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treasurebeauty · 08-12-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bjh

On Tiffany's website she says the following:

Since she did not give you limited registration that tells me that she knew you intended to breed the dog otherwise she would have made it limited registration. Do you have the papers already? Did the contract mention limited registration? I just don't know that you can do anymore at this point. You have made her and us aware of the problems you had so that in itself brings awareness to others that are looking to buy a puppy from her or anyone. How is the puppy doing? Have you tried to tape his ears? How old is he now and how much does he weigh? I hope you love the little boy as he is or perhaps you can find him a wonderful home if he is not what you are wanting.

I have his AKC paper already, with full registration. and nope, she didn't really have a contract sign with me. She said the contract is on her website. So I guess, there is no contract said he is limited.

The puppy is doing great. We call him Duckie. I am trying to tape his ears, but his ear is so floppy, I really don't know if the tape would help. He is 11wks old, and weight 3.4lb.

I still want to report to AKC, even though I don't know how much they can help me, but as I am talking to my local AKC field agent (the inspector that come to your place and visit you^^), she said she can help me with the process. So during these process, I think I will keep Duckie with me. He is not what I am looking for, and plus the hernia, so if I am going to place him to another family later in the future, I will have him neutered.

manina · 08-12-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by addicted

Curious... how come whenever a breeder is talked about on YT.. comes on here to defend themselves? How did they know they were being discussed? Coincidence? They google themselves everyday?

Agree ! 13 posts since 2005 ???????

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Mardelin · 08-12-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by treasurebeauty

I have his AKC paper already, with full registration. and nope, she didn't really have a contract sign with me. She said the contract is on her website. So I guess, there is no contract said he is limited.

The puppy is doing great. We call him Duckie. I am trying to tape his ears, but his ear is so floppy, I really don't know if the tape would help. He is 11wks old, and weight 3.4lb.

I still want to report to AKC, even though I don't know how much they can help me, but as I am talking to my local AKC field agent (the inspector that come to your place and visit you^^), she said she can help me with the process. So during these process, I think I will keep Duckie with me. He is not what I am looking for, and plus the hernia, so if I am going to place him to another family later in the future, I will have him neutered.

The puppy is doing great. We call him Duckie. I am trying to tape his ears, but his ear is so floppy, I really don't know if the tape would help. He is 11wks old, and weight 3.4lb.

Shave his ears all the way down on both sides....then tape, up for 5 down for 2. Keep repeating until they stay up.

I still want to report to AKC, even though I don't know how much they can help me, but as I am talking to my local AKC field agent (the inspector that come to your place and visit you^^), she said she can help me with the process. So during these process, I think I will keep Duckie with me. He is not what I am looking for, and plus the hernia, so if I am going to place him to another family later in the future, I will have him neutered.[/

The only thing that AKC can do for you is: If there is anything to do with the parentage of the pup and/or a problem with her records. For the parentage thing I think there is a big fee.

Now in defense of the pup. His ears to the side of his head is not unusual, as they grow and they develop that may change. The white on his feet and other parts of his little body will change. In addition, I've had some pretty ugly pups or at least not the cutest in the bunch turn out to be my show dog...As they've matured they've turned into a swan. Ears; right on top of their head, coats to die for, and all those white markings turn to a beautiful gold.

treasurebeauty · 08-12-2009, 10:30 AM

I just got an email from Tiffany this morning. This is what she wrote.

"I just had a few show breeders that are good friends of mine, tell me your slander me on yorkie talk, i will take suit for slander on that sight, and we longer will be doing business, i have been fair, and have gave you ample opportunity on this, now i shall file a civil suit, thank you! tiffany"

Talking about true on YorkieTalk is being describe as slander her??

I do not make things up as you all see the pictures of the puppy, as well as the pictures of the hernia on the puppy.

This is just ridiculous, and I wonder how she will be able to file a suit against the truth.

ndyorkiemom · 08-13-2009, 07:30 PM

Can I ask the name of the sire of your puppy? Just curious about something, I show my dogs but have ever only sold one as true show potenial and then the person who bought him showed him afew times and won but decided that showing was too much work and had him neutered. I also require a deposit on my puppies but if something like this situation were to come about I would gladly refund the buyers deposit unless they wanted to take a different pup. I don't know Tiffany personally so I can't and won't say anything other than I have heard stories like this before on some of her pups. As well I have heard others say that they were very pleased with the puppy they got from her.
I do agree though that the puppy should never have been sent to the OP without her being told about the hernia and if in fact she had put her deposit down for a show/breeder female that is what she should have gotten and Tiffany should have given her the female that she decided to keep for herself. I am very interested in knowing who the sire is though if you wouldn't mind saying.

treasurebeauty · 08-13-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ndyorkiemom

Can I ask the name of the sire of your puppy? Just curious about something, I show my dogs but have ever only sold one as true show potenial and then the person who bought him showed him afew times and won but decided that showing was too much work and had him neutered. I also require a deposit on my puppies but if something like this situation were to come about I would gladly refund the buyers deposit unless they wanted to take a different pup. I don't know Tiffany personally so I can't and won't say anything other than I have heard stories like this before on some of her pups. As well I have heard others say that they were very pleased with the puppy they got from her.
I do agree though that the puppy should never have been sent to the OP without her being told about the hernia and if in fact she had put her deposit down for a show/breeder female that is what she should have gotten and Tiffany should have given her the female that she decided to keep for herself. I am very interested in knowing who the sire is though if you wouldn't mind saying.

It's Dylan. The Champion she had on her website.

