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Old 07-16-2008, 06:00 AM   #1
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Doo Doo's litter is now 13 days old. They haven't open their eyes yet. I mentioned before on another thread that she started taking her pups out of the whelping box. Someone told me she must not be happy where they are at, so I took the whelping box out of the bathroom and but her wire crate in there, that's where she normally sleeps. Well everything was well for a few nights, the pups all seems happy to be in the crate with mom. The crate is always open for her to come in and out as she pleases, only at night time she goes out for her last walk then to sleep and I close the crate. Last night I put her in her crate with the pups and went to bed. She started crying and scratching at the crate, I let her do it for about an hour hoping she would just go to sleep, but I gave in and let her out. She never sleeps out of her crate and last night was the first time. I have a baby gate at the bathroom door, because like I mentioned before she was taking her pups out of the whelping box. Well last night she jumped the gate (as always) then I heard one of the pups crying really close to me, so I got up to check, she took her pup out of the crate and jumped the baby gate with him and put him in bed with my daughter and there they were just laying in bed. I put the pup back in the crate and Doo Doo slept the rest of the night under my bed. This morning I took the baby gate off, as I don't want her jumping it with the pups in her mouth. So she got another pups and put him back in my daughters bed. I'm sorry this so long, please anyone ever have this happened? Any advice or some light on what she's doing. Oh and hubby already told me this morning, if she's not going to sleep with her pups, then they need to go back into their whelping box and she needs to go back into her crate at night. I don't know what to do.HelpLOL
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:29 AM   #2
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My oldest fm retired now refused to have her pups anywhere but in my closet, no matter how I tried to make her stay somewhere else she would not, may be you should try the welping box in your daughters room nd leave it for now so she can get in and out on her own, is this her first litter? if so she is longing for you to help her and comfort her, How old are the pups? If they are under 2wks they need a heating pad under them if this is their than mom may be getting to hot put the pad on low and cover it with a blanet/towel I use pillow shams old ones of corse, work with her inthe day time , petting her while she is in with her babies , tell her what a good mommy she is being this will help her feel more sure of herself. I don't know much elese to say but to a point like it or not you are going to have to let her have her way, the more ou stress her out, the less she will want to have anything to do with the puppies, This means as well lack of sleep for you sweetie, sorry but you will need to get up every 3 hrs to check on the puppies and Mom or you could lose the pups just keep putting her with her babies and telling her what a good Mom she is, She should calm down in the next 2-3 days, I hope I helped, Maybe someone here has a better Idea but that all I know to tell you, goood luck, I have went as far asto sleep on the sofa with the pups next to me in their bed of couse and let mom sllep with me and get up evey 3-4 hrs and check on her make go feed them and praise her for that you won't have to stay on the sofa but about 3-4 days, It is tough being a breeder but you gotta do whatever it takes hope I helped, Denise
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Denise, Thank you for the good pointers. The puppies will be 2 weeks tommorow. I don't have a heating pad bacause since the dad is a cocker spaniel the pups are not so tiny like a full yorkie. The mom was doing great till last night, I couldn't believe she jumped the gate with baby in her mouth. My daughter shares a room with us, she has a toddler bed on the other side of our bedroom. I really don't think there's enough room for me to put her whelping box in there. I don't know what I'm going to do.
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I wish i could be of more help, I am so sorry she is acting this way, thats all I know, so maybe today someone elese can help, Good luck but she is not a bad mom at all I don't think just wants to be with her family. good luck and best wishes Denise ps pm some pics of the pups if you get a chance would love to see them
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:19 AM   #5
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Could you not have her whelping box in the room where you are?
She obviously wants to be with the people she loves, being her first litter she is confused & probably feeling a bit overwhelmed. The novelty of having puppies has probably worn off a bit now too & she wants to be back with her family.
As Denise has said, the puppies are too young to be left by themselves yet without being checked regularly & you'll have to help her. The main thing is to keep them warm. They can go downhill so fast if they get chilled.

