glenda beaver's pups?

[phfgkl]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

I have replied to a thread similar to this one in the past ~ I can speak to this from experience from buying a puppy from Glenda and buying from a broker, all within one year.

I found my Lola in March of last year upon the recommendation of friends. I think I was probably your typical "pet" buyer. I had no experience with Yorkie Talk, I didn't even know this sight existed...We drove for about an hour outside of Houston to look at Yorkie puppies and there was Lola - tiny and beautiful and I fell in love. After I got Lola, I found this site and have learned so much. I learned that the people that I had bought Lola from were "brokers" and I had no idea where Lola had really come from....As much as I loved Lola, it seemed like she missed having another puppy to play with, so I began to do my homework on finding a reputable breeder on Yorkie Talk. All I ever read, at that time, were wonderful praises about Glenda Beaver and her puppies. I contacted Glenda and after several lenghthy coversations with her, purchased a male from her in 8/08. We named him Harley and even bought another male for my daughter from Glenda in 11/08. All that I can tell you is that the two males we purchased from Glenda Beaver have been the most perfect, healthy little puppies I have ever been around. They are happy, well adjusted, have hearty appetites, are friendly, social, and not to mention, the most absolute beautiful little males you have ever seen.....and believe me, I do know the difference. I have just returned from flying my female, Lola, to Dr Tobias at University of Tennessee. She had a liver shunt and it was also discovered that she had luxating patella in both knees....This was the female I had bought from a broker in the Houston area, so you see, I personally do know the difference! After many thousands of dollars, liver shunt surgery and many tears later, there is NO QUESTION about the quality of Glenda Beaver' s puppies. She breeds QUALITY!

Forgive my ignorance and inexperience, like I said I am faily new at all of this Yorkie stuff. I don't profess to be a expert by any means, but isn't the main complaint with puppy mills the way that the puppys are kept during their life, their quality of life, their puppies being taken from them too young, and the transport of the puppies after they are born? Glenda certainly has above standard living areas for her dogs and is certainly not transporting them across the country in nasty, dirty, horrible trucks. She is not ripping them away from their mothers at a young age. Regarding shipping after hernia surgery, would the vet or airline have certified them fit to fly if they were not? I know I had to have a health certificate to fly Lola both to and from her surgery in Tennessee. Unless there was some conspiracy between the vet, Glenda and the airlines, I don't know how that would be possible. How someone can even compare her to puppy mills, seems uneducated and ignorant to me. It reeks of envy and jealousy for her success in breeding the dogs that she does. They are perfect little Yorkies. If you are trying to say that all breeders on Yorkie Talk or elsewhere "screen" each of their potential buyers to make sure that they are placing them in a perfect home, I just don't believe that. I think some may, but not all, and a lot of times these little puppies are bought as gifts for others...how do you screen for that. I think everyone is doing the best they can and unless there is obvious, first hand abuse(such as puppy mills) maybe, just maybe, some should reserve judgement. I know I am getting off topic, but I like the others that personally have one (or two) of Glenda's puppies, do not understand the vicious, judgemental attitude of some towards her. As I have said before, I think Glenda will survive this latest attack also...her product stands on it's own. There is a chance that if Glenda did ship to an A rated pet store that just possibly that they had a pre-screened client that they were buying for...how do we know what the circumstances were? It certainly does not sound ideal, but I can vouch that I innocently went with the best intentions to buy what I thought was the perfect Yorkie back in March of last year when I got my sick, little female....if only I had gotten one of Glenda's dog's first...how much easier this road would have been. I hesitate to even post this because I am sure that I will be met with such anger and wrath, but I do feel the need to pass on my personal experience. If someone that has had a negative PERSONAL experience with one of Glenda's dogs were to post, maybe then these posts would not seem so politically motivated...I just have never, ever seen anyone that has personally bought one of her dogs EVER post one negative thing about her or her dogs.

I just remember what my mother always reminded me ~ "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone".....

I'm really glad you had a good experience with Glenda. Some people have not though. As I stated above, if you go to search and type in Glenda Beavers, you will find many threads. You can read some of those where people weren't so lucky unfortunately. Again, I am glad you have healthy dogs

[bildio]

Originally Posted by jencar98

Then just WHO did she consign the puppies to? Is this not her name (Glenda's) on the document linked, is it not Puppy Love (the pet store) listed by name on the same document. What more proof do you need?

