Females try to kill each other!

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by Woogie Man

Hahaha....don't you hate that? If I have to get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, my spot gets taken over and I come back to a little tail wagging and a cheesy grin. Like I warmed up that spot just for them to lie in...

Like I said, they let me pretend.

Aww, and here I thought only mine did that.

I prefer to think of it as them keeping my spot warm while I'm gone for a couple of minutes, but we all know better.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by bonbon

Aww, and here I thought only mine did that.

I prefer to think of it as them keeping my spot warm while I'm gone for a couple of minutes, but we all know better.

I love it when they give me that go to hell look when I push them over so I can get back into bed.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I should post a picture of myself, so you can see a breeder who gives away puppies and adults....and a picture of Isabel Dare, Merrimac Yorkies, she GAVE me a champion bitch to help my breeding program, asking nothing in return..shoot, I can list a dozen breeders who give away puppies/adults...
Kate in my avatar is granddaughter of my free bitch from Isabel...

I have given away many, many dogs, does not qualify me as a good breeder..lol
Hmmm, 11 dogs and puppies given away in the last year. $3900 used to buy dogs that I gave away for free.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by tammy8833

i think this is extremely rude and uncalled for to make arrangement for someone elses dog to be sent to a rescue...she didnt ask you to do that that i can tell...

wow!!! how presumption of you !

Well it was is ME that lives in IL and would take her in a heartbeat. So why is that presumptuous? The OPer said she is being offer to be rehomed so there you go. No need to look any further. Tell me when and where and I will be there.

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Well it was is ME that lives in IL and would take her in a heartbeat. So why is that presumptuous? The OPer said she is being offer to be rehomed so there you go. No need to look any further. Tell me when and where and I will be there.

I completely missed that post!!

Wow!!! Tammy, I did not make arrangements to send someone else's dog to a rescue - I don't have that power. However, the op has said repeatedly that she's trying to find a new home for this poor girl, that she's put her up for adoption, etc. If that's not leaving the door open to rehoming suggestions, I don't know what is. I offered the services of a very reputable rescue to take her in, spay her and make sure she finds a wonderful loving home. I asked her to pm me so that we could make arrangement - I NEVER said that arrangements has already been made. It's rather presumptuous of you to assume that I had done so. I'd like to point out that the op has not acknowledged any of the offers made to her on this thread to help place this baby. We'll see how serious she really is about finding a new home for her. If money is not a motivating factor for her, as she claims, turning her over to a good rescue would be the best thing she could do for this girl.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by Reese1

Excuse me, but I "rescued" Camden at 2 1/2 yrs of age from a BYB! She was a breeding dog that was of no further use to the breeder after losing a litter of pups.
She was a dog that was filthy, sick with worms, ear & eye infections, matted to the skin, and reeked of urine! She was kept in a garage with dirty bedding and dried/stale food. It was obvious the dog had never been socialized or used to any normal household noises.
My vet & grooming bills far exceeded what it would have cost me to buy a puppy from a reputable breeder. Which is why I'm always worried when people look to just buy the cheapest puppy they can find because it can come out costing them a lot more in the long run with the short cuts that a lot of BYB breeders take to breed.
I would never support BYB or puppy mills and I hope we can save as many people as possible from doing it!
I don't disagree that many have bought from these type of breeders before they knew better, but there is a difference in NOT knowing and knowing and supporting a BYB anyway!

I see you been posting that you "rescued" Camden a lot lately.
at the time You really didnt rescue her, I told you about her and that the breeder was selling her cheap and I know you would give her a wonderful home and you did. and I was so happy you got her. But at the time it wasn't rescue for you too thought that the breeder was very nice and met with her at her home. bought Camden with out any contract. so really you too was just buying a cheaper Yorkie. and some times not always but some time with a cheaper yorkie comes vet bills. It was later that we talked and decided she was not a very good breeder. oh she had wonderful lines the best, good healthy dogs. but yes they needed groomed.and I know the eye infection you talk about is/ was caused because she her self while brushing her scratched her eye. Im not defending this breeder or bashing her. while she feed her dogs the best foods / vitamins / bottled water. she still didnt keep them in like most of us here on YT do. and to me yes they needed a better life, but Camden wasn't going to a rescue she was selling her. Im the one who talked her into letting those older male/females go to rescue when she said she was done breeding because I was concerned where they would end up as you were too. so I know you now feel that you rescued her and Im so happy you do have her. but there's many here thats doing the same thing buying cheaper Yorkies and thinking they are getting a great deal while like I said before that some times also means vet bills. but you were lucky the eye infection, worms, matted hair is all easy to treat. there are many out there buy really sick Yorkies.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by bonbon

I completely missed that post!!