Some bitches are just not that great at being the sort of mum you think they should be.
One of mine did this so often that I thought I'd got wise to her, till one day the puppies had completely vanished & she was following me about looking so pleased! I nearly ripped the house apart looking for them, till I eventually heard one squeaking & tracked down the noise to where she'd stashed them amongst a pile of boxes under the bed in a spare room we hardly use.

Try not to let her carry them too much if she's in this funny mood. they can get very intense about it. Another of mine, in her determination to carry them where she wanted, ended up killing all four of hers by picking them up by the head & crushing them.

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Thanks, you have been alot of help, I'm on my way out the door to work. I'll be back in 3-4 hours. I'll send you some pics when I get home.
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I don't have enough room in my bedroom for her whelping box. She carries them from their back legs, just now I logged off cause she took 2 of them and stashed them in my daughters blankets. I have to go to work but I'm not sure if I should put her in the crate with them.
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OMG ,I'ms o sorry you are going through this. It seems every few days something else changes with the mom and pups.Iwish there was a way to have her sleep closer to you guys.
Our Lola has now started to NOT want to be in the Xpen anymore so the Xpen is now open and she is free to roam our masterbathroom.Im so scared because my hubby gets ready for work at 5 am and I get scared thinking he might walk in and step on the puppy if Lola moved him out of the box. Sowe now leave the dim bathroom light on 24hrs a day so we cansee when we step over the puppygate into the bathroom floor.She now takes breaks away from her baby and sits next to the whelping box to groom herself.She's still shows concern for her baby but leaves him for a few minutes now to eat and potty. Before she HAD to eat in the whelping box or she refused all food. So I'm feeling that pretty soon she's not going to want to be with him either.
I'll check for updates on why she may be doing this. I'm curious to know myself in case Lola does the same.


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yes I would while you areat work, safer for the babies, shewill be ok good luck
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Last night I took her out for her last walk. Then we came home, she walked right into her crate and layed down with the pups. I closed the crate and said Good Night. All was well last night, not a single noise. This morning she went out for her walk, came home went under the bed. Then I notice she was in my daughters bed. I went to check, she has 2 of the pups in bed with my daughter. My daughter was sleeping, so I didn't move them, I just kept my eye on them to make sure non were hurt. Later I moved them back to the crate. Oh and 2 of the girls opened there eyes this morning. I'll see if I can post pictures.
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I am so glad you had one good night, I do hope she learns to keep those babies in the crate for you, and I can't wait to see the pics, Take care talk to you soon, Denise
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My girl Layla gave birth to a 4oz. girl on July 14, Layla has the sweetest temperment. I was with her the whole time during the birth of Bella. Well about 1.5 hrs after the birth, my Layla turned into a minuture Cujo, she would not even let me touch her baby. Well on the 15th at 2:00 in the morning she decided she wanted her baby in the bed with me. Layla has always slept with me. This is the first time she allowed me to touch the baby since the birth. Well I put the baby back in the whelping box and sat with Layla petting her, she finally calmed down and when to sleep, needless to say she pouted at me, she wouldn't even look at me the next morning. She has tried every night around 2:00 to get the baby in my bed. She will now let me pet the baby, but I am the only one that's allowed to touch her baby. I haven't gotten a full night's sleep since the baby was borned. I am losing more sleep with this puppy then I did when my son was a newborn. I am also afraid of what could happen to our baby. I have a male yorkie at home and he seems alright with the puppy but I not taking any chances with him. If anyone could give some useful advise it would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't know what advice I can give you. Only that Doo Doo is still taking her pups out (6 pupps) and some nights she refuses to sleep in her crate. Hubby told me already when the pups are gone she's going back in her crate, no excuses. Thank goodness you only have one. Oh and she lets my daughter and I touch them. We got home right when she delivered #6 and my daughter was there with her, so maybe that's why she doesn't mind, she puts the pups in her bed.
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