Females try to kill each other!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by tammy8833

first i highly doubt a large number of breeders report any income from their puppies...might be some but not many...im sure the clique on here do since they do everything so right

my karma's all gooood!..

i also noticed that once the op backed off and the "defenders" or the following "breeders" as quotes with the quotation marks like in the other thread commented..the clique got their way and hijacked the entire thread with their dominating superior attitudes and then once they were all gone started chatting and being happy go lucky..

you, and im not specifically naming anyone, apparently werent able to resolve anything or be of any help in the way educational advice/direction was addressed...all that was accomplished was running the op off...bravo!

Yes, income is reported, but so are expenditures for showing....nothing to fear from Uncle Sam....my records are in order. I was taught, that nothing is worth doing, if you don't do it correctly.

Advice was given and the reason most backed off, is because the advice that was given wasn't the advice wanted. Yes, education/advice/direction was given. The answer was I spaying isn't an option because of the needed income... Simple as that.

[YorkieShadow]

This thread is so sad. none of this is helping these females or any pups.
talk about a circus. now we have members saying people needs jobs and talking about disabled people what does any of this have to do with helping the OP with her problem? no wonder people post a thread and then leave.

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

yes many can but you can not put a blanket judgement on all disabled people because many can not but would if they could.

Taking care of multiple yorkies takes a lot of work (believe me, I know). In this case, this handicapped person is also ultimately responsible for the care and upkeep of pregnant females, newborn pups, potty training, etc. So I feel it's pretty safe to assume that she's capable of doing SOMETHING. Otherwise, she has no business having multiple dogs breeding and puppies to take care of. That's not making a blanket assumption.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

This thread is so sad. none of this is helping these females or any pups.
talk about a circus. now we have members saying people needs jobs and talking about disabled people what does any of this have to do with helping the OP with her problem? no wonder people post a thread and then leave.

Horrible where this thread has gone

[tammy8833]

some of you are so focused on your animal rights and forcing your opinions that you miss your opportunities to actually do something to help what you fight for so vocally on yt

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

spoken like someone with zero experience in breeding. 1000 to 2000 for a c-section here. So let me see. it cost you 2000 in phoenix in medical bills just to have the litter or two to three pups which then sell for 500 maybe more if you are lucky. This brings you to a total profit of Negative 500 on that litter not counting food, vet check ups, x-rays or ultrasound to check the pups if you do that. Shots for your pups. Dog food. Annual dental cleaning. Yup, they are just raking in the money there.

Hmmm maybe if you wouldn't breed under 5#'s then you wouldn't have a problem. I saw what prices you put on your dogs and it wasn't $500....gee wonder what dog food you feed them.

Sure glad you don't have to work but can sit at home picking up poop.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

spoken like someone with zero experience in breeding. 1000 to 2000 for a c-section here. So let me see. it cost you 2000 in phoenix in medical bills just to have the litter or two to three pups which then sell for 500 maybe more if you are lucky. This brings you to a total profit of Negative 500 on that litter not counting food, vet check ups, x-rays or ultrasound to check the pups if you do that. Shots for your pups. Dog food. Annual dental cleaning. Yup, they are just raking in the money there.

As to your first line....you are 100% correct. I will bet that my personal vet bills and other expenses for my pups are probably higher than yours...especially in that I receive NO income from my pups.

I dont go around talking about how much I spend, but I know people who know me, know exactly what I do. I don't have to blab it around.

And, I am not referring to rescues who receive an adoption fee...I am talking about my personal pups.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by bonbon

Taking care of multiple yorkies takes a lot of work (believe me, I know). In this case, this handicapped person is also ultimately responsible for the care and upkeep of pregnant females, newborn pups, potty training, etc. So I feel it's pretty safe to assume that she's capable of doing SOMETHING. Otherwise, she has no business having multiple dogs breeding and puppies to take care of. That's not making a blanket assumption.

Taking care of your pets with the assistance of your spouse is a whole hell of a lot different than going to a job that you have to do for 8 hours a day or more, don't kid yourself.

[motherhen]

Originally Posted by bonbon

Whoa!! Don't even go there! I know many employed "handicapped" people. I know a quadriplegic who goes to work every day. There's a blind man and a woman in a wheel chair who work in my building. Several local call centers hire handicapped people to work from home using just their telephones. A local 6 year old boy whose arms and legs were amputated still participates in the things his brothers do. Do not even think of saying that this person has no other options than to make money off the backs of these animals. Even the most handicapped can dial a telephone, roll up newspapers for delivery, greet customers at Walmart in their wheelchairs, the list goes on and on.

It's a shame you weren't in court the day that the courts appointed investigator, said that there was no job, that I would be qualified doing. That was their report not mine! I hope and pray that you stay healthy and active after all that you have spouted off about!

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

Taking care of your pets with the assistance of your spouse is a whole hell of a lot different than going to a job that you have to do for 8 hours a day or more, don't kid yourself.

Oh, does her husband not work either?

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by motherhen

"Ladyjane" you my dear, are no "Lady". You must have a very bad inferiority complex, that you feel the need to belittle people. I feel very sorry for you, and I will surely include you in my prayers.
As for "that poor pup", she is and always will be, taken very good care of. Don't waste any brain cells worrying about it, you might need both of them for something that is really a problem!

I pray for her too...........for all the good that is done by her. For all of the sick pups that come into her home that she nurses back to health from all the crap breeders who make their money off the backs of poorly breed dogs.

LadyJane is MY mentor! I stand firmly behind all that she has done and continues to do to save so many and for the tears that she has shed for those she was not able to.

[Golden Parti]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

As to your first line....you are 100% correct. I will bet that my personal vet bills and other expenses for my pups are probably higher than yours...especially in that I receive NO income from my pups.

I dont go around talking about how much I spend, but I know people who know me, know exactly what I do. I don't have to blab it around.

And, I am not referring to rescues who receive an adoption fee...I am talking about my personal pups.

If you are betting me, I will take that in a heart beat and you will lose that bet. I am not bragging about my expenses in that post. I was simply stating the local cost for a procedure that can and does happen alot when breeding yorkies for those who only see the costs of these dogs and do not take into acct the expenses.

If you have an emergency in phoenix expect to pay a minimum of 1000 and most likely 2000 to 3000.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Golden Parti

I am on here to help and learn and not to attack people I do not know and yes I do feel that makes me a better person than those who do.

Except for me, right? I've seen several post where you've said "don't judge someone...have you even really talked to them, etc etc" You've never met me or talked to me personally, but that didn't stop you from forming your own opinion and making your own assumptions where I was concerned. Seems like you should take the time to apply that logic to your own way of thinking. Touche.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by motherhen

"Ladyjane" you my dear, are no "Lady". You must have a very bad inferiority complex, that you feel the need to belittle people. I feel very sorry for you, and I will surely include you in my prayers.
As for "that poor pup", she is and always will be, taken very good care of. Don't waste any brain cells worrying about it, you might need both of them for something that is really a problem!

Well now...there you are. So glad you decided to come back. Everyone said you ran away.

Hope you stick around and learn.

As for Calypso....she is a poor pup....but trust me, when I sign off the computer she and you will leave my brain. Nothing I can do..I offered and you and your pals have decided to make a mockery of it all. Does not surprise me...I never figured you really wanted to rehome her anyway since she is such a "good mother".

Oh...and thank you for the prayers. I will be doing the same for you and the pups in your home.

[BamaFan121s]

BTW...is there a way I can just hit ONE button and "report all posts?" He**, I'll even include my own in there if it helps matter!