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Old 08-31-2009, 07:37 AM   #46
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[QUOTE=BamaFan121s;2780630]A written agreement stating giving the you the right to first refusal would have solved the problem of her reselling the dog.

She didn't try to resell the dog did she?
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:48 AM   #47
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She didn't try to resell the dog did she?
I don't have any idea. I was responding to the most recent comment from this breeder--the possibility of the new owner reselling the dog was a specific concern which the breeder stated as being the reason why she didn't give her the AKC papers. Thus why I stated what I did.
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I really like the site. There is alot of helpful info on here. I didnt like the slander but that is not from real member's here. I noticed you replied Karen. I wouldn't even bother replying to this anymore. Most of us know how good you take of your dogs. These other people don't mean anythiing. They have like two posts and that is it. Funny they try to come here to run your name in the dirt. I think all of us are more intellegent than listening to a newbie bad mouth you. Keep up the good work and hold your head high. Thanks for my precious babies! I love them so much!
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I would NEVER buy a puppy that had it in the contract you could take the puppy back. That is wrong to do as a breeder. When we as customers spend $1500-3500 for a dog, you can rest assure the dog will be treated as gold. Noone in their right mind would pay that much to abuse a dog. Breeder's who have that clause are a little stuck up to me. Just stating I would not buy a dog from someone who had that in the contract. Seems unfair. Especially if you did not know the breeder.
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I would NEVER buy a puppy that had it in the contract you could take the puppy back. That is wrong to do as a breeder. When we as customers spend $1500-3500 for a dog, you can rest assure the dog will be treated as gold. Noone in their right mind would pay that much to abuse a dog. Breeder's who have that clause are a little stuck up to me. Just stating I would not buy a dog from someone who had that in the contract. Seems unfair. Especially if you did not know the breeder.
then many breeders would not sell you a dog either. obviousuly you didn;'t see the pictures of my two precious girls I rehomed about a year ago. The condition they were in when I got them back. it would have broken your heart. no we are not stuck up. it just proves that we care for our pups mre than we care for your money and don't think for a minute that just because people pay a lot for a dog they won't abuse it. if you do then you are seriously deluding yourself. My last thoughts on the matter. i do realize, however, that not everyone is as particular as mary and I about where our dogs go. breeders that don't hae a way to get the dogs back in the case of mistreatment are only after your money and don't caare what you do with the dog once you are out of the driveway.
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then many breeders would not sell you a dog either. obviousuly you didn;'t see the pictures of my two precious girls I rehomed about a year ago. The condition they were in when I got them back. it would have broken your heart. no we are not stuck up. it just proves that we care for our pups mre than we care for your money and don't think for a minute that just because people pay a lot for a dog they won't abuse it. if you do then you are seriously deluding yourself. My last thoughts on the matter. i do realize, however, that not everyone is as particular as mary and I about where our dogs go. breeders that don't hae a way to get the dogs back in the case of mistreatment are only after your money and don't caare what you do with the dog once you are out of the driveway.
Honestly I think its great that breeders have this right, and this clause should not disturb anyone unless they fear they will neglect and or abuse thier dog... I wish all breeders would do this, perhaps that would limit the amount of neglected and abused dogs in the pounds.. It really shows its not about the money!!! I think its GREAT you both do this and I am very happy that you have been able to save pups from a life you felt they didnt deserve

The breeder I got Laci from never answered the phone, took my money " cash" and that was it... I wish I had someone to call if something went wrong or advise on shot... she could care less about me , Laci's vets, her shots, her sickness, her ear infections... nothing.. cant even get advise on food..
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When we as customers spend $1500-3500 for a dog, you can rest assure the dog will be treated as gold. Noone in their right mind would pay that much to abuse a dog. Breeder's who have that clause are a little stuck up to me. Just stating I would not buy a dog from someone who had that in the contract. Seems unfair. Especially if you did not know the breeder.
Well this is where you are completely wrong....ask anyone that is in rescue or has done rescue we have all received dogs that cost a pretty penny and were abused. Some physically and some mentally. Paying $3500 means nothing if you have the $$$ and I believe breeding a dog over and over and over again is abuse but some breeders do this to recoup their investment.

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then many breeders would not sell you a dog either. obviousuly you didn;'t see the pictures of my two precious girls I rehomed about a year ago. The condition they were in when I got them back. it would have broken your heart. no we are not stuck up. it just proves that we care for our pups mre than we care for your money and don't think for a minute that just because people pay a lot for a dog they won't abuse it. if you do then you are seriously deluding yourself. My last thoughts on the matter. i do realize, however, that not everyone is as particular as mary and I about where our dogs go. breeders that don't hae a way to get the dogs back in the case of mistreatment are only after your money and don't caare what you do with the dog once you are out of the driveway.
Curious: What was wrong with them? How did you get them back?
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Well this is where you are completely wrong....ask anyone that is in rescue or has done rescue we have all received dogs that cost a pretty penny and were abused. Some physically and some mentally. Paying $3500 means nothing if you have the $$$ and I believe breeding a dog over and over and over again is abuse but some breeders do this to recoup their investment.

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Absolutely, I've seen people from the very rich buy, a dog because it went with their decor and rehome it or take it the shelter because they were redecorating and it no longer went with their decor.....
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I believe that if someone is not happy with their dog that yes they should give it back to the breeder, but that is their right. Honestly that is the chance you take breeding dogs anyways. The chance they might not get the best home. You can have what you want in the contract but I am sure you will not be able to tell on most pups you sell. Seriously expecially when you ship them out,
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I believe that if someone is not happy with their dog that yes they should give it back to the breeder, but that is their right. Honestly that is the chance you take breeding dogs anyways. The chance they might not get the best home. You can have what you want in the contract but I am sure you will not be able to tell on most pups you sell. Seriously expecially when you ship them out,
I don't agree, I do home visits prior to placing a pup and offer free grooming and boarding for the rest of the pups. My dogs are always placed in close proximity to my home.

I've never had an objection when I ask if I can do a home visit. There are key questions a breeder can ask toget a feel for their families. I've changed my mind at the last minute, when they've come to pick up their puppy and didn't gush. You got love my pups 100% or you don't get them.
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I would love to see the vet's invoice from bubbaboo. I have a hard time believing she made that up and if it is true then Karen's Yorkies should have done something to make it right....it's kind of bothering me
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Most of us know how good you take of your dogs. These other people don't mean anythiing. They have like two posts and that is it. Funny they try to come here to run your name in the dirt. I think all of us are more intellegent than listening to a newbie bad mouth you.
Hmmm...you bring up a good point. It does seem to be a pretty frequent occurrence for brand new members to show up just to bash or praise a breeder in the extreme sense and generally, I don't think many members give a lot of consideration to those kinds of posts. Of course, being as you yourself are a new member, having only posted in this one thread, that same logic would apply to you as well.... Actually, I see that the other poster has actually been a member longer than you have...so I guess that would make you the "newbie" in this scenario...

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pm me your email addy and I will send you pictures. I will not post them again. but it will be tomorrow. i am turning the computer off right now for the night so i can tuck all my fur babies in. But i do want to say on the puppy I got back at the same time, I refunded the money.
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