Females try to kill each other!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by tammy8833

karma's a $#%^$$

YES IT IS! and it goes both ways

I can tell you that I am not worried about mine. I do know there are people on this thread who better start thinking long and hard about theirs.
I don't see ANY way that God is smiling down on people who abuse his little creatures who have no voices to speak for themselves.

And, don't even suggest to me that my karma stinks because I speak up for these poor little angels who are being used for money by people who are probably too lazy to get a real job. If that makes me mean for saying it, good....I will proudly wear that tag.....and not EVER fear my karma for having done it.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

I haven't read this whole thread, but seems its got a little crazy. and I didnt see that the OP wanted to re home her Female. while I think rescues are great I have told a lot of people about rescues , But didnt this little girl already come from a rescue? or is it just that she said she rescued her else where? any ways if she came from a rescue I dont think Id send her back yet again. what this girl needs is for someone to be there with her 24/7 work with her. and if the OP wants to re home her, give me your price Id be happy to give her a forever loving home.

This dog was not a rescue dog. She does not know that it was ever abused either. The dog displayed behaviors that suggested it may have been. She is on here asking question so that she can provide people with better than she got when she started and a few people here really have gave good suggestions.

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by tammy8833

karma's a $#%^$$

YES IT IS! and it goes both ways

I'm not too worried as I've never lived off the backs of my dogs or bred unethically.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I can tell you that I am not worried about mine. I do know there are people on this thread who better start thinking long and hard about theirs.
I don't see ANY way that God is smiling down on people who abuse his little creatures who have no voices to speak for themselves.

And, don't even suggest to me that my karma stinks because I speak up for these poor little angels who are being used for money by people who are probably too lazy to get a real job. If that makes me mean for saying it, good....I will proudly wear that tag.....and not EVER fear my karma for having done it.

Yes telling disabled people who are truly disabled to get a job does make you a mean person, wear it with pride and may the shoe never be on the other foot.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Yes telling disabled people who are truly disabled to get a job does make you a mean person, wear it with pride and may the shoe never be on the other foot.

Hmm then I am sure the government would be interested to know she is making a living off of dogs...I just wonder how she is reporting her income for this......and if she is so disabled then why is she responsible for living creatures. Being disable does not mean you can do anything you want and it certainly doesn't excuse breeding anything and everything. It also does not excuse someone from doing their research and their homework before they breed.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by bonbon

Start with her post #172 where she said this "The Xpen is being used, and I also put Calypso up for adoption before I even put anything on this group about her!!!! "

Thanks for pointing the post # . to much to read here, and I didnt have time but I didnt mean she didnt say it, just that I didnt see it.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

You sit here calling people ignorant and feel that that makes you better than the people you are talking about? Interesting.

I am on here to help and learn and not to attack people I do not know and yes I do feel that makes me a better person than those who do. What kind of person tells a handicapped person to get a job? To me this is just the same as making fun of a person with a handicap. Does it make you feel better about yourselves?

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Yes telling disabled people who are truly disabled to get a job does make you a mean person, wear it with pride and may the shoe never be on the other foot.

How do you know that anyone is disabled? Just because someone on the internet said they are? Or...are YOU disabled? Whoever is...I DO hope that if you are on Social Security you are reporting your INCOME from breeding.
Anyone who can breed dogs and clean up their messes, etc. can find some kind of JOB.
Don't EVEN try to flip this ...I know all about this kind of nonsense.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

Hmm then I am sure the government would be interested to know she is making a living off of dogs...I just wonder how she is reporting her income for this......and if she is so disabled then why is she responsible for living creatures. Being disable does not mean you can do anything you want and it certainly doesn't excuse breeding anything and everything. It also does not excuse someone from doing their research and their homework before they breed.

wow again you can not read. She does not say she is making a living off her dogs. She did say it helps supplement her income which last time I checked was not to much for disabled people.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Was this breeder's name Maxine by any chance?

yes it is, You knew it was. you had asked her this in a few other threads.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

I am on here to help and learn and not to attack people I do not know and yes I do feel that makes me a better person than those who do. What kind of person tells a handicapped person to get a job? To me this is just the same as making fun of a person with a handicap. Does it make you feel better about yourselves?

hahahahahah You know...I did not read the second to last line thoroughly. You really think that you can accuse me of making fun of a person with a handicap?
You actually have me sitting here right now laughing out loud at this one.

and you feel you are a better person...how interesting....

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti
Yes, motherhen has already informed me of the situation and is currently trying to find a new home for the problem girl.

So, is motherhen going to have her spayed and then rehome her in a pet only home or is she just going to sell her off to another breeder?

Elaine

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

How do you know that anyone is disabled? Just because someone on the internet said they are? Or...are YOU disabled? Whoever is...I DO hope that if you are on Social Security you are reporting your INCOME from breeding.
Anyone who can breed dogs and clean up their messes, etc. can find some kind of JOB.
Don't EVEN try to flip this ...I know all about this kind of nonsense.

I do what I do because I love doing it. I am not disabled. I do not receive any kind of assistance and I help other people who are disabled when I can. Oh, and I report my dog income. I could find another job in a heartbeat, I am fully qualified to do many things, none of which has brought me the satisfaction I get from what I do now. Flip that

[WinstonMom]

This thread has had me in tears as well. I consider myself to be a fairly decent and reputable breeder. I show my dogs, I study pedigrees, I test my dogs for genetic disorders, I temperment test, I thought I was doing everything the right way. I have two girls that have never had a problem with aggression (either with people or with other dogs) who out of the blue one day at age 5 decided that they no longer could stand each other and each would prefer that the other was dead. I prevent their fights by separating them. I have daughters from each of them living in my home and others have pups from these girls as well. I have a champion from one of these moms. Neither the girls that I kept nor any of my puppy owners has had a problem with aggression from any of the pups.
These two girls only hate each other. They would accept the pups of each other in a heartbeat as their own. I have never seen any form of aggression other then to each other.
I firmly believe that there is no genetic defect in these two girls that causes them to fight and I do not believe that I am perpetuating the problem of aggression by having bred them. At any rate, both of these girls have been spayed so I will no longer be perpetuating the problem.
I certainly do not condone that the OP bred this little girl who came from an abused past but as far as the fighting is concerned I do believe that the problem can happen to anyone.

Audrey

[tammy8833]

first i highly doubt a large number of breeders report any income from their puppies...might be some but not many...im sure the clique on here do since they do everything so right

my karma's all gooood!..

i also noticed that once the op backed off and the "defenders" or the following "breeders" as quotes with the quotation marks like in the other thread commented..the clique got their way and hijacked the entire thread with their dominating superior attitudes and then once they were all gone started chatting and being happy go lucky..

you, and im not specifically naming anyone, apparently werent able to resolve anything or be of any help in the way educational advice/direction was addressed...all that was accomplished was running the op off...bravo!