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linda44 · 01-16-2009, 03:07 PM

I think your best bet is small claims court also, and report her to BB, and again to AKC in writing with copies of all your paperwork. At least if you are not compensated for not having the AKC papers you have put the word out against this woman in different ways to hopefully not let it happen to someone else. Good luck, I wish you the best, I hate dishonesty.

tammy8833 · 01-16-2009, 06:58 PM

i recongize some of the adults from puppyfind.com
and i see she has stated she is having "problems with paypal"...hmmmm...i wonder why

katelin · 01-16-2009, 08:31 PM

Nikki, I'm sorry you have had this experience. I have two puppies from Lorene. (Unrelated and bought at different times). It was a couple years ago, and we did not have any problems. The dogs were just as described and the papers came right away.

However, I do know that she suffers from fibromyalgia (I think that is correct), and in recent years she had a lot of trouble keeping up with her dogs. I think she has been down-sizing as a result.

I like Lorene and she was very helpful to me. I have a beautiful little girl out of one of her puppies. So, I'm sorry that you are having so much trouble. It may be that she is tending to her health instead of business right now. I hope it can all be straightened out.

EmrldShdwQueen · 01-16-2009, 09:08 PM

Hi everyone, thanks for the suggestions and PMs, it's all really helpful information. I think it's too late for paypal but I will try emailing them. I doubt it though.

I know I am so stupid about this kind of thing, so I apologize, but I've never been in a situation like this. If I took her to small claims court would I need to have a lawyer? How would I go about this process? I'm sorry for being so ignorant. I realize I screwed up by not having a very specific contract with her in the beginning, but I do have all the emails that we sent to each other in a file, and I have her stating several times that she will send the papers, etc. I also have the bank statements where I paid her. I have the paypal receipt for the deposit and the extra cost on shipping as well.

Like someone else said, I know I may not be able to remedy this for MYSELF at this point, but at least maybe I can keep someone else from ending up in the same situation. She did tell me about her health, but I was promised these papers with the purchase of the dog and didn't get them, and now it's been way too long with no response. I feel that I am definitely being ignored and cheated, and I don't think that's something that should be let go unresolved.

EmrldShdwQueen · 01-16-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by katelin

Nikki, I'm sorry you have had this experience. I have two puppies from Lorene. (Unrelated and bought at different times). It was a couple years ago, and we did not have any problems. The dogs were just as described and the papers came right away.

However, I do know that she suffers from fibromyalgia (I think that is correct), and in recent years she had a lot of trouble keeping up with her dogs. I think she has been down-sizing as a result.

I like Lorene and she was very helpful to me. I have a beautiful little girl out of one of her puppies. So, I'm sorry that you are having so much trouble. It may be that she is tending to her health instead of business right now. I hope it can all be straightened out.

Hey Katelin, how are all your babies doing? It sounds like you got lucky dealing with her. She was always very NICE to me when I spoke with her, but now she is ignoring me, and I know she's there because she continues to update her puppyfind ads. She has also been very dishonest with me. I don't know if this is something has developed recently or if you were just one of the lucky ones. I just feel that this was unfair to me...

I'm glad you got your baby and everything went well!

katelin · 01-17-2009, 08:26 AM

All our little guys are doing great. Again, so sorry that this has happened to you.

LuvMyPrinceKobi · 01-17-2009, 08:57 AM

I have no advice as far as how to get your money or her papers, but my goodness, there are more red flags here than I've maybe ever seen before!

The headline of her website is "yorkie puppies for sale, tinys, teacup, akc yorkie breeder"

EmrldShdwQueen · 01-17-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvMyPrinceKobi

I have no advice as far as how to get your money or her papers, but my goodness, there are more red flags here than I've maybe ever seen before!

The headline of her website is "yorkie puppies for sale, tinys, teacup, akc yorkie breeder"

Where is that? I don't remember seeing anything about teacup. When I got the girl she had maybe 4 puppies and 8 adults for sale and said she was going out of business.

I know it was stupid, probably the most stupid mistake I ever made.

Woogie Man · 01-17-2009, 11:44 AM

I just checked her site and didn't see anything about teacups, etc.. I bought my little Nemo from her a couple of years ago and he was exactly as advertised and I got the papers from her within a week. Sorry this is happening to you but maybe she is having health problems, as posted earlier. That being said, there's really no excuse for her mis-representing a dog to you. From what you've posted, it seems odd that AKC wouldn't be more helpful to you. When I bought Nemo, I copied and saved the web page before she updated it so I had further proof of how he was advertised, just in case. Best of luck to you in resolving this. I know nothing will change one thing about the dog you purchased, but maybe a little persistence will at least get you the papers and a partial refund. I do know that she charges more for full registration so at least she should take that off since you are unable to breed her.

MindieRose · 01-17-2009, 05:20 PM

You don't need a lawyer for small claims, in fact, I don't think you are supposed to have one for it. All of your receipts and any emails from her should be enough. Small claims isn't like a murder trial, so you don't need dna proof that she screwed you over.
I don't understand the concern over AKC papers if you aren't breeding. Honestly I would be more upset that you didn't get the dog you were shown and told you were going to get. What would you need papers for at this point? If it's just the principal of it all, I would still go on it being a different dog, since that to me seems to be the most deceiving part of the purchase. If it were the right dog, and you were breeding, I would be concerned over registration papers.

LuvMyPrinceKobi · 01-18-2009, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EmrldShdwQueen

Where is that? I don't remember seeing anything about teacup. When I got the girl she had maybe 4 puppies and 8 adults for sale and said she was going out of business.