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/2353577-post59.html

Proof that she's a member of the YTCA.

[Lolasmom1211]

Originally Posted by phfgkl

I'm really glad you had a good experience with Glenda. Some people have not though. As I stated above, if you go to search and type in Glenda Beavers, you will find many threads. You can read some of those where people weren't so lucky unfortunately. Again, I am glad you have healthy dogs

I have gone through those threads. I have not seen one, not one from someone that personally has one of Glenda's dogs. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am not trying to cause a problem...just trying to keep the facts straight in my own mind. Thank you.

[bildio]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

I have replied to a thread similar to this one in the past ~ I can speak to this from experience from buying a puppy from Glenda and buying from a broker, all within one year.

I found my Lola in March of last year upon the recommendation of friends. I think I was probably your typical "pet" buyer. I had no experience with Yorkie Talk, I didn't even know this sight existed...We drove for about an hour outside of Houston to look at Yorkie puppies and there was Lola - tiny and beautiful and I fell in love. After I got Lola, I found this site and have learned so much. I learned that the people that I had bought Lola from were "brokers" and I had no idea where Lola had really come from....As much as I loved Lola, it seemed like she missed having another puppy to play with, so I began to do my homework on finding a reputable breeder on Yorkie Talk. All I ever read, at that time, were wonderful praises about Glenda Beaver and her puppies. I contacted Glenda and after several lenghthy coversations with her, purchased a male from her in 8/08. We named him Harley and even bought another male for my daughter from Glenda in 11/08. All that I can tell you is that the two males we purchased from Glenda Beaver have been the most perfect, healthy little puppies I have ever been around. They are happy, well adjusted, have hearty appetites, are friendly, social, and not to mention, the most absolute beautiful little males you have ever seen.....and believe me, I do know the difference. I have just returned from flying my female, Lola, to Dr Tobias at University of Tennessee. She had a liver shunt and it was also discovered that she had luxating patella in both knees....This was the female I had bought from a broker in the Houston area, so you see, I personally do know the difference! After many thousands of dollars, liver shunt surgery and many tears later, there is NO QUESTION about the quality of Glenda Beaver' s puppies. She breeds QUALITY!

Forgive my ignorance and inexperience, like I said I am faily new at all of this Yorkie stuff. I don't profess to be a expert by any means, but isn't the main complaint with puppy mills the way that the puppys are kept during their life, their quality of life, their puppies being taken from them too young, and the transport of the puppies after they are born? Glenda certainly has above standard living areas for her dogs and is certainly not transporting them across the country in nasty, dirty, horrible trucks. She is not ripping them away from their mothers at a young age. Regarding shipping after hernia surgery, would the vet or airline have certified them fit to fly if they were not? I know I had to have a health certificate to fly Lola both to and from her surgery in Tennessee. Unless there was some conspiracy between the vet, Glenda and the airlines, I don't know how that would be possible. How someone can even compare her to puppy mills, seems uneducated and ignorant to me. It reeks of envy and jealousy for her success in breeding the dogs that she does. They are perfect little Yorkies. If you are trying to say that all breeders on Yorkie Talk or elsewhere "screen" each of their potential buyers to make sure that they are placing them in a perfect home, I just don't believe that. I think some may, but not all, and a lot of times these little puppies are bought as gifts for others...how do you screen for that. I think everyone is doing the best they can and unless there is obvious, first hand abuse(such as puppy mills) maybe, just maybe, some should reserve judgement. I know I am getting off topic, but I like the others that personally have one (or two) of Glenda's puppies, do not understand the vicious, judgemental attitude of some towards her. As I have said before, I think Glenda will survive this latest attack also...her product stands on it's own. There is a chance that if Glenda did ship to an A rated pet store that just possibly that they had a pre-screened client that they were buying for...how do we know what the circumstances were? It certainly does not sound ideal, but I can vouch that I innocently went with the best intentions to buy what I thought was the perfect Yorkie back in March of last year when I got my sick, little female....if only I had gotten one of Glenda's dog's first...how much easier this road would have been. I hesitate to even post this because I am sure that I will be met with such anger and wrath, but I do feel the need to pass on my personal experience. If someone that has had a negative PERSONAL experience with one of Glenda's dogs were to post, maybe then these posts would not seem so politically motivated...I just have never, ever seen anyone that has personally bought one of her dogs EVER post one negative thing about her or her dogs.

