Breeding for profit

[YorkieRose]

I have a gift...I can produce a quality Yorkie I am proud to show off...but it has drained every bit of energy from me at times, broken my heart, produced buckets of tears..so I advise anyone to do it to the best of their ability, ethcially, with pride, taking no short cuts, do what is best for the dog..the care and comfort of the dog always comes first...nothing is too good for a brood bitch.
When I see photo's and TV stories about puppymills, the faces of the bitches just about kill me...there has to be a special place in Hell for these heartless people...and all these dear dogs will surely have a peaceful after life...where ever the dogs go, I would like to go also...

[kathylynch]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

You showy Types?!! Yorkiekist was just wondering why abuse wasn't reported if witnessed since you didn't inform us as to how it was handled. I didn't find her post to be arrogant at all. If you are looking for an enemy around every corner than it's probably best that you don't enter the show ring. You can find great friendly, helpful people there and you can find people who are guarded and won't put up with any bull. I enjoy showing and have made great friends. I find it to be extremely educating and challenging. I am the type that if I'm going to do something, I reach for excellence. I used to be a national competitior and educator when I first started doing nails. It was a way to learn from the very best and perfect my skills while meeting the top nail techs in the industry and getting my name out there. I didn't want to make mediocre nails, I wanted to make works of art. I worked hard and placed within the top 25 nail techs in the country on the national circuit. Showing dogs is along the same vein for me, I can learn from the veterns of the yorkie world, have access to excellent stock, and get my name out there. I'm proud to be a showy type I guess because I have found them to be passionate, driven individuals who love these dogs and have commited their lives to this persuit. For me it's a good team to be on!

Very well said!!! I totally agree!
kathy

[matilda99]

There's a very nice article on this very subject in the August 2007 issue of Dog World Magazine by Carolyn Coile, PhD. As many of you know, Dr. Coile is a well published authority on dogs, herself being a breeder and handler. Her opinion is that responsible breeders should be selling their puppies for enough to make a profit, and that it should not be considered a negative thing for them to do so. BTW, she acknowledges in the article that breeders do not necessarily have to be exhibitors to fall into the "responsible" category. They just have to be responsible in their breeding practices. She closes the article with "There is a place for responsible breeders of good, healthy, well-socialized pets, and there's no reason that breeders who produce these dogs should not be fairly, and even profitably, compensated for providing them. In the long run, such breeders could be our best tool in the fight against puppy mills."

[blitz]

[quote=dudley1984;1887108][QUOTE=blitz;1885462]

Originally Posted by dudley1984

Hi Dudley. You don't play because the game is not always fair then? Geez, which sport is fair all the time? And as far as cheating... just look at the Patriots It happens in all sports.
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As an extremely honest and fair-minded person, some of this stuff is too hard for me to be around. Why would you fault me for that?

I like to consider myself an extremely honest and fair minded person also but not weak. I don't fault you. You're right. If you can't take the heat, you better stay home.

[Brooklynn]

[quote=blitz;1903251][quote=dudley1984;1887108]

Originally Posted by blitz

I like to consider myself an extremely honest and fair minded person also but not weak. I don't fault you. You're right. If you can't take the heat, you better stay home.

Looks to me Dudley has been banned

[bjh]

[quote=Brooklynn;1903273][quote=blitz;1903251]

Originally Posted by dudley1984

Looks to me Dudley has been banned

She got banned for a week. I really did not see anything she said that was that bad unless they deleted it. She just voiced her opinion like everyone else.

[kathylynch]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I have a gift...I can produce a quality Yorkie I am proud to show off...but it has drained every bit of energy from me at times, broken my heart, produced buckets of tears..so I advise anyone to do it to the best of their ability, ethcially, with pride, taking no short cuts, do what is best for the dog..the care and comfort of the dog always comes first...nothing is too good for a brood bitch.
When I see photo's and TV stories about puppymills, the faces of the bitches just about kill me...there has to be a special place in Hell for these heartless people...and all these dear dogs will surely have a peaceful after life...where ever the dogs go, I would like to go also...

Pat,
it breaks my heart too there are some many very heartless breeders out there breeding these bitches till they stand no more litter after litter.
THESE GIRLS ARE NOTHING BUT SLAVES to there owner!!! Have they no
campassion!!!So when the subject comes up breeding for profit it makes
me cringe as it makes me think of slavery. The people who do this need to go
and watch a female being spayed and look at her uterus(spelling?)it would
break anyones heart!!! my vet has told me so many storiess and how sad it is.
So lets get real about breeding for profit. I won't say no more
as I get my stomach tangle up in knots.Kathy

[Brooklynn]

[quote=bjh;1903334][quote=Brooklynn;1903273]

Originally Posted by blitz

She got banned for a week. I really did not see anything she said that was that bad unless they deleted it. She just voiced her opinion like everyone else.