Wow!!! Tammy, I did not make arrangements to send someone else's dog to a rescue - I don't have that power. However, the op has said repeatedly that she's trying to find a new home for this poor girl, that she's put her up for adoption, etc. If that's not leaving the door open to rehoming suggestions, I don't know what is. I offered the services of a very reputable rescue to take her in, spay her and make sure she finds a wonderful loving home. I asked her to pm me so that we could make arrangement - I NEVER said that arrangements has already been made. It's rather presumptuous of you to assume that I had done so. I'd like to point out that the op has not acknowledged any of the offers made to her on this thread to help place this baby. We'll see how serious she really is about finding a new home for her. If money is not a motivating factor for her, as she claims, turning her over to a good rescue would be the best thing she could do for this girl.

possibly but if it was my dog i would want to personally meet with the new owners and see where my dog was going. I would only go to the rescue if I was unable to find a suitable new home or for some reason I became unable to take care of the pup before I could find a home. I love the fact there are rescues saving these wonderful pups but I would want to know who had my baby.

[ArabellasMom]

I have been watching this thread and I am completely appalled by the conduct of some individuals on this site. I wanted to keep quiet as I have learned it is better to not get involved but I had to draw the line somewhere.

It is not OK to degrade another individual. Barb is disabled and a poster tells here to "Get off the couch and get a job." I have no problem with voicing your opinion on the subject at hand but it is over the line when posters make derogatory comments towards another person.

I came here to learn and seek advise about my furbaby. I learned it is best not to post as you may be attacked or mocked at any moment. This is part of the forum that I don't like. I hate drama and negativity and have considered leaving.

I know that the wrap of YT'ers are going to come down on me for my next statement.

I am Arabella's Mommee and Arabella is Calypso daughter. I have sat here and read how my baby is going to be aggressive and out of control. It has brought me to tears. My little girl is very loving and passive. I didn't know her mothers background and do wish I had been told. It wouldn't have changed my mind about getting my little girl. Barb came here for help and is currently dealing with the situation. I understand and respect everyone's opinion on whether she should have been breed or not. Barb fully admitted that they were new to breeding and weren't as educated on the process. She is now trying to the right thing and everyone here is condemning her. I was hoping to see another breeder help guide her into the proper practices but I guess I live a dream world.

I am sure that I will be belittled for this post but I felt I needed to say my piece. I am also hoping this thread is closed soon, as it has taken a nasty turn.

I still don't know if I will stay on the site.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by ArabellasMom

I have been watching this thread and I am completely appalled by the conduct of some individuals on this site. I wanted to keep quiet as I have learned it is better to not get involved but I had to draw the line somewhere.

It is not OK to degrade another individual. Barb is disabled and a poster tells here to "Get off the couch and get a job." I have no problem with voicing your opinion on the subject at hand but it is over the line when posters make derogatory comments towards another person.

I came here to learn and seek advise about my furbaby. I learned it is best not to post as you may be attacked or mocked at any moment. This is part of the forum that I don't like. I hate drama and negativity and have considered leaving.

I know that the wrap of YT'ers are going to come down on me for my next statement.

I am Arabella's Mommee and Arabella is Calypso daughter. I have sat here and read how my baby is going to be aggressive and out of control. It has brought me to tears. My little girl is very loving and passive. I didn't know her mothers background and do wish I had been told. It wouldn't have changed my mind about getting my little girl. Barb came here for help and is currently dealing with the situation. I understand and respect everyone's opinion on whether she should have been breed or not. Barb fully admitted that they were new to breeding and weren't as educated on the process. She is now trying to the right thing and everyone here is condemning her. I was hoping to see another breeder help guide her into the proper practices but I guess I live a dream world.

