worming puppies?

[ddj2]

I was just reading the thread where she had to worm her 2 week old pups and mom and dad. When do you usually do the first worming. My pups will be 2 weeks tomorrow. Haven't had any problems, but pups have really fat bellies. Which can be a sign of worms. Any way was just wondering when was the best time to begin the worming process. Thanks Deb

[Sugar's Mom]

Some breeders don't worm but take a stool sample in to the vet first. That being said, I worm mine the first time at six weeks. We have done it this way for forty years and have had no problems.

[Danielle718]

I was wondering this very same thing. My vet called this morning and said our tiny boy (which is only 8 days old) should be wormed today and then again in 2 weeks?? He was only 2 ounces when born, 2.4 ounces when he was 2 days old, and is now 3.3 ounces...he seems pretty small to be giving wormer to this early? I also asked that they wait until he's 2 weeks old to dock his tail...he was just too small in my opinion, the vet agreed. Let me know your thoughts on this worming thing though...I never realized anyone wormed at 8-10 days?

I've attached a picture of our little bundle of joy, too!

[thebeachyorkies]

Danielle, congrats on you new bundle. IMO the tail dock and dew claw should be done now. I have done this myself many times with one this small. ou don't want to wait as the tail segments are mineralizing and turning into bone.
I deworm everyone after weaning, I'm thinking that one mode of transmission is via breast milk, so everyone gets "cleaned up" at the same time, and no more nursing. What do you think?

Cheryl

[phfgkl]

I did a search and found this. I know I had always thought puppies were born with worms, but, then read where that was an old wives tale. So, now, wonder which is true.?
Q. Is it common for puppies to be born with worms?

A. Puppies can become infected with hookworms and roundworms while they are still in the mother's uterus. The larvae (immature forms) of the worms migrate through the mother's uterus and into the developing fetus. Puppies and kittens can also be infected with roundworms and hookworms through their mother's milk. This is why it is so important to begin a deworming program when the puppies are 2 weeks old.

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by Danielle718

I was wondering this very same thing. My vet called this morning and said our tiny boy (which is only 8 days old) should be wormed today and then again in 2 weeks?? He was only 2 ounces when born, 2.4 ounces when he was 2 days old, and is now 3.3 ounces...he seems pretty small to be giving wormer to this early? I also asked that they wait until he's 2 weeks old to dock his tail...he was just too small in my opinion, the vet agreed. Let me know your thoughts on this worming thing though...I never realized anyone wormed at 8-10 days?

I've attached a picture of our little bundle of joy, too!

Your vet would dock the tail at 2 weeks?
It needs to be done between days 3-5 and sometimes 6 because the bone calcifies and it would be very painful. If you wait, it would need to be done under anesthesia.

[thebeachyorkies]

Maybe if you suspect a two week old puppy has worms, test then treat if they have them. For my past two litters, have given the dam deworming medication when the puppies were two weeks old. She felt better afterwards.
Cheryl

[ddj2]

I just talked to my vet today and he said that I should go ahead and worm pups and mom now and then test later (@ about 6-8 wks) to see if needed to be wormed again. He uses Nemex. I wasn't sure as they are only 2wks old, but he assured me that it is safe this early. Btw all the boys have just reached 1 lb. so are exteme rolly pollies.

[FlDebra]

Mine have had 2 worming meds, the last at 6 weeks. The vet told me that it is required to get the Florida Health Certificate. I am spreading out the vaccines to be gentler on the puppies, but he had to figure out a time table for me so the vaccines would be done by 12 weeks when I want to offer them for sale, but not have to wind up having to do more. I just looked up the actual law and now I am a little confused as it says:

"If the dog is under 4 months of age, the tests, vaccines, and anthelmintics required by this section must be administered no more than 21 days before sale within the state."

Anthelmintics are the de-worming meds.

So maybe I will have to do the worming again before they leave? This all seems so silly when the parents never had worms. Seems like you ought to be able to bring in stool samples and save the puppies from all that poison.

To the OP -- since laws and circumstances do vary, I would check with your vet to see.

[littlelady]

Originally Posted by ddj2

i was just reading the thread where she had to worm her 2 week old pups and mom and dad. When do you usually do the first worming. My pups will be 2 weeks tomorrow. Haven't had any problems, but pups have really fat bellies. Which can be a sign of worms. Any way was just wondering when was the best time to begin the worming process. Thanks deb

my puppies mom stays inside so she had not been exposed to the possibility. The pups bellies get filled and when they defecate they go in it doesn't indicate worms just from having an extended belly. It may just be a satisfied puppy from its mothers milk.
I take into consideration what mom has done and been exposed to. My last litter was in dec. 2008 mom had been in the house. She had been on interceptor etc. Worming can make the pups vomit, so if a puppy is 2.7 oz or smaller for that matter not showing the proper increase in weight. Should be your determining factor when to worm a puppy. I worm my pups at 4-6 weeks of age and again in 2 weeks . For a total of two wormings.
Dew claws is a must at 2-5 days of age and again after the pups have been nursing adequately. Or i am giving nutrical etc. To give them strength to nurse before and after the procedure. I think the surgery is more stressful for the mom giving up the pups for any length of time so early in age . I was lucky my pups only had front dew claws and some of them didn't have both of them none of the ups had dew claws on all 4 paws. I averaged only 2 pups in each litter that had 3 paws with dew claws.