I know it was stupid, probably the most stupid mistake I ever made.

Everybody makes mistakes. Don't beat yourself up!

I now see that I think she has two web sites...how curious

This is the one I saw : yorkie puppies for sale, tinys, teacup, akc yorkie breeder

That is her, right? E-mail addy has lorane in it?

Ashley V · 01-18-2009, 05:37 AM

I would get your lawyer to draw up a letter just enough to scare her. If she doesn't budge then I would continue with small claims court.

01-16-2009, 06:58 PM	#17
tammy8833 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,775	i recongize some of the adults from puppyfind.com and i see she has stated she is having "problems with paypal"...hmmmm...i wonder why __________________ Tammy YT Gallery Lil Girl Princess & Theodore *Gidget R.I.P**

01-16-2009, 08:31 PM	#18
katelin YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,778	Nikki, I'm sorry you have had this experience. I have two puppies from Lorene. (Unrelated and bought at different times). It was a couple years ago, and we did not have any problems. The dogs were just as described and the papers came right away. However, I do know that she suffers from fibromyalgia (I think that is correct), and in recent years she had a lot of trouble keeping up with her dogs. I think she has been down-sizing as a result. I like Lorene and she was very helpful to me. I have a beautiful little girl out of one of her puppies. So, I'm sorry that you are having so much trouble. It may be that she is tending to her health instead of business right now. I hope it can all be straightened out. __________________ *LaVail Yorkshire Terriers*

01-17-2009, 08:26 AM	#21
katelin YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,778	All our little guys are doing great. Again, so sorry that this has happened to you. __________________ *LaVail Yorkshire Terriers*

01-17-2009, 08:57 AM	#22
LuvMyPrinceKobi & Reicher Baby, too! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,675	I have no advice as far as how to get your money or her papers, but my goodness, there are more red flags here than I've maybe ever seen before! The headline of her website is "yorkie puppies for sale, tinys, teacup, akc yorkie breeder" __________________ Teri, Reicher , Kobi , Killian

01-17-2009, 05:20 PM	#25
MindieRose Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,280	You don't need a lawyer for small claims, in fact, I don't think you are supposed to have one for it. All of your receipts and any emails from her should be enough. Small claims isn't like a murder trial, so you don't need dna proof that she screwed you over. I don't understand the concern over AKC papers if you aren't breeding. Honestly I would be more upset that you didn't get the dog you were shown and told you were going to get. What would you need papers for at this point? If it's just the principal of it all, I would still go on it being a different dog, since that to me seems to be the most deceiving part of the purchase. If it were the right dog, and you were breeding, I would be concerned over registration papers. __________________ Proud Mommy of Gavin, Ethan, Morgan, Nia, Olivia, and Kiana and baby #7! Also Mommy to furkids: Cleo ,Lola, Lilly Appletini, and Diesel. and Sunny, Ethan's Golden therapy dog in training.

01-16-2009, 03:07 PM	#16
linda44 Luv my 7 Furkids Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: napa Posts: 9,655 Blog Entries: 4	I think your best bet is small claims court also, and report her to BB, and again to AKC in writing with copies of all your paperwork. At least if you are not compensated for not having the AKC papers you have put the word out against this woman in different ways to hopefully not let it happen to someone else. Good luck, I wish you the best, I hate dishonesty.

01-16-2009, 09:08 PM	#19
EmrldShdwQueen No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,987	Hi everyone, thanks for the suggestions and PMs, it's all really helpful information. I think it's too late for paypal but I will try emailing them. I doubt it though. I know I am so stupid about this kind of thing, so I apologize, but I've never been in a situation like this. If I took her to small claims court would I need to have a lawyer? How would I go about this process? I'm sorry for being so ignorant. I realize I screwed up by not having a very specific contract with her in the beginning, but I do have all the emails that we sent to each other in a file, and I have her stating several times that she will send the papers, etc. I also have the bank statements where I paid her. I have the paypal receipt for the deposit and the extra cost on shipping as well. Like someone else said, I know I may not be able to remedy this for MYSELF at this point, but at least maybe I can keep someone else from ending up in the same situation. She did tell me about her health, but I was promised these papers with the purchase of the dog and didn't get them, and now it's been way too long with no response. I feel that I am definitely being ignored and cheated, and I don't think that's something that should be let go unresolved.

01-17-2009, 11:44 AM	#24
Woogie Man Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,564	I just checked her site and didn't see anything about teacups, etc.. I bought my little Nemo from her a couple of years ago and he was exactly as advertised and I got the papers from her within a week. Sorry this is happening to you but maybe she is having health problems, as posted earlier. That being said, there's really no excuse for her mis-representing a dog to you. From what you've posted, it seems odd that AKC wouldn't be more helpful to you. When I bought Nemo, I copied and saved the web page before she updated it so I had further proof of how he was advertised, just in case. Best of luck to you in resolving this. I know nothing will change one thing about the dog you purchased, but maybe a little persistence will at least get you the papers and a partial refund. I do know that she charges more for full registration so at least she should take that off since you are unable to breed her.

01-18-2009, 05:37 AM	#27
Ashley V ♥ Chip ♥ Smokey ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Leesburg Posts: 3,835	I would get your lawyer to draw up a letter just enough to scare her. If she doesn't budge then I would continue with small claims court. __________________ ~~ Chip ~~ Smokey ~*~ My heart is wrapped around their little paws Karley Marissa born 1/20/12 weighing 8 lbs 11 oz and 21.5 inches long