I am sure that I will be belittled for this post but I felt I needed to say my piece. I am also hoping this thread is closed soon, as it has taken a nasty turn.

I still don't know if I will stay on the site.

Thank you, Well Said

[YorkieShadow]

I haven't read this whole thread, but seems its got a little crazy. and I didnt see that the OP wanted to re home her Female. while I think rescues are great I have told a lot of people about rescues , But didnt this little girl already come from a rescue? or is it just that she said she rescued her else where? any ways if she came from a rescue I dont think Id send her back yet again. what this girl needs is for someone to be there with her 24/7 work with her. and if the OP wants to re home her, give me your price Id be happy to give her a forever loving home.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by ArabellasMom

I have been watching this thread and I am completely appalled by the conduct of some individuals on this site. I wanted to keep quiet as I have learned it is better to not get involved but I had to draw the line somewhere.

It is not OK to degrade another individual. Barb is disabled and a poster tells here to "Get off the couch and get a job." I have no problem with voicing your opinion on the subject at hand but it is over the line when posters make derogatory comments towards another person.

I came here to learn and seek advise about my furbaby. I learned it is best not to post as you may be attacked or mocked at any moment. This is part of the forum that I don't like. I hate drama and negativity and have considered leaving.

I know that the wrap of YT'ers are going to come down on me for my next statement.

I am Arabella's Mommee and Arabella is Calypso daughter. I have sat here and read how my baby is going to be aggressive and out of control. It has brought me to tears. My little girl is very loving and passive. I didn't know her mothers background and do wish I had been told. It wouldn't have changed my mind about getting my little girl. Barb came here for help and is currently dealing with the situation. I understand and respect everyone's opinion on whether she should have been breed or not. Barb fully admitted that they were new to breeding and weren't as educated on the process. She is now trying to the right thing and everyone here is condemning her. I was hoping to see another breeder help guide her into the proper practices but I guess I live a dream world.

I am sure that I will be belittled for this post but I felt I needed to say my piece. I am also hoping this thread is closed soon, as it has taken a nasty turn.

I still don't know if I will stay on the site.

I agree
it is ridiculious and it happens all the time. its not helping the OP so I dont know why its allowed.

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

I haven't read this whole thread, but seems its got a little crazy. and I didnt see that the OP wanted to re home her Female. while I think rescues are great I have told a lot of people about rescues , But didnt this little girl already come from a rescue? or is it just that she said she rescued her else where? any ways if she came from a rescue I dont think Id send her back yet again. what this girl needs is for someone to be there with her 24/7 work with her. and if the OP wants to re home her, give me your price Id be happy to give her a forever loving home.

Start with her post #172 where she said this "The Xpen is being used, and I also put Calypso up for adoption before I even put anything on this group about her!!!! "

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Reese1

I don't feel bad. Camden was probably on her way to a rescue group. The breeder ended up turning over some of her dogs to a very reputable rescue group shortly after this. One of which was Camden's Mom. She did this because supposedly she was going to stop breeding and I hope that she has!

Was this breeder's name Maxine by any chance?

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by tammy8833

karma's a $#%^$$

YES IT IS! and it goes both ways

Yes they do, the ignorant who attack and belittle people they do not know stick together and the people who are truly trying to help these new breeders and other new puppy owners who come here to learn are sticking together too.

[Woogie Man]

Originally Posted by ArabellasMom

I am Arabella's Mommee and Arabella is Calypso daughter. I have sat here and read how my baby is going to be aggressive and out of control. It has brought me to tears. My little girl is very loving and passive. I didn't know her mothers background and do wish I had been told.

I think you've touched on one of the things that is so upsetting to many here. It is the risk of bad temperaments showing up in the pups. And Calypso has showed very aggressive behavior, to say the least. Though Arabella may be a sweetie, it doesn't mean that's true in all Calypso's pups. It may well be that Arabela got her temperament from her sire. I hope you enjoy many wonderful years with her.