Has anyone heard of Karen's Yorkies?

[jitterbug]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I don't agree, I do home visits prior to placing a pup and offer free grooming and boarding for the rest of the pups. My dogs are always placed in close proximity to my home.

I've never had an objection when I ask if I can do a home visit. There are key questions a breeder can ask toget a feel for their families. I've changed my mind at the last minute, when they've come to pick up their puppy and didn't gush. You got love my pups 100% or you don't get them.

Humane society's do home visits also and alot of dogs get put to sleep over it. I would not let any stranger come to my house for a dog visit period. I don't like people coming over to my house.

[jitterbug]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Hmmm...you bring up a good point. It does seem to be a pretty frequent occurrence for brand new members to show up just to bash or praise a breeder in the extreme sense and generally, I don't think many members give a lot of consideration to those kinds of posts. Of course, being as you yourself are a new member, having only posted in this one thread, that same logic would apply to you as well.... Actually, I see that the other poster has actually been a member longer than you have...so I guess that would make you the "newbie" in this scenario...

Just sayin'...

I have been reading this site for a long time. There really are alot of people on here who make yorkie owner's look bad. Some of you need to get over yourselves. This is not the first I have seen people on here jumping on other people. I am not worried about it. I love my yorkies as much as any of you, if not more. It doesn't change the fact that I would not have a breeder come to "my" house. Get a life this is the last time I will even read this post. It is useless. It was wrongfully posted against someone anyways and this whole thread should have been deleted a long time ago!

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by jitterbug

I believe that if someone is not happy with their dog that yes they should give it back to the breeder, but that is their right. Honestly that is the chance you take breeding dogs anyways. The chance they might not get the best home. You can have what you want in the contract but I am sure you will not be able to tell on most pups you sell. Seriously expecially when you ship them out,

You are wrong agin. All my puppies except five have been sold right here on Yt and all 22 of them are growing up on this board. i take no chances on anything. i get to know my families very well from the time they fill out their applications until the time the puppy is in their possession. obviously you want to attack me and you don't know me very well at all or you would see how very silly you are making yourself appear to be attacking me for my breeding practices in front of people on here that have known me or known of me for several years..

[Sugar's Mom]

[QUOTE=jitterbug;2781284]Humane society's do home visits also and alot of dogs get put to sleep over it. I would not let any stranger come to my house for a dog visit period. I don't like people coming over to my house.[/QUOTE] do you exppect the breeder to welcome you, a stranger, into her home without knowing anything about you.

[jitterbug]

I don't worry about going to their house if I trust the breeder period

[jitterbug]

First off I was not attacking you. That is silly to say. If you want to go to people's houses that is fine! My opinion I would not let a breeder come to my house.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by jitterbug

Humane society's do home visits also and alot of dogs get put to sleep over it. I would not let any stranger come to my house for a dog visit period. I don't like people coming over to my house.

Then you (and I mean you in generally speaking) wouldn't get a dog from me. What people don't understand the pups are mine and I decide where they go to. If people have a problem with my rules, contracts, etc., they can go elsewhere, bottom line the pups still belong to me.

It's the first question out of my mouth when a potential new family contacts. If their answer is no, conversation is ended

You don't like people coming to your house, however, most potential new buyers come to my house. It's a two way street and for the good of the puppy...Then I do have a relationship with all my families, I go to their homes and them come to mine.....on a social basis.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by jitterbug

Humane society's do home visits also and alot of dogs get put to sleep over it. I would not let any stranger come to my house for a dog visit period. I don't like people coming over to my house.

Hmmm..where did you hear this? It is a fact that pounds etc don't do home visits and they know that 50% of the dogs will come back but they do not have the staff to do home checks etc and they believe at least 50% of the dogs found a home.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by jitterbug

I have been reading this site for a long time. There really are alot of people on here who make yorkie owner's look bad. Some of you need to get over yourselves. This is not the first I have seen people on here jumping on other people. I am not worried about it. I love my yorkies as much as any of you, if not more. It doesn't change the fact that I would not have a breeder come to "my" house. Get a life this is the last time I will even read this post. It is useless. It was wrongfully posted against someone anyways and this whole thread should have been deleted a long time ago!

Really, why has it taken you so long to post and when you do it is just on this one thread. It doesn't appear that you are afraid to say what is on why mind...so were you on here with another name?

[yorks12]

Originally Posted by karens yorkies

I try very hard to get the best homes possible for my dogs but sometimes someone will slip though that you wish you had not sold to, which is the case here. I only hope she will take good care of the sweet little dog.

I have met Karen two times - the first time when my mom bought a dog from her and the second time when I bought a dog from her. I would agree that she does try to make sure the dog fits with the family. I have two kids and the first thing Karen did was suggest that I get one of her bigger pups. I will also mention that when my mom was trying to determine what size of dog she wanted (4lb or 6lb) we asked Karen to bring a few of her adult dogs of various sizes for us to look at. She did - and they seemed very well cared for. We stayed for almost 2 hours. The dogs did very well around people and loved being held by Karen. I would definitely recommend Karen.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by yorks12

I will also mention that when my mom was trying to determine what size of dog she wanted (4lb or 6lb) we asked Karen to bring a few of her adult dogs of various sizes for us to look at. She did - and they seemed very well cared for. We stayed for almost 2 hours. The dogs did very well around people and loved being held by Karen. I would definitely recommend Karen.