My import female I bought from her is perfect too. It just simply the hernia that is bother me, and I don't think it's right.

Mardelin · 08-13-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by treasurebeauty

It's Dylan. The Champion she had on her website.

My import female I bought from her is perfect too. It just simply the hernia that is bother me, and I don't think it's right.

I know Dylan, traveled with Trish when she was showing him.....

I'm just amazed that this person sold a dog on open registration to someone she didn't know and gave her the run around for months and she still didn't get what she wanted in the end.

treasurebeauty · 08-13-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

I know Dylan, traveled with Trish when she was showing him.....

I'm just amazed that this person sold a dog on open registration to someone she didn't know and gave her the run around for months and she still didn't get what she wanted in the end.

Both the parents of the boy are very nice and pretty. I love the face of Dylan and Waneska.

Mardelin · 08-14-2009, 10:34 AM

Both dogs may or are very nice. That doesn't mean that the breeding meshed well together.

AHicks99 · 08-17-2009, 09:49 AM

Who is Trish? You should really get him DNA tested to make sure he is sired from who she says he is. Im willing to bet he is not. She may be using a sire that has not been DNA tested. As another fact she breeds her males as many times as she can without getting them tested. Then sells them and the new owner has to get it done because of the AKC regulations.

treasurebeauty · 08-17-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AHicks99

Who is Trish? You should really get him DNA tested to make sure he is sired from who she says he is. Im willing to bet he is not. She may be using a sire that has not been DNA tested. As another fact she breeds her males as many times as she can without getting them tested. Then sells them and the new owner has to get it done because of the AKC regulations.

On the AKC paper she gave me, it show the puppy is out of Ch Dylan and Waneska. I also have the same concern, so I already placed and order for the DNA kit.

But I thought AKC has the regulation that is you registered the puppy using the wrong parentage, the parent's akc will be suspended?? is it?

Mardelin · 08-17-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by treasurebeauty

On the AKC paper she gave me, it show the puppy is out of Ch Dylan and Waneska. I also have the same concern, so I already placed and order for the DNA kit.

But I thought AKC has the regulation that is you registered the puppy using the wrong parentage, the parent's akc will be suspended?? is it?

I dont think that is the way it goes. The DNA is used only if there is a question on the parentage....If it proves to be incorrect, then it's up to the breeder to have pups DNA's and provide DNA on the other possible sires in her kennel.

Mardelin · 08-17-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AHicks99

Who is Trish? You should really get him DNA tested to make sure he is sired from who she says he is. Im willing to bet he is not. She may be using a sire that has not been DNA tested. As another fact she breeds her males as many times as she can without getting them tested. Then sells them and the new owner has to get it done because of the AKC regulations.

Trish is the handler that Championed Dylan

treasurebeauty · 08-17-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

I dont think that is the way it goes. The DNA is used only if there is a question on the parentage....If it proves to be incorrect, then it's up to the breeder to have pups DNA's and provide DNA on the other possible sires in her kennel.

So does that mean, if the parents information are provide incorrectly, then all the breeder needs to do is to correct it, that's all?? Or even if the breeder does not want to correct it, nothing will happen to her at all?

Mardelin · 08-17-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by treasurebeauty

So does that mean, if the parents information are provide incorrectly, then all the breeder needs to do is to correct it, that's all?? Or even if the breeder does not want to correct it, nothing will happen to her at all?

It's up to her to correct it. If the breeder doesn't provide the correct information or make her dogs available for AKC testing then she runs the risk of a fine and suspension.

08-12-2009, 10:30 AM	#64
treasurebeauty Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: La Jolla, CA, USA Posts: 47	Ridiculous I just got an email from Tiffany this morning. This is what she wrote. "I just had a few show breeders that are good friends of mine, tell me your slander me on yorkie talk, i will take suit for slander on that sight, and we longer will be doing business, i have been fair, and have gave you ample opportunity on this, now i shall file a civil suit, thank you! tiffany" Talking about true on YorkieTalk is being describe as slander her?? I do not make things up as you all see the pictures of the puppy, as well as the pictures of the hernia on the puppy. This is just ridiculous, and I wonder how she will be able to file a suit against the truth.

08-13-2009, 07:30 PM	#65
ndyorkiemom Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 336	Can I ask the name of the sire of your puppy? Just curious about something, I show my dogs but have ever only sold one as true show potenial and then the person who bought him showed him afew times and won but decided that showing was too much work and had him neutered. I also require a deposit on my puppies but if something like this situation were to come about I would gladly refund the buyers deposit unless they wanted to take a different pup. I don't know Tiffany personally so I can't and won't say anything other than I have heard stories like this before on some of her pups. As well I have heard others say that they were very pleased with the puppy they got from her. I do agree though that the puppy should never have been sent to the OP without her being told about the hernia and if in fact she had put her deposit down for a show/breeder female that is what she should have gotten and Tiffany should have given her the female that she decided to keep for herself. I am very interested in knowing who the sire is though if you wouldn't mind saying. __________________ Terri www.littletsyorkshires.com

08-14-2009, 10:34 AM	#69
Mardelin Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 14,776	Both dogs may or are very nice. That doesn't mean that the breeding meshed well together. __________________ Mardelin *Yorkshire* *Terriers*

08-17-2009, 09:49 AM	#70
AHicks99 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM USA Posts: 79	Who is Trish? You should really get him DNA tested to make sure he is sired from who she says he is. Im willing to bet he is not. She may be using a sire that has not been DNA tested. As another fact she breeds her males as many times as she can without getting them tested. Then sells them and the new owner has to get it done because of the AKC regulations.