I just remember what my mother always reminded me ~ "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone".....

Excellent input. Thanks for sharing your positive experience with Glenda.

[bildio]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

I have gone through those threads. I have not seen one, not one form someone that personally has one of Glenda's dogs. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am not trying to cause a problem...just trying to keep the facts straight in my own mind. Thank you.

I saw at least two, unless I'm losing it, & positive experiences at that. See quote in above post for one of them.

[Lolasmom1211]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

I have gone through those threads. I have not seen one, not one from someone that personally has one of Glenda's dogs. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am not trying to cause a problem...just trying to keep the facts straight in my own mind. Thank you.

I meant to say not one negative experience or comment form anyone that personally owns one of Glenda's dogs.

[phfgkl]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

I have gone through those threads. I have not seen one, not one from someone that personally has one of Glenda's dogs. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am not trying to cause a problem...just trying to keep the facts straight in my own mind. Thank you.

I remember one of those threads got started because of someone getting a sickly dog from Glenda. There are so many threads about here, that there is no way, I'm going to go all the way back through all of them, not at this time anyway. No one is saying she doesn't have beautiful dogs, she does. I think there are more of us that are just upset about the way she has done things in the past

[bildio]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

I meant to say not one negative experience or comment form anyone that personally owns one of Glenda's dogs.

Sorry. I misread your comment. I'm a victim of speed reading courses.

[jp4m2]

Is this the store that belongs to Glenda's friends where those pups where shipped from (or to??), Puppy Love in Danbury?....I must say I found it disturbing that they make these claims on their site, who ever it is. It seems like a lot of pups changing hands.....

Puppy Love

"huge supply of puppies"
" we generally have between 70 -80 pups at any given time"....
"puppies arrive just after they turn eight weeks old"......
"we generally sell between 65 - 110 puppies per month (and many more over the holidays)."

[phfgkl]

Here is one of the threads, and when my head quits hurting, I'll look for more
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...tsa-la-gi.html

[phfgkl]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

Is this the store that belongs to Glenda's friends where those pups where shipped from (or to??), Puppy Love in Danbury?....I must say I found it disturbing that they make these claims on their site, who ever it is. It seems like a lot of pups changing hands.....

Puppy Love

"huge supply of puppies"
" we generally have between 70 -80 pups at any given time"....
"puppies arrive just after they turn eight weeks old"......
"we generally sell between 65 - 110 puppies per month (and many more over the holidays)."

I do believe that's the puppy store

[bildio]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

Is this the store that belongs to Glenda's friends where those pups where shipped from (or to??), Puppy Love in Danbury?....I must say I found it disturbing that they make these claims on their site, who ever it is. It seems like a lot of pups changing hands.....

Puppy Love

"huge supply of puppies"
" we generally have between 70 -80 pups at any given time"....
"puppies arrive just after they turn eight weeks old"......
"we generally sell between 65 - 110 puppies per month (and many more over the holidays)."

Apparently they do well according to the BBB A+ rating.

I'm not saying that puppy mills or pet stores that buy from puppy mills, etc., are good.

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by bildio

Proof that she's a member of the YTCA.

You are the ONE that first posted the YTCA code of ethics regarding consigning dogs to a pet store. I am the one that posted I didn't believe she was a YTCA member but nevertheless GB did consign to a pet store. Then YOU came back and posted the following:

She, however, didn't consign to the pet store.

To which I answered with the link showing a document where GB DID consign to a pet store. I was asking what more proof did you need to know that she DID consign to a pet store?

Remember I am not the one that brought the YTCA into this - YOU are! IF GB is a YTCA member she has violated their code of ethics. I said if she is not a YTCA member, that may be for a good reason - possibly she can not abide by their standards/code of ethics???

[phfgkl]

Originally Posted by bildio

Apparently they do well according to the BBB A+ rating.

I'm not saying that puppy mills or pet stores that buy from puppy mills, etc., are good.

Sure they're going to do well, because there are so many people that are uneducated about buying from pet stores. I would love to see all pet stores that sell dogs shut down!

[bildio]

Originally Posted by phfgkl

Here is one of the threads, and when my head quits hurting, I'll look for more
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...tsa-la-gi.html

This was not a negative. The OP thought she got the wrong pup, but didn't.