I never saw anything bad either but I don't follow her posts much because she's so negative and never has anything good to say about us show breeders most of the time I stay away from the negative people or those that get too defensive or offended by good sound advice. I know she doesn't care for me so I ignore her mostly...
Donna

[BakersDozen]

[quote=bjh;1903334][quote=Brooklynn;1903273]

Originally Posted by blitz

She got banned for a week. I really did not see anything she said that was that bad unless they deleted it. She just voiced her opinion like everyone else.

I thought that at first too, and asked about it. They did delete it....it was a post in which she called someone a name.

[BakersDozen]

Originally Posted by matilda99

There's a very nice article on this very subject in the August 2007 issue of Dog World Magazine by Carolyn Coile, PhD. As many of you know, Dr. Coile is a well published authority on dogs, herself being a breeder and handler. Her opinion is that responsible breeders should be selling their puppies for enough to make a profit, and that it should not be considered a negative thing for them to do so. BTW, she acknowledges in the article that breeders do not necessarily have to be exhibitors to fall into the "responsible" category. They just have to be responsible in their breeding practices. She closes the article with "There is a place for responsible breeders of good, healthy, well-socialized pets, and there's no reason that breeders who produce these dogs should not be fairly, and even profitably, compensated for providing them. In the long run, such breeders could be our best tool in the fight against puppy mills."

Thanks for sharing this! It sound like a very reasonable view.

[Ladyhawk]

I don't read the replies of certain people either, especially if they get sarcastic. Everyone is going to see things a bit differently and that's okay but you can disagree respectfully. Sarcasm gets my grain up because it comes off as hateful to me and there's just no reason to be hateful. I usually drop out if it gets nasty but if I do post I try to be careful with my wording. Sometimes it's hard cause you just want to slap someone for coming off so hatefully. I try to remember that it's harder to judge someone's true intent when you can't see their expressions or body language. As far as a profit goes, I have a llitter due the end of the month that will hopefully make me a profit. It won't last long though as I will sink it back into showing. Showing is for business but it also for my personal enjoyment so I don't feel too bad. I get to go out to dinner with my show friends so I get benefit from it all.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

I don't read the replies of certain people either, especially if they get sarcastic. Everyone is going to see things a bit differently and that's okay but you can disagree respectfully. Sarcasm gets my grain up because it comes off as hateful to me and there's just no reason to be hateful. I usually drop out if it gets nasty but if I do post I try to be careful with my wording. Sometimes it's hard cause you just want to slap someone for coming off so hatefully. I try to remember that it's harder to judge someone's true intent when you can't see their expressions or body language. As far as a profit goes, I have a llitter due the end of the month that will hopefully make me a profit. It won't last long though as I will sink it back into showing. Showing is for business but it also for my personal enjoyment so I don't feel too bad. I get to go out to dinner with my show friends so I get benefit from it all.

Oh I love to go to the shows just to be with the friends I've made!! We have so much fun after the competition is done!

I try to respond with tactfullness but sometimes I know some take it as rude but I can't really help how they interput my typing unfortunately. There are a couple that I try and ignore because they have nothing positive to say. I may not agree with a lot of people but I would never personally attack someone just because they disagree with how I do things or my opinions. I do not attack anyone in person nor on a forum it's not my style

[NanaDtreasures]

[quote=bjh;1903334][quote=Brooklynn;1903273]

Originally Posted by blitz

She got banned for a week. I really did not see anything she said that was that bad unless they deleted it. She just voiced her opinion like everyone else.

I seen last week a member I liked left us
She always tried her best to be nice to everyone.
I dont even know her real name
Isnt that crazy how you can like someone...
And not even know there name sometimes on a forum?
It was hha...if Im not mistaken. and it said she was no longer a member.
So I'm taking it she quit.Not banned.
But if anyone still talks with her on here, please tell her for me
That she is missed

[Brooklynn]

[quote=NanaDtreasures;1903801][quote=bjh;1903334]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I seen last week a member I liked left us
She always tried her best to be nice to everyone.
I dont even know her real name
Isnt that crazy how you can like someone...
And not even know there name sometimes on a forum?
It was hha...if Im not mistaken. and it said she was no longer a member.
So I'm taking it she quit.Not banned.
But if anyone still talks with her on here, please tell her for me
That she is missed

I believe the member banned we are talking about is Dudley1984 and she was banned. I don't know anything about hha

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I believe the member banned we are talking about is Dudley1984 and she was banned. I don't know anything about hha

Dudley probably got suspended or banned (haven't looked to see which one) for telling everyone who had a differing opinion to "get a life". Hha left YT on her own, and her name is Sherrie.