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

Mine have had 2 worming meds, the last at 6 weeks. The vet told me that it is required to get the Florida Health Certificate. I am spreading out the vaccines to be gentler on the puppies, but he had to figure out a time table for me so the vaccines would be done by 12 weeks when I want to offer them for sale, but not have to wind up having to do more. I just looked up the actual law and now I am a little confused as it says:

"If the dog is under 4 months of age, the tests, vaccines, and anthelmintics required by this section must be administered no more than 21 days before sale within the state."

Anthelmintics are the de-worming meds.

So maybe I will have to do the worming again before they leave? This all seems so silly when the parents never had worms. Seems like you ought to be able to bring in stool samples and save the puppies from all that poison.

To the OP -- since laws and circumstances do vary, I would check with your vet to see.

Vaccines shouldn't be completed until 16-18 weeks because of maternal antibody interference. Your pups may be unprotected if the vaccines are stopped at 12 weeks...

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Vaccines shouldn't be completed until 16-18 weeks because of maternal antibody interference. Your pups may be unprotected if the vaccines are stopped at 12 weeks...

??? I guess I was not clear, they wouldn't be stopped, but if I sell them at 12 weeks I would give the schedule to continue vaccines and boosters. SWIM? When I said they would be done, I meant the first two sets of vaccines that I want them to have before they leave here (I am just splitting them up so it takes more than 2 vet visits to get them all so as to be more gentle on the puppies' systems).

Who knows I may keep them longer. They are so cute, and I am getting way too attached! I can see it now....there is a crazy lady at the end of the road with 8 dogs and it is me! LOL! No, I am definately going to let most of them go to new homes. Of course, I will continue the next set of vaccines for the one I keep and any that do not sell right away at 12 weeks.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

??? I guess I was not clear, they wouldn't be stopped, but if I sell them at 12 weeks I would give the schedule to continue vaccines and boosters. SWIM? When I said they would be done, I meant the first two sets of vaccines that I want them to have before they leave here (I am just splitting them up so it takes more than 2 vet visits to get them all so as to be more gentle on the puppies' systems).

Who knows I may keep them longer. They are so cute, and I am getting way too attached! I can see it now....there is a crazy lady at the end of the road with 8 dogs and it is me! LOL! No, I am definately going to let most of them go to new homes. Of course, I will continue the next set of vaccines for the one I keep and any that do not sell right away at 12 weeks.

ok! Vaccination protocal per Dr. Dodd and the Schools of Vetinary Medicine

is 8, 12 and 16 weeks of age with a booster at a year and 4 months after the last shots. If you do a google search on Dr. Dodd it'll spell it out there. I know every state has a requirement for rabies. However, my vet won't adminster the rabies vaccine until 6 or 7 months and then only a 1/2 dose with the instructions that the dog needs to come back in a year for a full dose. I don't recommend vaccinating for Leptos or Corona, or Lyme Disease. Yorkies have had adverse reactions to those shots.

As far as worming, since they're on heartworm meds until they are bred, no chance for worms. But, I do have a fecal tests prior to the breeding and then she's kept in a very controlled environment. Not allowed out in the dirt or grass. When pups are born, I take a fecal in for testing....so, far so good. Just my preferance. Why put a puppy through worming if you don't have too.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

ok! Vaccination protocal per Dr. Dodd and the Schools of Vetinary Medicine

is 8, 12 and 16 weeks of age with a booster at a year and 4 months after the last shots. If you do a google search on Dr. Dodd it'll spell it out there. I know every state has a requirement for rabies. However, my vet won't adminster the rabies vaccine until 6 or 7 months and then only a 1/2 dose with the instructions that the dog needs to come back in a year for a full dose. I don't recommend vaccinating for Leptos or Corona, or Lyme Disease. Yorkies have had adverse reactions to those shots.

As far as worming, since they're on heartworm meds until they are bred, no chance for worms. But, I do have a fecal tests prior to the breeding and then she's kept in a very controlled environment. Not allowed out in the dirt or grass. When pups are born, I take a fecal in for testing....so, far so good. Just my preferance. Why put a puppy through worming if you don't have too.

Do you also consider the size of the pup when giving vaccinations? If a pup is under 1 lbs at 8 weeks do you still vaccinate at 8 weeks? I appreciate your input on this.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by bjh

Do you also consider the size of the pup when giving vaccinations? If a pup is under 1 lbs at 8 weeks do you still vaccinate at 8 weeks? I appreciate your input on this.

Never had a problem. But, then I've never had wee ones. Most of mine are 5 plus ounces when they are born and and over a pound at 8 weeks.
But, according to my breeder, because I've asked her the same question, you should work with your vet when they're that small. She's had a couple of what she calls Dinky Do Nothings that she wouldn't vaccinate until they were closer to 4 months of age. But, then those she kept until they were well over 6 months of age. You know Dr Dodd has web site and I think she has a question and answer area.