I am confused by your comment "we asked Karen to bring a few" ? bring where? werent' you at her house? where did she bring them from?

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

I am confused by your comment "we asked Karen to bring a few" ? bring where? werent' you at her house? where did she bring them from?

Good point. I can only speak for myself, but I don't think I could recommend and sing praises of a breeder if I'd never been to their house. If I'm going to recommend a breeder, then I would first want to at the very least, see the conditions that the dogs are kept in and the condition that ALL dogs are in at ALL times...not just the select few that I was shown.

[PamBellaJagShy]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Then you (and I mean you in generally speaking) wouldn't get a dog from me. What people don't understand the pups are mine and I decide where they go to. If people have a problem with my rules, contracts, etc., they can go elsewhere, bottom line the pups still belong to me.

It's the first question out of my mouth when a potential new family contacts. If their answer is no, conversation is ended

You don't like people coming to your house, however, most potential new buyers come to my house. It's a two way street and for the good of the puppy...Then I do have a relationship with all my families, I go to their homes and them come to mine.....on a social basis.

I agree 100%, I hope to buy a female to show from a breeder in Canada next month. I am flying to Quebec on Oct 13th to meet her and I'm staying in Quebec for three days. I am also going to her HOUSE to spend the day in order to see her dogs and for the breeder to meet me. This will give us both a chance to meet and get to know each other. She also wants to teach me some things about growing coats and showing. After all, I am getting a dog with her name on it so I'm sure she wants to know how dedicated I am to the process. I also told her during our initial conversations that she was welcome to come to my home anytime she wanted to see my babies and their home. Neither of us have anything to to hide....so why would we care. It just makes since...........

[star28c]

Originally Posted by ndyorkiemom

Wow!
1. 30 females and 10 males?
2. 48 hours to have a puppy examined (by two different vets if a problem arises)?
3. Her contract counterdics itself about the length of her guarantee?
4. The fact that the only necropsy results she will accept are those from Tx Med.Diag. Labs in my eyes is just a cover up so that the pup won't have to be replaced.

Now heres my reasons for these comments, please keep in mind these are just my opinions

1. That is a lot of Yorkies, I have 9 and of those only three are breeder females. I have three males, one is neutered and a pet, one is a pet and my main stud (also my service dog who alerts me to Sycopy attacks) and the third is my future hopeful for a stud and a pet.
With 40 adults how does this breeder give each dog the individual attention that they need on a daily basis to be well adjusted dogs. Now add the puppies, even at just two puppies per litter and only breeding 10 of her females once a year thats another twenty Yorkies. Don't get me wrong I love Yorkies as much as the next person but hey, there is NO WAY on earth that you or anyone for that matter can give 60 dogs individual attention on a daily basis and still get everything done that is needed to run a smooth, clean and healthy program. And thats figuring giving each dog just 20 minutes of attention a day. That comes out to twenty hours aday just for attention, when would you find time for cleaning and feeding not to mention grooming and health care needs.
In my own mind on this alone I would have to wonder, is the puppy well socialized?

2. This is not enough time in my eyes, I give my adopters four business days from the time they pick their puppy up. And why would the adopter have to have the puppy checked by two different vets within 48 hours? If the puppy was healthy when he/she left the breeder than one vet check up should be good. It sounds to me like this breeder is just trying to set it up so that the buyer won't have much of a chance if the puppy should become ill and need to be replaced.

3. How long is her guarantee really for and what does it truely cover? Having two different lengths of one contract could possibly make it hard for the adopter to come back on a contract. Depending on the health condition the breeder could say that one condition was only covered for six months while some other health issue is covered for 12 months. Here I am going to say "buyer beware". This could just be an over site on the breeders part, but if it is brought to the breeders attention and then isn't corrected you can bet that something isn't right.

4. What happens if the adopter is from out of state or even from somewhere like Canada? How do they get this survice done at this facility? I understand wanting a necropsy done as I have that in my contract as well, but I also realize that certain conditions call for special circumstances. As long as the place doing the necropsy is reputable and in good standing with the AMVA I will accept their reports. Once I recieve them I send them to my personal vet to have them gone over with me so I fully understand them.
In demanding that all necropsies are done at the Tx. Medical Diag. Labs this breeder AGAIN is covering any chance of having to stand behind her contract.
I don't know many people who can make arrangement to send a dogs body to Tx. if they live in say Idaho or Canada. That would end up getting alittle pricey to say the least. You would have to have your vet package the body for shipping and then special shipping arrangements would have to be made with the airline. This is just another reason that I would again say "buyer beware"

These are just the ramblings and opinions of me... a very small Yorkie breeder nothing more nothing less.

this sounds like she might be part of a broker scam im serious i just got suck in this type of situation buying my puppy and the life warranty was the same 48 hr too the vet or lose your life time warranty such crock of poop.. anyways to spite their horrbile company thank god my dogs doing ok and growing healthy

[BaxtersMommy]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Then you (and I mean you in generally speaking) wouldn't get a dog from me. What people don't understand the pups are mine and I decide where they go to. If people have a problem with my rules, contracts, etc., they can go elsewhere, bottom line the pups still belong to me.

It's the first question out of my mouth when a potential new family contacts. If their answer is no, conversation is ended

You don't like people coming to your house, however, most potential new buyers come to my house. It's a two way street and for the good of the puppy...Then I do have a relationship with all my families, I go to their homes and them come to mine.....on a social basis.