease rear it's ugly head, will tell the puppy buyer, well I tested and it's never happened, so I'm not taking responsibility. In other words a contract is only as good as the two people signing it.
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06-17-2010, 04:23 PM | #45 | |
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Thanks for clearing that up for me | |
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